MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

And if the mafia couldve discovered Darg's identity, it also doesnt reflect very good on Bozo with his explanations for all his failing scans (well save for the one on Ezio).

[ND]

##GM NOTES

@Bozo: No, it would be intentionally vague in that case.
@Vecna: The Mafia Secretary Power or Intelligence Box would not have been able to target Dargorygel due to circumstances.

[bozotheclown]

Since there never was an infection N1, the alien couldve learned what role Dargo was if he started with the intelligence box.

Very tinfoil-hat type of stuff to have that many coincidences, but its possible.

If only MF wouldve shared with us who he had given the vest to. Which sort of makes me feel like he actually would have if it was given to EMC to save him. Since it would mean he wouldve known that EMC was indeed protected by that item, which wouldve been quite the important detail to confirm.

MoscowFleet did not specify that the item he gave out was a vest, but I agree MoscowFleet would likely have told us if he gave a vest to emc. Besides that, it seems highly unlikely he would give a vest to emc N1.

[bozotheclown]

And if the mafia couldve discovered Darg's identity, it also doesnt reflect very good on Bozo with his explanations for all his failing scans (well save for the one on Ezio).

Intelligence Box/Secretary Power is last on the order list, so dargorygel was killed N1 before anyone could detect his role.

[Vecna]

##vote EMC

[Vaporwave]

If Ezio is not the alien he is a town clear because I scanned him N3 and he is confirmed as not mafia. If we go with Ezio's plan to confirm the alien, the one that is not the alien will be town clear.

good enough for me to

##UNVOTE

hoping emc scan him for alien DNA so that we won't have to lynch him,

#team Ezio, let's keep him alive

Are you OK with a RagingIke lynch?

si senor

##VOTE Ike

[bozotheclown]

##vote EMC

Why are you voting emc? Wouldn't you rather test for the alien today with Ezio's plan? What do you think of lynching RagingIke?

[Vecna]

And if the mafia couldve discovered Darg's identity, it also doesnt reflect very good on Bozo with his explanations for all his failing scans (well save for the one on Ezio).

Intelligence Box/Secretary Power is last on the order list, so dargorygel was killed N1 before anyone could detect his role.

Yeah, its good to know that truely noone had any mechanical methods of discovering Darg's identity.

The way EMC was feeling out the scans, trying to keep it vague how he acquired them, constantly stating he might or might not be hardclaiming.

He probably was just feeling out if someone would CC him.

Were still missing the heat gun item though. If the alien has that he can simply use it on Ike tonight (if his N3 target also died?)

[Vecna]

##vote EMC

Why are you voting emc? Wouldn't you rather test for the alien today with Ezio's plan? What do you think of lynching RagingIke?

I want to get the alien today or tomorrow. But more importantly I want to get EMC in here and talking.

And I liked Rdrivera's logic - I really dont see why Ike wouldve semi-cleared me the way he did if he was scum.

[Vecna]

Besides, Ezio is putting in so much effort to get us to go for his plan.

He'd only do that if he is town, OR if he is the alien and his plan is not going to work out for us regardless.

Why would alien Ezio go all out for a plan if it just ends up revealing him anyway? Only if he has a contingency.

[Vecna]

Besides, the alien could have infected some of the PR's by now, so we really cannot even count on the doctor or the driver to be in control of their powers.

The alien has to die. Today.

EMC and Ezio can do their thing to convince us who it has to be. So far I feel Ezio is winning.

[bozotheclown]

but the current ways of survival I had were:
moscow gave me vest
I had kit, and used it on myself
someone else had kit, and used it on me
i just claimed nk since I was bored XD

pity moscow is dead

Here emc is leaving open the option he fake claimed being saved N2. Besides being an odd thing to fake claim in general, it is a particularly bad thing to fake claim when there is an alien who survives NKs and you are the Alien Cop claiming knowledge of the N2 alien infection.

On the other hand, emc would have had to be very lucky to fake claim dargorygel's role, and the lack of an assassin shot makes it seem likely dargorygel was the assassin.

This uncertainty is why I think it is worth testing for the alien today.

[bozotheclown]

And if the mafia couldve discovered Darg's identity, it also doesnt reflect very good on Bozo with his explanations for all his failing scans (well save for the one on Ezio).

