Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[LordQuas]

quas you said you were going to wake up and either vote flash or darg probably darg. I don't remember you doing so before tho

oh

I guess I voted dar at the start of the day but yeah

[LordQuas]

you two seriously sound like two town fighting

I'm aware

[CrimsonFox]

then you got lost in the battle of trolls

[LordQuas]

quas you said you were going to wake up and either vote flash or darg probably darg. I don't remember you doing so before tho

oh

I guess I voted dar at the start of the day but yeah

wait I'm reading that vote counter in reverse, I guess I didn't vote him huh

[LordQuas]

bozo I see you, get on darg with us

[LordQuas]

.. looking at bozo's iso he's straight up lynching foxc because of the possibility that he's a wolf who chose a fake claim

[bozotheclown]

Since we have an actual hard-claim we could be discussing:

@Everyone: Do you believe CrimsonFox's claim that he is the other Mason?

Yes, why would he fake claim a role that he know would be counterclaimed?

[bozotheclown]

@Darg: I was under the gun and I guess my brain just defaulted to it's last setting, which was Durga's no reveal game. I didn't even think about it, I just thought "I need to get this out in case town needs it." Obviously, if I'd been thinking about without the pressure, I would have realized that town would have gotten the information and I wouldn't have claimed.

Also, ##VOTE JAMIET

Case on me, please?

You're the Serial Killer.

Lynching the SK should not be our priority right now.

[brainbomb]

Durga has replaced Garden Gnome

[bozotheclown]

I walked backed the idea of Gnome, I had forgotten Ike took the shot.

But in what world is trying to determine who the scumteam is based of the actions of the dead scum useless? I would hazard to guess one of the scum was activated by Squigs.

Based on BB's count that is as follows:

Uni Backup can be Quas, Jamie, or damo (Crimson tossed out due to softclear)
Cond. Commute can be as above plus Neph and bozo (Gnome tossed due to gunshot)

I think Squigs was just trying to cause confusion. Chances are neither of these roles belong to scum.

[bozotheclown]

@Netphys:

Really serious important question about your plan to have the SK target Foxcastle:

What makes you think the SK will do what you want them to do?
Why would it be in the SK's interest to do this?

Slowly catching up so will respond to things as I come across them

- The SK loses if town lose
- Town are very close to losing
- SK therefore (for now) wants to help town
- This either gets scum or confirms doctor. We then are able to telegraph the doc saves or else we just lynch Fox as he would be scum
- This also prevents a likely dead town (7/4 odds) and so gives us more of a chance

Confirming the doctor does not help us when the doctor can be scum. I think it is just as likely Foxcastle is scum who claimed his real role as it is he claimed a fake role.

[bozotheclown]

ND parked a vote on squigs for no reason which makes me think he was trying to distance

wolves (especially ones that aren't as experienced and worry more about appearing too partnered with their teammates) very commonly place an early vote on their teammates as it's a safe spot to them, just something I've noticed (actually I stole this from someone else, maybe even bb?) but it rings true a lot of the time

has anyone analyzed spew from squigs yet?

I have a feeling the SK is looking for scum in the lurkers, and killed DrCJG and DoubtingThomas. Maybe the SK will take care of ND/flash next.

[bozotheclown]

bozo I see you, get on darg with us

I think some good points have been made why dargorygel is a good scum candidate, but I still think Foxcastle is our best bet as scum.

[LordQuas]

I'm gonig to try to go to sleep

I'm so unbelievably sick rn, coughing up literal blood earlier (well that was only cause the nosebleed drained down my throat but it doesn't sound as cool that way)

still, I'll try to be around as much as I can but if I slip into a coma, that's where I went

[bozotheclown]

.. looking at bozo's iso he's straight up lynching foxc because of the possibility that he's a wolf who chose a fake claim

That is not the only reason I suspect Foxcastle, and I did not even consider the possibility he was fake claiming until we found out that the scum have a list of inactive roles to fake claim. I found it suspicious that Foxcastle presented his claim the way he did, as if he was resigned to getting lynched and telling us his role for future reference. If he was town trying to save himself, I would expect him to say he was the town doctor and we should not lynch him because we would be killing our doctor. Also, as has been pointed out, if he was lynched, we would find out his role, so there was no reason to tell us for future reference. I also found it suspicious that Squigs switched his vote from Foxcastle to ghug at the last minute, because it unnecessarily put Squigs on a wagon that was about to flip town. I also did not like Foxcastle's argument why DemonRHK should not have challenged Squigs and let Squigs survive another day. Foxcastle even said DemonRHK would have been better off challenging him since DemonRHK would have likely won the challenge against him. If Foxcastle is town, that means he would be saying it would be better to have a town killed D2 over Squigs.

[Nephthys]

His posts are towny

But he did want to kill me and ghug

I now realize that I was thinking of damo not demon as an early game auspicion

To be fair, I wanted to kill you and Ghug and I'm 90% sure I've been TC by everyone

[Nephthys]

I am happy with a darg lynch

##vote darg

[Nephthys]

@bozo, have you EVER played a role madness game before?

[brainbomb]

VOTE TALLY 3.5

Foxcastle (4) flash2015 dargorygel bozotheclown Jamiet99uk
dargorygel (4) worcej CrimsonFox LordQuas Nephthys
bozotheclown (1) damo666
Jamiet99uk (1) Foxcastle
LordQuas (1) DemonRHK

End-votes (0/7)

Non-votes
Durga

No one is scheduled to die
13 hours remain

[bozotheclown]

@bozo, have you EVER played a role madness game before?

I do not believe so, what exactly is the definition of "role madness"? I played a game where everyone started with an item, which was similar since most of the items were NAI.