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Finished: 03 PM Mon 20 May 19 UTC
Just Some Diplomacy
1 day /phase
Pot: 30 D - Autumn, 10, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Pjsticha (211 D)
10 May 19 UTC Autumn, 6: My last second decision to have Minoan support-move to Cilician instead of support-hold Crete was a blunder.
10 May 19 UTC Autumn, 6: sorry, couldn't came online sooner! =/
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: Yo get off my land Carthage, you can die as part of the alliance, don't try and mess me up
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: Rome, do you mind poking Messenian Sea with Ausonian Sea?
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: Okay, but you better cover Sparta.
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: I’ve got a plan
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: Wow, you're really not that good at predicting moves are you Greece
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: Apparently not! My blunder with Crete has spiraled out of control.
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 7: You shouldn't worry, I'm now at Rome's mercy, Carthage wasn't able to hold
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: Greece, please move to Ionian Sea as soon possible.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: Roger that
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: Greece I hope you realise that in our current stalemate, Rome is projected to get a solo win in 2-3 turns
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: He's using you, you're getting nothing, they don't care and it easy points.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: Undoubtedly. But what are you offering? I break the stalemate, you and Persia eat up my territories and I still lose. You’ve got no incentive to ease up, especially with the current disposition.

All things considered, I’ll take the satisfaction of playing kingmaker.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: It's going to take way more than 3 turns for me to get 18 centers.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: I appreciate your support, Greece.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: The offer “lose to us, not your ally” is the weakest offer you could give me. Rome has helped when asked. If they get to 18 so be it.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: Speaking of, feel free to move Vind an Dal to border Cheronesus and Macedonia/Athens. You're picking up two SCs this turn which puts you at 15. I can hold the line while you pick up those last three.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: that's a little too heavy handed. Let's just play this out.
14 May 19 UTC Spring, 8: Greece I'm not suggesting it's better to lose to Rome and to Persia and myself, I'm only saying that the game is likely to end in a solo, meaning you'll have helped Rome for nothing. But I do agree we should play this out, it could change
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: Also Carthage do not touch my centres, play the game as you were, you're out, no point ruining me
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: After Persia, I will continue pushing east against Egypt. Greece, if you make progress against Persia, we could find a way for a two way draw
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: I'm unlikely to make progress against Persia until and unless some of Egypt's pressure is reduced on my borders. I'll be happy if I find a new stalemate.
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: what if Greece is defeated?
Rome will you be willing to draw anyways, or you'll try for solo?
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: I can't make that decision. It'll depend on the facts on the ground. Until Greece is defeated, I'll help Greece were I can.
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: I sincerely hope my play isn't so poor that I lose 7 Supply Centers before Rome can acquire 3.
14 May 19 UTC Autumn, 8: xD
I don't think so, you'll have to make a lots of bad moves, even if that happens, is more likely to Rome get 3 SCs!
I was just asking!
16 May 19 UTC Spring, 9: Nice work Persia, my only hope now is that I can survive long enough to see you take out Greece
16 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: I'll try my best to give you a fighting chance
16 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: ok
I'll apreciate that!
16 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: if you don't know what to do with Crete, you can hit Aegean!
just a thought! xD
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: Rome, bud, cutting support at Messenian Sea was the nail in coffin there. Just go ahead and grab the SCs you need.
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: I'll support-move you into Chersonesus from Black Sea. Macedonia, Athens, and Sparta should be uncontested. Good game, y'all.
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: Sorry for that one I figured you’d move that fleet to Crete
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: Yeah, gotcha. Figured I was losing Minoan anyway, so support moved from Messanian which was unlikely to be cut. Was hoping you were gonna keep going for Libyan.
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: We could still take a 4-way draw
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: Then you two still get to leave with credits
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: I'm willing to draw whenever you want!
17 May 19 UTC Autumn, 9: there's no need for Greece to die!
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: Rome, it's up to you now, we draw the game or you take the solo, entirely up to you
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: I think I prefer the solo.
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: ok
let's keep going!
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: Egypt can you hit Messenian with Crete?
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: I’ll just move out of Messenian, don’t worry.
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: ok
17 May 19 UTC Spring, 10: GG
18 May 19 UTC And to think this all could have been prevented if Carthage knew how to play the game
18 May 19 UTC gg
19 May 19 UTC Good game everyone
19 May 19 UTC congratulations! =)

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Rome
Pjsticha (211 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 30 D
18 supply-centers, 14 units
Persia
SmuRumS (307 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
9 supply-centers, 7 units
Egypt
SalmonMan (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Greece
ErosThanatos (156 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
2 supply-centers, 5 units
Carthage
ryleebuchert (102 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
DaButterMan (576 D)Persia (Spring, 5) with 6 centres.
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