MINI MAFIA I - GAME THREAD

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Re: MINI MAFIA I - GAME THREAD

#641 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:38 pm

Cop should claim SoD4 if they're still alive and we lynch wrong tomorrow. There's no point in getting us a clear D3 since they'll just die. Whether mafia CCs or not, that'd give us a clear at LYLO.

If someone claims cop to avoid the lynch tomorrow, cop should immediately CC if they can, and if not, we don't lynch them. Cop CCs at EoN, putting us in the same position.

If you're town, don't fakeclaim cop under any circumstances. We have a mislynch. It's better to just die.

Of course the cop will probably die tonight instead because that's how these things go.

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#642 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:41 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:34 pm
If the cop claims D3 it will give us a clear.
Yes, we will have one less to consider in the suspects pool. We are now at 5x1 and tomorrow it will be 4x1, having one confirmed town is good but he should now try to lead the lynch as we will need as much info as we can get if we are heading to lylo (of course we can lynch the scum tomorrow, but I thinking on the worst case).

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#643 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:43 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:38 pm
Cop should claim SoD4 if they're still alive and we lynch wrong tomorrow. There's no point in getting us a clear D3 since they'll just die. Whether mafia CCs or not, that'd give us a clear at LYLO.

If someone claims cop to avoid the lynch tomorrow, cop should immediately CC if they can, and if not, we don't lynch them. Cop CCs at EoN, putting us in the same position.

If you're town, don't fakeclaim cop under any circumstances. We have a mislynch. It's better to just die.

Of course the cop will probably die tonight instead because that's how these things go.
I think claiming tomorrow could be better as it's unlikely the cop will survive two nights, but it's worth considering.

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#644 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:44 pm

There is absolutely no reason for the cop to claim tomorrow unless they are doing it to avoid lynch.

Xorxes, Ezio, back me up on simple process facts thanks.

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#645 Post by thamrick » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:47 pm

I know I have reading comprehension issues, but I agree with ghug

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#646 Post by xorxes » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:49 pm

Yes, that's right. If anyone counterclaims, we lynch both, so there's no way scum can claim Cop. So Cop has to claim D3 while we still have a mislynch available and so scum can't claim it. But not before D3 or they will be the NK.

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#647 Post by xorxes » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:55 pm

ghug is right, they should claim at the very end of N4. If there are two claims, then the third one not claiming is a clear, if there is only one claim, then they are the clear. Either way we have one clear at LYLO, assuming the Cop survives N3 and N4.

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#648 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:57 pm

It's fine if scum claims cop, as we're never better than a 50/50 anyway. Claiming cop tomorrow means zero chance of a lylo with a clear, leaving us with the 33% chance we'd get if the cop dies rather than the 50% chance we'd get with a D4 claim (all assuming we mislynch tomorrow).

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#649 Post by xorxes » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:00 am

*end of N3

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#650 Post by xorxes » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:04 am

End of N3 is better than start of D4 because that way scum doesn't get to choose who the clear is.

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#651 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:05 am

EoN3 is dependent on everyone being online, but if it's possible, I agree.

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#652 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:08 am

It also makes it less likely they'll claim cop at all, since there's a risk of NKing the cop.

Which actually means that they might hold their kill N3 to out the cop claim and force a 1/3 situation, which is bad, so we should probably claim SoD4.

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#653 Post by xorxes » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:09 am

True

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#654 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:50 am

ghug wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:08 am
It also makes it less likely they'll claim cop at all, since there's a risk of NKing the cop.

Which actually means that they might hold their kill N3 to out the cop claim and force a 1/3 situation, which is bad, so we should probably claim SoD4.
That's a thing I haven't considered, scum can choose to not NK to change lylo to Mylo. Then claiming at start of D4 makes more sense as town can also choose to not lynch. What happens on this case? Scum is forced to NK?

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#655 Post by xorxes » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:58 am

Rereading. First post from PE:
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:07 pm
Roses are red
chickens are sO Plucky
Seven's the number
That I think is lucky

##VOTE: brainbomb
Second line's wrong case letters are cOP

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#656 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:12 am

Lol classy PE.

Generally the rule with no kills is that whichever team does the no kill first has to do it eventually or everyone loses.

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#657 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:59 pm

Zzzzzzzz

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#658 Post by Ezio » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:57 pm

Meh it's night. Not much reason to post before day flips. Any chance we can hammer the night phase?

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#659 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:16 pm

GM NOTE

Endhammering the night phase is permitted if *all* players who are still alive wish to do this.

End votes at night should be PMed to *both* GMs rather than posted in the thread.

Otherwise, 3 hours and 44 minutes remain in Night 2.

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#660 Post by peterlund » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:21 pm

1) I added Foxcastle as co-GM in this game. GM commands from Fox should now be accepted by the bot.

2) Fixed a second bug due to the "new forum" minute time stamps. The order of votes in the Vote/Wagon count is now fixed in the case when votes are given the same minute. D2 thamrick was not vote 3 on President Eden as he should have been (now he is)

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