Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

Implying brain wasn't RBd. Doh!

If he was, then either Ghug or myself would be lying about being Roleblocked.

Do you assume that is what is happening, Damo?

Both of us, in fact.

Yes, yes, that has been covered.

Have you finished folding and putting away Balki's laundry?

[ghug]

If he was, then either Ghug or myself would be lying about being Roleblocked.

Do you assume that is what is happening, Damo?

Both of us, in fact.

Yes, yes, that has been covered.

Have you finished folding and putting away Balki's laundry?

He made me restart because the creases weren't neat enough for his liking.

[damo666]

Implying brain wasn't RBd. Doh!

If he was, then either Ghug or myself would be lying about being Roleblocked.

Do you assume that is what is happening, Damo?

Both of us, in fact.

I very much doubt you are both lying.

If brain did RB you I think Jamie is probably town.

[damo666]

Pirate? See, it's a struggle to exclude HamB

Then maybe something is faulty with your deductions. Flip it around and since I am town, what viable triple does that leave you with?

Sparta Vecna Jamie ??

[kingofthepirates]

Zoinks, things have happened. Sorry for the lack of posting, I’ve been grinding aps and school . I’ve been relatively keeping up with everything, please check my reasoning: lord of words is being voted for lack of participation mainly? I’m not quite sure I totally understand the reasoning for the spartaculous wagon. Would someone please fill me in? On the ride home I’ll also throw out my 2 cents on discussions anyone invites me into or answer a few questions ppl have for me.

Top 4 town reads…go!

Top scum read…go!

##vote kingof

In the words of Phoenix Wright: HOLD IT!
Don’t jump the gun voting for me.
Townreads:
Bona, Jamie, bozo, idk last slot, those are my 3 more or less clear reads. Maybe ghug? Rivera also looks nice, but not much d2 substance.

Scum read:
Dunno. I don’t like damos shot, but I don’t think it necessarily is scummy, especially with the claim. Though it’s very possible that damo is self aware enough that if they were scum, they could make the claim and go for town cred, knowing we wouldn’t go for the kill. Spartaculous I also don’t like too much. So between those two probably.

[sweetandcool]

Top 4 town reads…go!

Top scum read…go!

##vote kingof

In the words of Phoenix Wright: HOLD IT!
Don’t jump the gun voting for me.
Townreads:
Bona, Jamie, bozo, idk last slot, those are my 3 more or less clear reads. Maybe ghug? Rivera also looks nice, but not much d2 substance.

Scum read:
Dunno. I don’t like damos shot, but I don’t think it necessarily is scummy, especially with the claim. Though it’s very possible that damo is self aware enough that if they were scum, they could make the claim and go for town cred, knowing we wouldn’t go for the kill. Spartaculous I also don’t like too much. So between those two probably.

Try again but with more nuanced thoughts about more players.

E.g. you don't explain why you don't like Sparta. You sound pretty unconvinced by damo being scum and seem to only include him just because.

You have no reasons to Town anybody? Why is the nice?

[sweetandcool]

##vote kingof

In the words of Phoenix Wright: HOLD IT!
Don’t jump the gun voting for me.
Townreads:
Bona, Jamie, bozo, idk last slot, those are my 3 more or less clear reads. Maybe ghug? Rivera also looks nice, but not much d2 substance.

Scum read:
Dunno. I don’t like damos shot, but I don’t think it necessarily is scummy, especially with the claim. Though it’s very possible that damo is self aware enough that if they were scum, they could make the claim and go for town cred, knowing we wouldn’t go for the kill. Spartaculous I also don’t like too much. So between those two probably.

Try again but with more nuanced thoughts about more players.

E.g. you don't explain why you don't like Sparta. You sound pretty unconvinced by damo being scum and seem to only include him just because.

You have no reasons to Town anybody? Why is the nice?

Why is rdr nice*

[kingofthepirates]

Adding in to the scum list, I have decided that my personal code includes excusing lurkers d1, mainly bc it’s easy to start slow and gain steam. I get that feeling, it’s like a Monday, ya gotta get into gear. D2 I’ve decided to be less forgiving, and lord’s continued lurk is unhelpful. Not a scum read, but someone I’m willing to vote for.

[rdrivera2005]

I didn’t think food was a PR. Idk why damo scummed him and decided to hip fire the kill.

What would you have done if given BEES?

Call a shot and seek reactions. That's usually the better play.

For anyone town with a normal reasoning.

[rdrivera2005]

Just want to say I am alive and will try to catch up on D2 tomorrow. But we are under a several flooding in my state and I might need to request a sub (probably won't be needed).

Just want to say I was happy with catching scum Just yesterday. Then I saw two PR dead in the bot and thought what the hell was happening. Then I read the Damo hipfired a PR. This is either a great scum play or a stupid town play. Either way I want to apologize to Balki (if he is town obviously).

Be safe. The pictures look awful.

When you can, can you explain why Balki obv town?

Thanks. Me and family are alm good, but I have friends who need to leave home. And thousands of people losing everything. Really sad.

I didn't mean to say that Nalky wad obv town. I was apologizing to him for defending Damo on D1, but only in the case he was actually town.

