20 Questions: Game 253

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Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by JECE » Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:37 pm

Ah, I thought about a Savoyard Italian, but thought it unlikely. Nice one!

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by cdngooner » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:39 pm

That was a tough one! But fair. We made it hard on ourselves by some unfortunate questioning. Thank you, Wintergreen.

I'll start a new game shortly.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by wintergreen » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:35 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:31 pm
 Giuseppe Garibaldi. Born in Nice, France. In Italy, there is an area where French is spoken (Val d'Aosta).
Giuseppe Garibaldi, one of the only revolutionaries who came to work with the regime and yet still be a revolutionary.

Good job.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by cdngooner » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:31 pm

Giuseppe Garibaldi. Born in Nice, France. In Italy, there is an area where French is spoken (Val d'Aosta).

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by wintergreen » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:24 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:21 pm
Buggrit:

Did this person attain the citizenship of a European country other than France, but in which French is commonly spoken?
With all due respect, you never did give a straight answer to this question. You only gave a hint about the extent to which French is spoken there, but you never addressed the other part of the question which was whether this person was a citizen of a "European country". Given the information you gave us in the hint, he answer must be either:
  • Yes, he became a citizen of a European country other than France, in which there is a part that speaks French and a part that does not
; or
  • No, he never became a citizen of a European country other than France
Could you clarify, please?
Yes, he became a citizen of a European country other than France, in which there is a part that speaks French and a part that does not.

That is the answer.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by cdngooner » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:21 pm

Buggrit:

Did this person attain the citizenship of a European country other than France, but in which French is commonly spoken?
With all due respect, you never did give a straight answer to this question. You only gave a hint about the extent to which French is spoken there, but you never addressed the other part of the question which was whether this person was a citizen of a "European country". Given the information you gave us in the hint, he answer must be either:
  • Yes, he became a citizen of a European country other than France, in which there is a part that speaks French and a part that does not
; or
  • No, he never became a citizen of a European country other than France
Could you clarify, please?

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by wintergreen » Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:58 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:34 am
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:01 am
 Étienne Constantin, Baron de Gerlache

First PM of Belgium
Can't be him. We know that this person was born somewhere that is currently part of France.
Since not only was he not born in an area currently part of Belgium, but he was also nobility, it counts as scratched.
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:47 am
 Charles Rogier
First of the five non-free guesses, and a no. Here we're getting a little off-track with regards to national origin.
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:33 pm
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:01 pm
 François Isaac de Rivaz
Scratch this please!
Scratched.
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:16 pm
wintergreen wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:59 am
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:53 pm
 Buggrit:

Did this person attain the citizenship of a European country other than France, but in which French is commonly spoken?
Not wanting to go down a rabbit hole of what "commonly spoken" means, I will say that French is a native language in some parts of this country, while a foreign language in other parts.
So is this a 'yes' plus a hint, or just a hint? If it's a 'yes' then it narrows it down to Belgians and Swiss.
After doing some more research, I can say that a full 'yes' would be quite misleading, but that a 'no' would be just as misleading. I can give no more information on this beyond what I already have, but here's a hint:

This person's family was neither French nor spoke French natively.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Spartaculous » Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:33 pm

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:01 pm
 François Isaac de Rivaz
Scratch this please!

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by cdngooner » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:35 pm

then it narrows it down to Belgians and Swiss.
And if not a "yes", possibly Canadians, not to mention Mauritians, St. Martin Islanders and many parts of North and West Africa.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by JECE » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:16 pm

wintergreen wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:59 am
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:53 pm
 Buggrit:

Did this person attain the citizenship of a European country other than France, but in which French is commonly spoken?
Not wanting to go down a rabbit hole of what "commonly spoken" means, I will say that French is a native language in some parts of this country, while a foreign language in other parts.
So is this a 'yes' plus a hint, or just a hint? If it's a 'yes' then it narrows it down to Belgians and Swiss.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Spartaculous » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:01 pm

François Isaac de Rivaz

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by cdngooner » Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:33 am

Being Canadian, it seems a Canadian could fit this description, but almost all French-Canadian politicians were born in Canada, and the few exceptions don't meet the date range.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Hominidae » Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:47 am

Charles Rogier

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Hominidae » Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:34 am

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:01 am
 Étienne Constantin, Baron de Gerlache

First PM of Belgium
Can't be him. We know that this person was born somewhere that is currently part of France.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Aristocrat » Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:01 am

Étienne Constantin, Baron de Gerlache

First PM of Belgium

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by wintergreen » Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:59 am

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:28 pm
 Random free guess, likely not him but maybe will yield some hotter/colder info: Eligius Fromentin
No. Since you asked, slightly warmer than Ludwig I of Bavaria.
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:53 pm
 Buggrit:

Did this person attain the citizenship of a European country other than France, but in which French is commonly spoken?
Not wanting to go down a rabbit hole of what "commonly spoken" means, I will say that French is a native language in some parts of this country, while a foreign language in other parts.

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Jamiet99uk » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:53 pm

Buggrit:

Did this person attain the citizenship of a European country other than France, but in which French is commonly spoken?

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Aristocrat » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:28 pm

Random free guess, likely not him but maybe will yield some hotter/colder info: Eligius Fromentin

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by cdngooner » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:12 pm

12. Not a French member of the nobility
I wanted to guess one of several Princes of Monaco who fit the bill, but they are all both "French" (born in Paris) and "members of the nobility" (princes).

Re: 20 Questions: Game 253

by Hominidae » Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:42 pm

Even if my guess is wrong, I strongly suspect this is someone born within modern France who isn't normally associated with France. The fact that every France-related question has been answered with a "no" is suspicious.

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