Finished: 08 AM Fri 06 Jul 18 UTC
American Open
1 days /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 2014, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by CptMike (4309 D)
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2013: I’m not attacking anyone.
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2013: My border with Quebec is volatile, @Mex if you can help support hold please do. Also a betrayal mixed with my border would mean an instant win for Quebec, don’t let him say it won’t.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: I agree with BC on that one
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: Everything is now on support hold. I’m with you.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: If anyone decides to eliminate me to make a smaller draw, I will disband and move to give Quebec the solo.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: I’m support holding and voting to draw.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: Mexico... We know that you have an idea in mind...
What do you want in exchange of Louisiania ?
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: I always have ideas, but nothing will win or lose now except somebody missing a turn. Hold abd wait for a draw is the best approach.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: For Autumn you can get :
* Nueva Leon (from Veracruz, Potosi, ...)
* San Antonio
* Houston with my support
* Tampa with my support (but we need several trials)
* Arizona with my support (and that would fix a safe border between us)
* San Diego

Even if I take all the remaining of West Coast, there is no solo possible. Peru already controls Atlantic and Florida stronghold is yours even if Florida would "commit suicide" to try to make me win.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: No. All of us have deserved this split. There was a comment a while back talking about how all of us had at least 8 and we were quite far into the game. The fact that we are all still alive is testament to the quality of play and that alone deserves a split. There will be no betrayal on my end.
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: @peru be sure to support hold Juan de fuca thx
01 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2013: I get your point... If I do the job so that some players fall below 8 (but in fact BC is at 5.5 and Florida at 7.5...), you will have a second thought about this.

In any way, my orders are written. Let's see.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Your call Quebec, but I am happy to throw things to you. Let me know what you need.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: You have to understand, Florida, that’s why I had to take Havana
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: You can retreat on Str of Yucatán and disband Jacksonsville... You can then try to get Havana back or move to Yucatán or to West Carabean.. Manu options..
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: It is cool Peru, you did what you felt was best, rolled the dice. Now I throw what I can to Quebec. He only needs 5 and I have 6, lets see how it goes.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Mexico, better hop to it quickly
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: ...
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: @BC - attack Arizona.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: @Quebec - seeing as the end is nigh upon us, if we had stayed united, how long until you folded and voted draw? Also, it would be really nice to at least have an apology from you. I totally get the mind games and tactics you employed, but I have been honest to my allies from the start. Your slander against me would have been successful had I not been able to prove myself at every turn. This battle has been fun, and I really felt that we could force the draw. WP.


@ Florida - I am trusting that you will leave Yucatan alone, as I left you alone.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: @Mexico : you have been loyal with your allies in the sense that you have not stabbed them. But your movement to Apalachee Bay was a nosense except to you and it is only because of this movement that I could take Louisiana, as already explained... But it was good to position you.

Sorry but I don't think using his "allies" is loyalty. I feel this much more vicious than honnestly helping them but at one time, changing the alliance and attacking them to win.

And indeed : I confirm that I will not draw with more than 3 players.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Mexico, I am not going for Yucatan.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Quebec, I only ask that you leave me Maine. I do love Lobster and Acadia National Park.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: LOL... No prob. Maine is yours.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: LOL... No prob. Maine is yours.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Well I suppose my end is near... I remained loyal to my allies until the bitter end.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Merci, Quebec. We will retire to Bar Harbor to write our memoires.
02 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: Army San Antonio - Nuevo Leone
Army Jacksonville - Tampa
Army Tampa - Jacksonville
Fleet Straits of Florida - Havana
Fleet Straits of Yucatan support Fleets Straits of Florida to Havana
Fleet Miami - Hold
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: It seems the West is lost... so my stab of Florida will ultimately not matter
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: False.. with Peru and mex enough of the West could’ve been held to not allow a solo win. Combine with losses from Florida tho...
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: BC is correct, we had the flets... but hey, you got Havana!
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: It’s okay Peru.. I harbor no malice <3
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: Same, never malice, you make your bets, you take your chances.
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: 34 supply centers required for a solo. Washington, Oregon, Sanfrancisco, Los Angeles, Sandiego. I could 5 supply centers. Add those to Quebec’s current 29 and that makes 34, enough to solo. Mexico and I cannot hold the west coast.
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: lol, k
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: I could’ve taken back Los A and have an army on San Diego,Los A, San Fran, and Oregon. With the fleets, it could’ve been held and only give him Washington
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: His fleets will break through Mexico and I in the ocean, then Quebec would’ve broken you.
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: Conjecture i fine, but we know one thing. Peru made a choice and Quebec won a solo.
03 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2014: Still this was one of the most interesting games I’ve ever played. Thanks for the fun
03 Jul 18 UTC Always fun, everyone, even Q and P.
03 Jul 18 UTC Even now, the treasures of Texas, Florida, and Havana are being looted and shipped to Maine, where the Floridian exiles will flee.
04 Jul 18 UTC Let’s try to organise their convoi and golden exilé there... But it mat take some time and dépends on Peru’s marine...
04 Jul 18 UTC Don’t disband Tampa on no way...
04 Jul 18 UTC After a second review, I fear it is finished... Let's see.
04 Jul 18 UTC Good game everyone, so many twists and turns. Heartland at one point took Anchorage, seems like a lifetime ago.
04 Jul 18 UTC It would have been a funny convoy, Q.

GG all.
04 Jul 18 UTC GG all. The convoy would have been fun indeed :-)

I was lucky to have succeeded to generate doubt and quarrel between you. My two cents : whatever the guy who tries to get the solo tells you, don't listen to him !

Sorry Mexico, you took the role of the leader of the Alliance, so you was the obvious target I had to focus on. Nothing personal of course !

nb: I confirm that I am not the initial Quebec. I don't know who he was.
04 Jul 18 UTC Hey hey me and Florida were the ones directly keeping you from all the supply centers, we deserve some praise for holding the line for so long
04 Jul 18 UTC *high five*
05 Jul 18 UTC of course :) congrats! gg all

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Quebec
CptMike (4309 D)
Won. Bet: 0 D, won: 100 D
35 supply-centers, 29 units
Mexico
Survived. Bet: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 9 units
Peru
What1881 (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 9 units
Florida
yellowfin (143 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
British-Columbia
Caleb? (0 D X)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
3 supply-centers, 2 units
California
rondo (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Heartland
springm4 (45 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
New-York
J.Will (110 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Texas
zerosignal (141 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Cuba
Jacob63831 (160 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Jacob63831 (160 D)Cuba (Spring, 2002) with 5 centres.
DarkOrca (100 D)Quebec (Spring, 2006) with 16 centres.
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