MINI MAFIA I - GAME THREAD

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Re: MINI MAFIA I - GAME THREAD

#661 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:41 pm

GM NOTE

Foxcastle will be taking the lead for processing EoN so do make sure you have sent any night actions or endvotes to him and not just me.

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#662 Post by thamrick » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:05 pm

Some thoughts after President Eden reread:

-From the first few pages and most of D1, I could definitely see the brainbomb/PE interaction as m/m power-wolfing town. BB's Durga vote never made sense to me with what he was saying about her.

-rdrivera also looks super scummy EoD1 with his Durga interactions. He calls her out for "struggling to find a counterwagon to herself" when she was tied with ghug and would have easily been able to vote him to save herself. The Durga vote on rdr was pure town play. I don't know what point rdr was trying to make, especially since he had no need to be defensive since Durga's vote was the only one on him at the time.
President Eden wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:30 pm
I got myself roped into working all night so I might miss EOD.

These wagons are ok as long as Durga gets a decisive 4th vote somewhere. Durga delenda est
I won’t be mad if bozo goes but Durga is the one I got a concrete scum read on so let’s do that one please.
ghug is the worst wagon of the 3. Can someone on that please go to Durga thx
-it's possible ghug is scum with PE, but this next quote makes me think not:
President Eden wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:48 am
Things to look at:

- Ezio's comments on ghug. Ezio consistently voted ghug throughout the decisive part of the day. Early thought is that ghug and Ezio are probably opposite alignment (if ghug is scum then Ezio's consistent vote for him looks good; if ghug is town then Ezio suffers from the "static" corollary mentioned earlier). Subject to change based on what I actually find Ezio saying.
I don't think PE would set up a m/t link between Ezio-ghug if one of them was his scum partner. An Ezio mislynch would make ghug look bad. It looks to me more like PE was trying to set up a ghug mislynch then be able to shade Ezio as scum due to it.

-I didn't have time to fully reread D2 and I have to leave now, but xorxes coming in and immediately homing in on PE is a little suspicious. That plus BB's interactions with PE D1 and general weirdness makes xorxes a pretty decent scum candidate.

-I find one main thing suspicious about PE's EoD2. His stubbornness to move off of Ezio, especially when he was one of the leading wagons. That tells me he was protecting his scummate. He could have voted xorxes to put him in the lead. He could have joined me (his top TR) on rdrivera after I told him to move there. Neither move makes sense to me.

town to scum:
Ezio
bozo
ghug
xorxes
rdrivera

I basically feel like xorxes and rdr have scum equilibrium at this point fwiw and am giving xorxes a little more m.o.e. for only joining so recently.

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#663 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:57 pm

Thamrick and Ezio look like town after D2, leaving xorxes, ghug, and rdrivera.

brainbomb’s D1 EOD switch from ghug no longer appears to have any meaning, and xorxes was key to lynching President Eden. However, President Eden started pushing Ezio as an alternative to brainbomb before brainbomb was replaced and did not switch to xorxes at D2 EOD when it could have prevented his lynch. Also, President Eden and brainbomb voting for each other at the beginning of D1 now looks suspicious.

I do not understand why rdrivera would scum read Ezio for his ideas on the RB. The doc using the RB on herself or the mafia using the NK and RB on the same player seem like reasonable possibilities to consider.

I find it odd the mafia would RB and not NK ghug, especially if they thought he was the cop. Ghug suggested he might have been RBed by brainbomb because brainbomb suspected he was the cop, but if that was true then it would have made more sense to NK ghug, making ghug’s suggestion look suspicious.

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#664 Post by xorxes » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:00 pm

Vote rdrivera next. I don't think anyone else makes much sense. ghug and bozo are a far second choice.

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#665 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:00 pm

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NIGHT HAS ENDED - PLEASE HOLD

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#666 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:02 pm

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The townfish had been uneasy, but the arrival of a bona fide super-sidekick the night before helped them all sleep better. They hurried out first thing to hear his plan to keep the town safe today. Unfortunately, he was going a little senile and had forgotten to keep himself safe.

XORXES has died. He was BARNACLE BOY, the Vanilla Townfish.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

​ DAY 3 has begun. You have 48 hours.

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#667 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:38 pm

That fearkill tho

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#668 Post by thamrick » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:54 pm

Lol thanks for making the POE easier scum

##Vote rdrivera

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#669 Post by Ezio » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:53 am

I mean... Ok. ##vote Rd.

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#670 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:58 am

You don't want to lynch me anymore, Ezio?

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#671 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:13 am

Well, I am torn now. On one side I think I made some sense as a lynch today and I honestly don´t think I am a good candidate to be alive at lylo. On the other side I don´t think wasting our last myslynch on me is a good thing as we will be automatically on lylo.
And I confess I don´t have a clue on who the last scum is. I have a town read on Ezio at this point and really think any of Ghug, Bozo and Tham could be the scum.
So, I will try to do a full re-read tomorrow and see if I can find something that give me some decent reasoning to vote someone.
I strongly suggest you do the same instead of only jumping on me. Even if I end being lynched, it will be important if you can gather some info out of it.

