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by Telamor » Wed May 16, 2018 11:44 pm
by jmo1121109 » Wed May 16, 2018 11:36 pm
Octavious wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:23 pm Poppycock. You can't go around saying "I see I urgently need to re-remove the politics thread from the main page to get this fucking drivel out of sight" and then get surprised by people thinking that you were a keen supporter of the idea. If you take it upon yourself to be the biggest cheerleader of a policy that the rest of the site leadership barely mention then it is you who will be associated with it. This isn't a case of the annual meeting of jmo haters anonymous, this is because you picked up the flag of a policy that is another kick in the teeth to those members who enjoy debate, and you ran around waving it whilst telling people who disagreed to shut up.
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 10:23 pm
by flash2015 » Wed May 16, 2018 9:55 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 9:48 pm Jmo's upset because there's a pattern on this site of villainizing people that put in development time. He's not an admin anymore, he just dedicates a huge amount of his own time to helping us and Zultar accomplish what we ask him to. If he does something you don't like, direct the hate at us. Lord knows bo needs it.
by jmo1121109 » Wed May 16, 2018 9:50 pm
Octavious wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 8:45 pm Non stop aggressive attacks? Seriously?? Jmo, I have always respected your abilities and dedication to this place. I think you have about the same level of people skills as a rhinoceros that's just eaten a wasp nest, but that was fine because the game of diplomacy doesn't really attract normal people, and I doubt you could change even if you wanted to. I am well aware of my flaws, and I can't change either. If my behaviour is now considered to be non stop aggressive attacks you might as well ban me now and put me out of my misery.
by ghug » Wed May 16, 2018 9:48 pm
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 8:58 pm
flash2015 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 8:36 pm I really don't understand why people even want to go out of their way to be mean and insulting when talking about politics. What is the point of talking about politics if it isn't to try and better understand other people's opinions or convince other people to change their mind? I don't know about you but if someone is throwing around labels and insults and calls me names, I am not likely to go away and think "you know what, the guy that insulted me and labeled me an ignorant leftist swj marxist stooge actually has a point!". I am more likely to think that the person throwing around labels and insults does so because they realize that they have a weak argument (or that they don't even understand the issue that they are arguing about). The labels and insults are a "crutch".
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 8:45 pm
by flash2015 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:36 pm
Octavious wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 5:48 pm ghug wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 5:35 pm Why would anyone play Diplomacy? Oct, if political discussion dies off, I'm open to revisiting the discussion. We are legitimately going to be more lenient in moderation of that subforum, and to my eye it seems like this hasn't caused a drop in participation there. People can still find it quite easily. Fair enough, ghug. My eye is inclined to disagree, but I'm happy for us waiting for evidence to point one way or the other. I reckon give it a couple of weeks and have another look? I don't suppose you can give an example of the sort of thing that would be permitted in politics but not elsewhere, could you? Because I really haven't the foggiest idea of what the difference is.
ghug wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 5:35 pm Why would anyone play Diplomacy? Oct, if political discussion dies off, I'm open to revisiting the discussion. We are legitimately going to be more lenient in moderation of that subforum, and to my eye it seems like this hasn't caused a drop in participation there. People can still find it quite easily.
by jmo1121109 » Wed May 16, 2018 7:14 pm
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 6:09 pm
by ghug » Wed May 16, 2018 5:57 pm
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 5:48 pm
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 5:40 pm
flash2015 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 5:22 pm You don't come back to play diplomacy??
by ghug » Wed May 16, 2018 5:35 pm
by flash2015 » Wed May 16, 2018 5:22 pm
Octavious wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 3:19 pm C'mon, ghug, the forum hasn't been anything like the wild west for years, and nor do the forum rules allow anything remotely like that to return. To be honest I can't see any practical difference between the politics rules and the wider forum rules. This isn't about reviving the forum glory days, this is pleading with you not to kill off the last remotely interesting part of the forum that still remains. It's about keeping hold of a reason to keep coming back.
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 3:28 pm
jmo1121109 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 2:09 pm Octavious wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 12:40 pm Courteous as always, jmo. My apologies for assuming a bug was actually the site leadership listening to and acting on the concerns of its members. That you have apparently gone out of your way to disprove such a notion is... remarkable I do the code work, and when the site leadership requested I immediately fix a bug introduced I did so. What’s absolutely absurd is you accusing me of randomly unhiding and rehiding threads based on my personal interest. So if you’re going to make absurd accusations about me then I’m certainly not going to be courteous in return.
Octavious wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 12:40 pm Courteous as always, jmo. My apologies for assuming a bug was actually the site leadership listening to and acting on the concerns of its members. That you have apparently gone out of your way to disprove such a notion is... remarkable
jmo1121109 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 12:11 pmI see I urgently need to re-remove the politics thread from the main page to get this fucking drivel out of sight.
by Octavious » Wed May 16, 2018 3:19 pm
by jmo1121109 » Wed May 16, 2018 2:09 pm
by ghug » Wed May 16, 2018 1:59 pm
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