Twenty questions, round 206

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Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by cdngooner » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:20 pm

"He had a notable interaction with one of our previous Twenty Questions answers."
That's right; he studied computer science under Donald Knuth.

Seriously, who was it? Bonus points for the punter who finds the connection.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:10 pm

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:17 pm
 I will give one more hint after Q19.
For the record, the hint was going to be something to the effect of "He had a notable interaction with one of our previous Twenty Questions answers."

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by cdngooner » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:06 pm

Yeah, those clues helped. Thanks.

"If the glove don't fit, you must acquit."

New game up imminently.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:40 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:45 pm
 Non-free guess: Johnnie Cochrane.
Johnnie Cochran:

* Was involved in the 1954-1968 Civil Rights Movement as a lawyer (for example, representing victims of police brutality), but is mainly famous for activities outside of that time period.
* Is not primarily famous for acting or athletics, but his most famous client was an athlete-turned-actor.
* Is not primarily a musician, TV presenter, or criminal, but represented many people accused of various crimes.
* Is not mentioned in the "Post-civil rights era in African-American history" article on Wikipedia, but the article does contain two sentences about the O.J. Simpson murder trial.

Congratulations!

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by cdngooner » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:45 pm

Non-free guess: Johnnie Cochrane.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by cdngooner » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:37 pm

Damn, I thought for sure the "connection to an actor or athlete" clue was a hint to Muhammad Ali.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:17 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:31 pm
 Just as a heads up, I think we're at 17 questions.
Okay, with that many questions gone, I will fill in a hint a little more. There are worse ways that you could spend your time than reading through that "Post–civil rights era in African-American history" article.

I will give one more hint after Q19.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Hominidae » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:10 pm

1. Real human
2. Male
3. Not a white man who was born after 1812
4. Dead
5. Not born in South America, Africa, Asia, or Oceania
6. Has an E or e in his first full name
7. Citizen of the United States
8. Born in 1881 or later
9. Did not hold elected office in the United States
10. African-American
11. Involved in the Civil Rights Movement from 1954-1968
12. Mainly famous for things other than being involved in the Civil Rights Movement from 1954-1968
13. Not primarily famous for acting or athletics, but has a notable connection to at least one of those two activities
14. Not mainly famous for something that happened prior to 1954
15. Not primarily a musician, TV presenter, or criminal, but...
16. Not mentioned in the "Post-civil rights era in African-American history" article on Wikipedia, but...
17. Born in 1938 or earlier

NOT:
Emmett Till (Wattsthematter)
Duke Ellington (wintergreen)
Elijah Muhammad (cdngooner)

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Hominidae » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:31 pm

Just as a heads up, I think we're at 17 questions.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:25 pm

wintergreen wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:13 pm
 Was this person born on or after January 1, 1939?
Oh, I guess I missed this question. Sorry!

No.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Hominidae » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:22 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I think you missed this question:
wintergreen wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:13 pm
 Was this person born on or after January 1, 1939?

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:15 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:17 pm
 Was he primarily a musician, TV presenter, or criminal?
Oooh oooh oooh. No, but...
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:51 pm
 Mentioned by name in this article? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93civil_rights_era_in_African-American_history
Also "No, but...". I mean, there's no interpretation issues there - his name does not appear in that article - but...

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:10 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:40 pm
 Free guess: Elijah Muhammad.
No.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Spartaculous » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:09 pm

So, DarthPorg asked me if the person was
DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:03 pm
 Involved in the Civil Rights Movement?
Before I made a decision about how to answer the question, I had to decide how to define the "Civil Rights Movement", because this was not specified in the question. The term can be used specifically to refer to the "social movement and campaign from 1954 to 1968 in the United States to abolish legalized racial segregation, discrimination, and disenfranchisement in the country" (quoting from the first sentence of that Wikipedia page I cited).

The term could also have a broader use: for example, would people involved in the Black Lives Matter movement of the past decade be considered to be in the Civil Rights Movement? Some people might reasonably do so. But I decided specifically to restrict the "Civil Rights Movement" to the period 1954-1968.

As per the previous questions and my answers, the person to guess did have some involvement in this movement in that time frame. However, he is best known for something other than being involved with civil rights during that time frame. But that's something for you all to ask me more questions about...

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by DarthPorg36 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:47 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:26 pm
cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm
 I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.
I read it as "Under the strict definition of 1954-1968, this person's biggest source of fame was not part of the Civil Rights Movement, but under a broader definition that isn't so restricted in time, this person's biggest source of fame was part of the movement." Otherwise, why would the QM have listed time as the "strict" part of the definition?
I think that the dates just bound what he considers "The Civil Rights Movement" it's the commonly accepted start and end dates, although there was more work before and after

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Wattsthematter » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:47 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:26 pm
cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm
 I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.
I read it as "Under the strict definition of 1954-1968, this person's biggest source of fame was not part of the Civil Rights Movement, but under a broader definition that isn't so restricted in time, this person's biggest source of fame was part of the movement." Otherwise, why would the QM have listed time as the "strict" part of the definition?
Best to wait until we hear from QM. In both of your defenses, it is a bit confusing, and clarity would be nice.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Hominidae » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:26 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm
 I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.
I read it as "Under the strict definition of 1954-1968, this person's biggest source of fame was not part of the Civil Rights Movement, but under a broader definition that isn't so restricted in time, this person's biggest source of fame was part of the movement." Otherwise, why would the QM have listed time as the "strict" part of the definition?

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by wintergreen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:13 pm

Was this person born on or after January 1, 1939?

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by cdngooner » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm

I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.

Re: Twenty questions, round 206

by Hominidae » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:54 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:51 pm
 You think? QM specifically referred us to a Wikipedia page for the 1954-1968 movement. Quite misleading if we are looking for another period.
No, you need to go back and reread.

He said that this person was involved between 1954 and 1968. But look at Spartaculous's response when asked if the person was famous primarily for something other than the Civil Rights Movement. "Yes, under the strict definition of 1954-1968."

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