Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[Kakarroto]

Ok, hi people.

I have no idea what I'm coming into. Does anyone have a few areas of interesting conversation I can read over?

Also, I'm going to be a bigger man and not instahammer an out of game grudge. So I will just sheep him blindly instead. That'll piss him off more.

##Vote rdr

kak did you ever figure out why he thinks there is a grudge? and what reason he has to be angry?

? I'm no mind reader, if demon doesn't want to talk about that, I have no idea

[brainbomb]

that brain post pinged me with that conclusion (in red). I didn't want to take any reactions away from will, but seeing he did, I must say, I find it quite sus from brain to go to that conclusion. It heavily questions my town read from him here, because I think that town brain would not think that way. I mean, sure, I could be wrong, but man, that doesn't look good. Like, the very first thing that came into my mind was 'oh he probably thinks they are on different teams', as will said later. I find it very hard to believe that brain would overlook such a simple conclusion

He thinks rivera is scum
Rivera was roleblocked
Likely not an angel

He thinks I am also scum
I pushed, cased and successfully killed dip (even if the bot doesnt think so)
Also not an Angel

Rdrivera thinks I am scum

So wills scumread means he thinks im
Teamed with rivera as there is no other explanation

you are jumping to conclusions where it's not correct, because he could read you both as mafia with just disregarding that logic. Also, it it not 100%, as you said yourself 'likely'. And there is always the possibility of people just bussing. Heck, it could be just a lie about the rb.

Why are you thinking that RD was 100% rb'ed?

I dont, I have rdr as still possibly from the judge squad. and its possible but less likely the RB is fake.

[brainbomb]

youre making alot of spurrious excuses for will who is very clearly mafia here. like there is no way he could have rdr as scum and me as scum without even considering the events that have happened in the game.

[brainbomb]

now if his argument was that rivera has been fake scumreading me, that would be an interesting argument, one I might even consider more fully if he actually were to suggest it

[Kakarroto]

I really don't know what to think of Will now
It just seems so outlandish to me that brain is scum

you think town-brain would overlook such a simple thought/conclusion?

Yes?

I think there are hundreds of brain posts to look over that inclines ro town, and your post does not seem that exceptional

Perhaps you could elaborate

brain is someone who thinks of all the different things when he has theories and works on them, it striked me as very odd that he would overlook such a simple thing. He answered it himself and layed out how he saw it, but there are still things he overlooks again.

Now I could be wrong with my theory and it's just mistakes, and the things he overlooks don't matter. But I'm quite sure, if that, that he is wrong about will

[brainbomb]

as a counter point to that, will was caught deliberately sliding dip and war up his reads list and forcing new names in randomly ahead of him. and he never even tried to interact with dip at all.

[Kakarroto]

If I die please reread post 3809 where I explain the exact reasons why, and show my work on Will being scum.

In his reads he continuosly lists DipandWar as scum, and steadily keeps pushing players down into his scumreads to artificially move dip further up his list. This is noted in post 3809. During this time you might say "so what, he still scumreads dip, thats not scummy", but what is scummy is continuously and excessively voting alongside dip despite scumreading him, never questioning him directly, never quoting him, never actually talking about him, and then when dip is up for elimination, instantly its "dip is probably innocent". And there is some mention that this was a ploy to pretend to not really think this at all.

I expect I will die here, but will is scum, fidelis is also scum. and killing fidelis is probably more important here in case he is an arsonist.

?? how are you even coming to the idea that you get to be the target of a nk, with two (!!!) possible outed cops and mafia not having much nk power, especially since there are only two people who could be mean machine? And one of them is a cop claimant?

[ghug]

If I die please reread post 3809 where I explain the exact reasons why, and show my work on Will being scum.

In his reads he continuosly lists DipandWar as scum, and steadily keeps pushing players down into his scumreads to artificially move dip further up his list. This is noted in post 3809. During this time you might say "so what, he still scumreads dip, thats not scummy", but what is scummy is continuously and excessively voting alongside dip despite scumreading him, never questioning him directly, never quoting him, never actually talking about him, and then when dip is up for elimination, instantly its "dip is probably innocent". And there is some mention that this was a ploy to pretend to not really think this at all.

