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Finished: 12 AM Tue 05 Jun 18 UTC
America the Beautiful
16 hours /phase
Pot: 100 D - Spring, 2014, Finished
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 2001: If you play a world map, you can do that
30 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 2001: I was attempting to make a joke I understand that there is more to the globe than america haha
30 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 2001: Hey
30 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 2001: how do i find out which state i am in
30 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 2001: You are heartlands, you are only in Milw. Good luck?
06 May 18 UTC Spring, 2003: Well darn
06 May 18 UTC Spring, 2003: I know it’s in the game and I was screwed BC can’t be trusted
06 May 18 UTC Spring, 2003: Wait all you asked was to be friends, I said we can. Never knew you meant in this game or anything else, you weren't clear. Also you came in late so why should you get a piece of the pot that everyone paid for?
06 May 18 UTC Spring, 2003: Fair.
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: We need to stop maligning ppl who take over civil disorders. They are an essential function of this site so idle factions dont end up favoring the closest neighbor. On top of that, they should not be maligned for potentially benefitting from the pot because A) they are usually entering into situations of varying disadvantages, B) they are now part of the game in place of the player who forfeited his commitment and portion, C) they are helping the game as mentioned, and D) they just want to have fun. Thus, I find the "you came late" excuse for animosities and, even worse, backstabbings declared "allies" irrational at best and weak covers for cowardly treachery at worst.
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: This isnt directed specifically towards you, Kugs. You just happen to be the one who brought it up.
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: Let’s all hug and be friends
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: Let’s all hug and be friends
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: Then of course go back to killing each other
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: Okay sounds good
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: that one guy who saves but doesnt press ready :(
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: think its only fair if we give floridas territories to me
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: Everyone can play at their own speed, no idea what he has going on in his life
06 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2003: It was a joke.
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2004: I sorry, its a habit.
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2004: What's a habit?
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2004: saving orders and just forgetting to submit it
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2004: happens to the best of us
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2004: Nothing wrong with it
16 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: I yield. I'll ust be submitting hold orders from this point. Man Florida and California just fell apart so quickly. For the record Peru/Cuba the reason why I didn't want to side with you was two-fold. One I feared a powerful New York would come crashing through Florida if I did and I would be their main target. Two a strong Cuba on my south could be game ending, as he kept making fleets I wouldn't be able to keep up he would either become unkillable or he would take my coastline and we'd struggle over that.

The New York thing happened anyway, mostly because Florida collapsed so hard, but I had a feeling it might have been unproventable. Cali was surprised when New York and BC started working together, but I wasn't. They had worked together over Quebec and expected that to continue.

You guys can continue if you like to a solo or whatever, since this is unranked it doesn't really matter. My money is on New York though.
16 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: yeh I'm kinda fucked already too, so if someone wants to wrap me up, feel free
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: It's a shame you guys don't play out
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: For what purpose? It's unranked, and I'd rather avoid spending 3-5 years slowly losing on all fronts when I could use the points in a different game
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: You can play more than 1 game at a time
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: I'm in like 15, you only get so many points
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: Like I said if you want to play to a solo go for it, but I'm not going to sit here and plan out defensive moves when there is literally no winning moves. Either move faster or let the land go to someone else.
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: And lastly this game isn't anon, you should be able to see I'm on 0 points
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: What you do changed the gane co lately so regardless I play to the end. I guess we have different styles and our reputations reflect that because you never know what will happen.
Exactly so 0 points mean you should be trying, why would you give up?
17 May 18 UTC Spring, 2009: With Texas out then its only a matter of time before i go too, I really don't like leaving games early but there's really not much to do anymore.
17 May 18 UTC Spring, 2009: Well this game went to shit really quick
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: I still blame Purdue for terrible communication about who was and who wasn't off limits. Like in supposed to read his mind.
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: I apologize for the miscommunication, but I maintain your non-aggression pact should have done the job without me saying anything. What happened really made the game interesting though.
17 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: props to mexico! and Cuba's back!
18 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Well I got lucky Quebec left when Cali stabbed me. Glad karma worked out even though Cali said I had nothing on him
18 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: I had nowhere to expand at the time. It was stab Texas or BC. It was that or suffer from atrophy
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26 May 18 UTC Spring, 2011: Thank you sir
28 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2011: I apologize on behalf of BC/Kugs. If we can't trust ourselves to be strong enough to stick to our agreements, then let's just end this.
28 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2011: Why apologize when new York just CD'D and someone else took him over, never know what they will do or want
28 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2011: It's worth talking to them before stabbing a former friend...and Cuba is still here. Better to draw than to have your word mean nothing.
28 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2011: Everyone has and is entitled to their own opinion. I'm sure my word means something as you know it does. I also never talked to Cuba this game. Also, this New York isnt the one who i amde an agreement with
28 May 18 UTC Autumn, 2011: Its called diplomacy
02 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Look all, we had a great game together. New New York came in a little late and I thank him for taking over the CD. The 4-way draw seems a little shaky at the moment but let's not go stabbing our 4-way draw partners anymore.
03 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 2013: Could we draw! This game is taking time from every one!
03 Jun 18 UTC @BC: Could we draw, one again!

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British-Columbia
Kugs (1782 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
24 supply-centers, 23 units
Peru
LordNivlek (439 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
New-York
nguyenmt (5028 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Cuba
RAGINGWOMBLE (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
California
mfmozi (151 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Quebec
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Texas
ef9283 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Heartland
Mannan (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Florida
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Mexico
Easyman (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Epicetl87 (100 D)Heartland (Spring, 2001) with 3 centres.
Jehovakiin (100 D)New-York (Autumn, 2011) with 15 centres.
purrple94 (100 D)Quebec (Autumn, 2002) with 3 centres.
Nott the Brave (100 D)Mexico (Autumn, 1999) with 4 centres.
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