[Jamiet99uk]

Pirate? See, it's a struggle to exclude HamB

Then maybe something is faulty with your deductions. Flip it around and since I am town, what viable triple does that leave you with?

Sparta Vecna Jamie ??

That team makes no sense. If I'm lying scum, why would Ghug be lying town?

[sweetandcool]

Lol for some reason I thought it was EoD. Glad it is tomorrow.

[sweetandcool]

##VOTE King

For obvious reasons.

[damo666]

What would you have done if given BEES?

Call a shot and seek reactions. That's usually the better play.

For anyone town with a normal reasoning.

Normal is for, well, normal.

[kingofthepirates]

Try again but with more nuanced thoughts about more players.

E.g. you don't explain why you don't like Sparta. You sound pretty unconvinced by damo being scum and seem to only include him just because.

You have no reasons to Town anybody? Why is the nice?

Why is rdr nice*

Towns: generally being helpful and vibes. I refuse to go off ‘tells’ (still don’t know them, and I’m not taking anyone’s word on tells until I see them myself over several games), or past game patterns (“oh in X game Y did Z, and was role/alignment, and now Y is doing Z, so must be role/alignment”, doesn’t seem to have come up yet, but I’m throwing this out as something I will not do), and I do not have time to do lengthy analysis with AP season coming. But I’ve seen my town reads generally being active and helpful. I think both RBs have chances of being town. Rdr I include because of general helpfulness d1, and not participating d2 is fair given irl circumstances.

Specifics:
bona was active d1 and while many posts feel like wild shooting in every direction, I think their willingness to jump right out and go for the throat is courage only town would dare.
Jamie has been actively sniffing very hard, and I like that. Good vibes, though incorrectly followed up with my senator question (the answer: MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT TF UP, a metal gear meme).
Bozo: also actively sniffing, some good questions and hard grilling.

Sweet, ur on my town reads as well, just not as solidly, similar reasons to bozo. I can’t really elaborate further, specifics are hard to tie down and I’m going with my gut on some (like bozo’s questioning feeling right), but that’s all I can say for now.

[kingofthepirates]

Lol for some reason I thought it was EoD. Glad it is tomorrow.

Omg same here lmao. Glad we have more time.

[sweetandcool]

Try again but with more nuanced thoughts about more players.

E.g. you don't explain why you don't like Sparta. You sound pretty unconvinced by damo being scum and seem to only include him just because.

You have no reasons to Town anybody? Why is the nice?

Why is rdr nice*

Towns: generally being helpful and vibes. I refuse to go off ‘tells’ (still don’t know them, and I’m not taking anyone’s word on tells until I see them myself over several games), or past game patterns (“oh in X game Y did Z, and was role/alignment, and now Y is doing Z, so must be role/alignment”, doesn’t seem to have come up yet, but I’m throwing this out as something I will not do), and I do not have time to do lengthy analysis with AP season coming. But I’ve seen my town reads generally being active and helpful. I think both RBs have chances of being town. Rdr I include because of general helpfulness d1, and not participating d2 is fair given irl circumstances.

Specifics:
bona was active d1 and while many posts feel like wild shooting in every direction, I think their willingness to jump right out and go for the throat is courage only town would dare.
Jamie has been actively sniffing very hard, and I like that. Good vibes, though incorrectly followed up with my senator question (the answer: MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT TF UP, a metal gear meme).
Bozo: also actively sniffing, some good questions and hard grilling.

Sweet, ur on my town reads as well, just not as solidly, similar reasons to bozo. I can’t really elaborate further, specifics are hard to tie down and I’m going with my gut on some (like bozo’s questioning feeling right), but that’s all I can say for now.

Fyi you will always townread me if that is how you intend to decide who to Town. You will also always townread Bona. Probably Bozo too.

[damo666]

Then maybe something is faulty with your deductions. Flip it around and since I am town, what viable triple does that leave you with?

Sparta Vecna Jamie ??

That team makes no sense. If I'm lying scum, why would Ghug be lying town?

Why do you have to be lying? Maybe you RB'd ghug and brain RBd you. Or maybe you are lying (scum holstered and you're claiming for credit) and ghug isn't (brain RBd him).

But do you see how difficult it is to come up with a scumteam that excludes HamB?

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Spartaculous

I don't feel great about this vote, but I feel solid about it. I'd say that brainbomb was mostly pushing Sparta and to a bit lesser extent Vecna when brainbomb was night killed. Now, I think the brainbomb/Dr F slot was also near the top of the towniest town list, and was very unlikely to be miskilled, so it's not a perfect process to assume that brainbomb was on the right track. But if brainbomb was totally on the wrong track, I think he's quite a bit less likely to be the N1 kill.

Spartacus is still in the process of elimination. Nothing about his Day 1 took him out of that, certainly, so I think he is a good person to chop today.

Agree that Sparta is in the POE but don't agree with the Brain NK analysis. I don't remember a single game where Mafia NK on D1 was decided because of reads. It's usually about aiming at PRs or town who will never be DKed and Brain fit both in this game.

[kingofthepirates]

Just noticed you wanted explanation for sparta. Mainly for the same reason as Balki and you, too scum read by brain, who is now dead. Now I won’t speak for everyone, but if one were scum and a new player, I think the first instinct would be to quickly shoot people who sus’d me.