I expect I will die here, but will is scum, fidelis is also scum. and killing fidelis is probably more important here in case he is an arsonist.

?? how are you even coming to the idea that you get to be the target of a nk, with two (!!!) possible outed cops and mafia not having much nk power, especially since there are only two people who could be mean machine? And one of them is a cop claimant?

Brain, I don't think you answered before: why is Fidelis specifically the arsonist?

[Kakarroto]

Hello brainbomb

rivera and Kaka made some posts recently. Have you any thoughts on those?

rivera slight improvements
kak im starting to wonder why he was universally townread

tbf I'm also a bit surprised. Normally I garner many more votes onto me, but as far as I remember, only sweet voted for me unintentionally with a broken quote, and ND after i went for him. Maybe people just got to read me better?

[worcej]

as a counter point to that, will was caught deliberately sliding dip and war up his reads list and forcing new names in randomly ahead of him. and he never even tried to interact with dip at all.

I do think Will is a great flip on next phase

[brainbomb]

because I think he fits the bill of someone who people keep saying not to visit, and the posturing has been noted.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok if i was cop I’d scan mr foodie

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

now if his argument was that rivera has been fake scumreading me, that would be an interesting argument, one I might even consider more fully if he actually were to suggest it

Nah okay brain this is deliberately misleading

I can scumread you both. If one flips mafia, that doesn’t mean i have to continue to push the other

You are just looking for reasons to scumread me when you have none

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

as a counter point to that, will was caught deliberately sliding dip and war up his reads list and forcing new names in randomly ahead of him. and he never even tried to interact with dip at all.

This is not true

Also just because he goes up does not mean he is less scummy

It could mean different people are more scummy. Which is true.

Again, you are overanalyzing my reads list to find any reason to kill me

[brainbomb]

the problem is you think scumreading someone is just some thing you throw out there and it means something.

it doesnt. you have no thought process at all on the events happening, youre literally just saying things that sound cool

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If I die please reread post 3809 where I explain the exact reasons why, and show my work on Will being scum.

In his reads he continuosly lists DipandWar as scum, and steadily keeps pushing players down into his scumreads to artificially move dip further up his list. This is noted in post 3809. During this time you might say "so what, he still scumreads dip, thats not scummy", but what is scummy is continuously and excessively voting alongside dip despite scumreading him, never questioning him directly, never quoting him, never actually talking about him, and then when dip is up for elimination, instantly its "dip is probably innocent". And there is some mention that this was a ploy to pretend to not really think this at all.

I expect I will die here, but will is scum, fidelis is also scum. and killing fidelis is probably more important here in case he is an arsonist.

?? how are you even coming to the idea that you get to be the target of a nk, with two (!!!) possible outed cops and mafia not having much nk power, especially since there are only two people who could be mean machine? And one of them is a cop claimant?

Brain, I don't think you answered before: why is Fidelis specifically the arsonist?

Actually good point here. Why do you continue to push Fidelis over me even though you continue to have reasons to scumread me? Is it because the townflip will make you look bad? Or something else? I assume that the answer is not as extreme as I think but still a good thing to answer

[brainbomb]

hopping into a convertible and riding down the freeway is not gonna catch any scum. until I see you shred the aura of just being absurd for your own amusement, I cannot take your statements as real

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

because I think he fits the bill of someone who people keep saying not to visit, and the posturing has been noted.

Honestly fair point. Idk why nobody has visited DrFid

[brainbomb]

well because if you are an angel, we have two scumteams to kill, and dip and war seems to have made it pretty clear fidelis is not an angel. so killing him is probably a good idea. I suspect he is a judge based on sweet and dips cases

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

the problem is you think scumreading someone is just some thing you throw out there and it means something.

it doesnt. you have no thought process at all on the events happening, youre literally just saying things that sound cool

Um scumreading is something you put out there and it does meant something

And no I am not just saying things that sound cool