MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

So now we have 12 Town PR claims, with only 10 Town PRs.

So two people in that list of 12 are lying.

[bozotheclown]

So now we have 12 Town PR claims, with only 10 Town PRs.

So two people in that list of 12 are lying.

I only count 11.

[Jamiet99uk]

So now we have 12 Town PR claims, with only 10 Town PRs.

So two people in that list of 12 are lying.

I only count 11.

Claimed PR:

xorx (Captain), teacon7, dargorygel, Tom Bombadil, rdrivera, damo666, worcej, Jamiet, Goldfinger, KalelChase, BunnyGo

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh sorry yes 11

[bozotheclown]

Not claimed yet:
Flavius
ND
peterlund
Superstition
Vecna

##VOTE Flavius

[bozotheclown]

Now 11 players are voting for players who have claimed to be a town PR, and therefore have only a 1/11 chance of being scum.

[BunnyGo]

Now 11 players are voting for players who have claimed to be a town PR, and therefore have only a 1/11 chance of being scum.

Odds xorxes is full of it are higher than other PR. That IS Monty hall.

[xorxes]

Claimed PR
xorx (Captain)
teac
darg
Tom Bombadil
rdrivera
damo
worcej
Jamiet
Goldfinger
KalelChase
BunnyGo

Claimed VT
chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek

Not claimed
Flavius
ND
peterlund
Superstition
Vecna (to be subbed)

Excellent. So we know (at least) one PR claimant is lying (Kalel or Bunny are my top candidates). We can sort them out later.

If any of Flav/ND/peterlund/Superstition wants to claim PR they should do it now. Otherwise they are letting scum get away with a fake PR claim for no reason.

If they don't claim PR, we can assume they are claiming VT (which is kind of interesting, given that peterlund implied he was a PR).

##VOTE peterlund then.

[rdrivera2005]

With 11 PR claims we will need to make some calculations to decide the best point to make a full massclaim, but I guess it will depend on lynches/NKs.

[bozotheclown]

Now 11 players are voting for players who have claimed to be a town PR, and therefore have only a 1/11 chance of being scum.

Odds xorxes is full of it are higher than other PR. That IS Monty hall.

We could narrow down the scum to 2 players if we did a full mass claim, but I do not think we should do that until the last 5 have made claims.

[damo666]

##vote Flav

Voting xorxes is plain daft

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote peterlund

[xorxes]

Now 11 players are voting for players who have claimed to be a town PR, and therefore have only a 1/11 chance of being scum.

Odds xorxes is full of it are higher than other PR. That IS Monty hall.

Only if the GM verifies all the claimants.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE peterlund

[BunnyGo]

Now 11 players are voting for players who have claimed to be a town PR, and therefore have only a 1/11 chance of being scum.

Odds xorxes is full of it are higher than other PR. That IS Monty hall.

Only if the GM verifies all the claimants.

True. Odds Xorxes reveals of gets lynched today are near 100%

[Jamiet99uk]

Xorxes remains in control of my vote.
I have stated the terms.

[Chaqa]

So, to address the three votes on the unccd Captain:

peterlund: I think he may very well be town PR. He didn't claim it but he implied it. Ii is believable that he doesn't understand why he should claim. It is believable that he feels it is superimportant to force me to reveal right now. I'm townleaning him for now.

BunnyGo: The 10% number he pulled out of his rear orifice is concerning, given his purported love of probabilities. But let's take it at face value: he wants to lynch someone that in his estimation has a 10% chance of being scum. A random lynch would have 25% chance of hitting scum. So basically he is voting for one of his top townreads, since I doubt he would have a 90% confidence in many others like he claims to have in me for being town. Having said all that, Bunny is not what I consider one of the "rational" players, he often does things that make no sense to me. So only because of that my scumlean on him is weak rather than strong at this point.

ND: I consider ND a very good player behind the facade of idiocy that he enjoys putting up. The first explanation I came up with when he first voted for me was that he was doing some kind of reaction test to see who would bite. Unless he explains it that way, and gives his conclusions from the experiment, I strongly recommend that the Vig shoot him.

I think it’s quite telling that the Reaper violation came after ND posted a mean and swear-filled message. I think it’s quite possible I was right about the Reaper rule and him being RP.

I second the vigilante shooting him.

[BunnyGo]

Odds xorxes is full of it are higher than other PR. That IS Monty hall.

Only if the GM verifies all the claimants.

True. Odds Xorxes reveals of gets lynched today are near 100%

Agreed with Jamie. Xorxes controls my vote. And as lynching the captain is anti-town: I sure hope he reveals sooner rather than later if he can. I’m off to go sledding! Hope I’m back by EOD.

[Chaqa]

So there are 10 town PR if the Twins count as PRs, and 5 VTs including the backups.

So far 8 PR claims and 4 VT claims. This will soon reach the point where it would become useful. Now that we're this far, I urge others to claim.

Agreed. We’ve reached critical mass - any holdouts now are clearly anti-town.

@xorx - you should reveal. It’s time.

[Chaqa]

@Xorxes

Dude, you have the only role in the game that can be verified by the GM and you want people to claim their roles without doing it yourself (you can verify)

Fuck that. You need to be voted by everyone until you verify. At which point I'll claim.

Again, I recommend to EVERYONE not to go along with Xorxes until he verifies his role.

And, yeah if the VIG shoots me so be it. You will be lynched most likely in that event. So, all that forces is a zero sum.

What are you implying here?

##Vote ND