And if someone want me to answer something, I will be around, don´t be shy.

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#672 Post by Ezio » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:15 am

Nah ghug. I trust xorxes reads and my gut right now.

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#673 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:24 am

The NK of xorxes is surprising, it makes me want to look carefully at thamrick and Ezio again. Maybe one of them is doing a very good job of looking like town.

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#674 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:31 am

What are the chances PE bussed Ezio to get the one that survived the lynch cleared till the end?

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#675 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:34 am

What would you do if everyone were saying "you or xorxes" with two lynches left?

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#676 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:08 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:34 am
What would you do if everyone were saying "you or xorxes" with two lynches left?
This question is for me? I was pretty sure Brain/Xorxes were town, I told this many times. Like I said, lynching me today is not a big deal, but doing this without any real discussion is pretty bad.

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#677 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:03 pm

It's more for anyone but you. I'm asking how people would act as scum in that situation.

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#678 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:34 pm

VOTE COUNT 3.0

Rdrivera (2) - Thamrick, Ezio
Ezio (1) - Ghug

You have one day, five hours, and 25 minutes left in Day 3.

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#679 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:52 pm

Rereading Eden now. Some notes:

He very willingly jumped on Ezio when brain claimed. He knew with certainty with brain's claim was false. He also passively encouraged a counterclaim ("That seems like such a terrible play from mafia side though. Cop just cc's and that whole plan is bigly deep-sixed and bb is dead to rights.").

His ISO reread of Pouncy selected posts that pointed at rd and Bozo, which he used to push his Bozo vote. It wasn't necessary to include all the rd posts to make that point, and he didn't give any analysis on what it meant for rd until pressed on it.

He got upset at me for asking for a counterwagon on one of him/Bozo/rd, and upset at Ezio for asking me to push rd. This led to an Ezio vote (making it 3-2-1 brain-Ezio-ghug). He and Ezio then argue a bunch.

"Oh. Xorxes believes Ghug's claim. Now I am wrong. [] Vote PE." -Ezio (this brings it to a three way tie at 2 with thamrick alone on rd. Of note is that Eden and rd are voting Ezio together.)

"Anyone on anybody for not-scumread reasons gets the rope tomorrow" -Eden
Who is he targeting with this post?

Thamrick, I, and rd (in that order) jump on Eden in very quick succession to break the tie. Eden says he's been betrayed by his townreads. He's certain to die, so there's heavy WIFOM involved.


Would Eden sit on a wagon with just his teammate? Maybe if he felt good about the brain mislynch, but that would be a good reason to bus too. I think it's one of the two of them.

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#680 Post by thamrick » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:35 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:52 pm
Rereading Eden now. Some notes:

He very willingly jumped on Ezio when brain claimed. He knew with certainty with brain's claim was false. He also passively encouraged a counterclaim ("That seems like such a terrible play from mafia side though. Cop just cc's and that whole plan is bigly deep-sixed and bb is dead to rights.").

His ISO reread of Pouncy selected posts that pointed at rd and Bozo, which he used to push his Bozo vote. It wasn't necessary to include all the rd posts to make that point, and he didn't give any analysis on what it meant for rd until pressed on it.

He got upset at me for asking for a counterwagon on one of him/Bozo/rd, and upset at Ezio for asking me to push rd. This led to an Ezio vote (making it 3-2-1 brain-Ezio-ghug). He and Ezio then argue a bunch.

"Oh. Xorxes believes Ghug's claim. Now I am wrong. [] Vote PE." -Ezio (this brings it to a three way tie at 2 with thamrick alone on rd. Of note is that Eden and rd are voting Ezio together.)

"Anyone on anybody for not-scumread reasons gets the rope tomorrow" -Eden
Who is he targeting with this post?

Thamrick, I, and rd (in that order) jump on Eden in very quick succession to break the tie. Eden says he's been betrayed by his townreads. He's certain to die, so there's heavy WIFOM involved.


Would Eden sit on a wagon with just his teammate? Maybe if he felt good about the brain mislynch, but that would be a good reason to bus too. I think it's one of the two of them.
One of the two of whom?

In regards to your previous question, if I was rdr and everyone was saying xorxes or I was scum, I don't know if I would have killed xorxes. It's a bold play. On the one hand, xorxes did just come in cold and down PE earning a lot of towncred, listing rdr as next likely. On the other, xorxes had the cloud of BB's erratic actions hanging over him and would definitely be a viable lynch candidate.

It could be someone other than rdr is scum and is setting up an easy mislynch. But it still doesn't make a lot of sense in that regard since xorxes/rdr were the two leading lynch candidates, scum being not one of them would have a clear path to lylo and a possible win if they could get both lynched.

I was sure one of Ezio or myself would die since we're the most townread.

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