Intelligence Box/Secretary Power is last on the order list, so dargorygel was killed N1 before anyone could detect his role.

Yeah, its good to know that truely noone had any mechanical methods of discovering Darg's identity.

The way EMC was feeling out the scans, trying to keep it vague how he acquired them, constantly stating he might or might not be hardclaiming.

He probably was just feeling out if someone would CC him.

Were still missing the heat gun item though. If the alien has that he can simply use it on Ike tonight (if his N3 target also died?)

We know Ezio does not have the Alien Heat Gun because he had the Alien Ray Gun, so if RagingIke's vote disappears, emc is the alien.

[Vecna]

Ok fuck it, time to make a list with all item shit so I stop mixing stuff up

[bozotheclown]

##vote EMC

Why are you voting emc? Wouldn't you rather test for the alien today with Ezio's plan? What do you think of lynching RagingIke?

I want to get the alien today or tomorrow. But more importantly I want to get EMC in here and talking.

And I liked Rdrivera's logic - I really dont see why Ike wouldve semi-cleared me the way he did if he was scum.

If the mafia chose to RB you and found the RB was driven back to scum RagingIke, I think he would claim it to try to clear himself.

[bozotheclown]

Besides, Ezio is putting in so much effort to get us to go for his plan.

He'd only do that if he is town, OR if he is the alien and his plan is not going to work out for us regardless.

Why would alien Ezio go all out for a plan if it just ends up revealing him anyway? Only if he has a contingency.

If Ezio is the alien, his plan would have led to him going into D6 controlling 4 votes with 10 players left. He could then have tried to team up with the mafia. That is why I think lynching RagingIke is necessary if we use Ezio's idea to test for the alien today.

[Vecna]

2. Nephthys - Triage kit (used)
5. Jamiet99uk - Gov security check
6. e.m.c^42 - ?
8. bozotheclown - ?
11. Percy Williams - Phone holder
13. Vaporwave - Alien manipulation Ray (used)
14. thamrick - ?
15. Vecna - Phone holder
17. LordQuas - ?
18. Ike - ?
19. Ezio - Alien ray gun (used)

Dead:
10. MoscowFleet - Alien Synthesizer (used for a vest?)
16. bo_sox / Yav - Reverse Alien DNA
1. Damo666 - ?
12. Squigs44 - Potential phone holder
4. xorxes - Potential phone holder
3. dargorygel - Potential phone holder
9. worcej - ?

Taking a break:
7. rdrivera2005 - ?

Items missing:
1x satelite phone
Alien heat gun
Holy herb
Intelligence box

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Someone stated before that MF claimed he had given someone a vest, but he never actually said that. weird

Also, I -think- Xorxes was most likely to be the one with the 3rd phone. He never learned anyone's identity from the QT before he died if thats the case. He was very cautiously talking N1 but then stopped talking. Technically I guess its possible that theres still a person hiding in the QT.

[bozotheclown]

Besides, the alien could have infected some of the PR's by now, so we really cannot even count on the doctor or the driver to be in control of their powers.

The alien has to die. Today.

EMC and Ezio can do their thing to convince us who it has to be. So far I feel Ezio is winning.

The alien does not gain access to an infected players night action until the third day, so the only player the alien could control N5 is RagingIke, and that won't be a problem if we lynch RagingIke. Therefore, it is not essential the alien die today, so I think we should take the opportunity to identify the alien today so we do not mislynch between Ezio and emc. The worse thing we could do is lynch a potential town clear.

[Vecna]

Why are you voting emc? Wouldn't you rather test for the alien today with Ezio's plan? What do you think of lynching RagingIke?

I want to get the alien today or tomorrow. But more importantly I want to get EMC in here and talking.

And I liked Rdrivera's logic - I really dont see why Ike wouldve semi-cleared me the way he did if he was scum.

If the mafia chose to RB you and found the RB was driven back to scum RagingIke, I think he would claim it to try to clear himself.

Possible, but pretty damn stupid with so many targets theyre forced to night kill already

[Vecna]

Dont get me wrong, I see the merit of the plan. Im just not sure if it outweighs everything that can go wrong with it tomorrow.