PS I am not on Discord.

Count me in please.

You mentioned hidden movement, discovery, exploration, characters, armies, secret maps, fog of war, and secret victory conditions. This all sounds very interesting! Can you elaborate a little more without revealing too much?

I have withdrawn from this experience.

It became a weird board game where the actual players had very little agency

I am starting a new fantasy role playing game, it's not diplomacy, but it is multiplayer and uses hidden movement, discovery and exploration, includes character and military, secret map, fog of war, secret victory conditions, fun stuff. Private message me and I will send you the rules via discord server, and then you can decide if you 'd like to play or not. don't answer here, just send me a private message, I am trying to keep the players anonymous.