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Finished: 06 AM Fri 06 Oct 17 UTC
Anceint
1 day /phase
Pot: 50 D - Autumn, 11, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Public messaging only, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Daoapin (396 D)
04 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2: Lol, sure
04 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2: @Carthage @Persia do you guys want to kill greece and Egypt and draw
07 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 4: Wow. I've never played this map before. It's a real shitshow, isn't it?
08 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 4: Your telling me
08 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 4: Live game in a bit:

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=206022
10 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 4: @Rome, keep your fleet on the Gulf of Tacape. We can work together in the region.

@Persia, if you support Egyptian Sea-Crete and retreat from Sinai, I can work with Rome to help diminish Carthage a bit.
10 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 4: @Greece we gotta take out Rome together quickly.
11 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 4: @egypt help
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: @Persia, whaddya say?
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: Why not. Sure
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: But if you just go and occupy Sinai I'm gonna be a little peeved
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: I have nothing to gain by occupying the Sinai.
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: That's why I'd be a little peeved
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: Y'all have to agree that this game is a little more fun since I took over for the previous Egypt player that left.
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: That's undoubtedly true
11 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 5: @Rome, move to Leptis if you like.
12 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 5: @Rome, and again.
12 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 5: You should be able to take it this turn.
12 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 5: Lol, I forgot to actually send the move order to Chersonesus
12 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 5: Rome, oh, Rome, oh! Wherefor art thou Rome, oh?
12 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 5: Rude
13 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 6: I lost im not gonna try
14 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 6: @Rome, In that case please order Gulf of Tacape-Numidia
14 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 6: no dont. let him do what he wants
15 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 6: ok
15 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 6: Any objection to a draw now that Rome's dead? This game isn't going anywhere within the next few weeks
15 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 6: @Rome, Thank you! You are gone but not forgotten.
17 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 7: Let's draw.
19 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 7: @Persia, You are my sole ally. What do you need from my fleets?

@Carthage, You are my sole enemy at this point. Unless you de-escalate our frontier, you will remain my sole enemy. If you do wish to de-escalate, don't tell me. Show me.

@Greece, as Persia is my only ally and Carthage my only enemy, if you would like my support against Carthage, I am happy to provide it. I will not, however, assist you in any way against Persia.
19 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 7: Honestly, I would prefer a draw over anything else. Greece or Carthage, I'm trying to understand what you guys' gameplan is here. Would you be amenable to a three-way draw once the other of you is eliminated? Are you dead-set on winning by yourselves? I'm not encouraged by the lack of a draw vote from either of you, but I'm always ready to draw if you decide otherwise.

@Egypt, I think that we need to work on getting you more supply centers. I would be ready to support you up through the Greek heartland. I would happily support you to Messenian Sea from Libyan Sea, for example. I would warn you against overextension, though, as you currently have fewer supply centers than any other player. I would totally understand if you want to focus on North Africa for the foreseeable future. I won't really be able to help you there, though.
19 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 7: @Persia:

-As long as our alliance remains, we are the power on this board. You and I have 14 centers between us. We need three more to assure no solo.

-Carthage is our third. Greece will be eliminated between the two of you.

-If Greece chooses to vote draw now, he can come away with some points.

-If Greece chooses to draw, and Carthage chooses not to draw, then the three draw becomes G/P/E.

@Persia, are those terms agreeable to you?
19 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 7: @Carthage/@Greece, what say the two of you?
19 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 7: That sounds good to me
19 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 7: My draw vote stands whatever happens.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 8: @Greece, I see you want to draw. We need to coordinate with Persia and destroy Carthage.

@Persia, can you halt your current offensive against Carthage and re-position so that we can make a joint assault on Carthage?
24 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 8: Let's Jew it
24 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 8: @Carthage, vote draw or Persia will solo.
24 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 8: Solo? I'm looking for a draw. I was the first one to suggest a draw. Kindly don't portray me as a warmongering menace.
24 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 8: Persia let's get rid of Egypt.
24 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 8: @Persia, my utmost apologies for my unfair characterization of your intentions. You have been nothing but a reliable and trustworthy ally. Your are true blue.

My last press to Carthage was poorly worded. What I was attempting to communicate was my willingness to abet your solo in order to leverage them to vote draw.
29 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 10: Carthage, will you be good to press that draw button when Greece is finally dead?
02 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 10: Hi New greece here
02 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 10: Can you not kill me or bye bye? :)
02 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 10: The die is cast
02 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 10: bye bye all
02 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 10: Sorry Egypt, I really was planning to draw. Carthage's obstinancy prevented that, though.
02 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 10: Understood. I have nothing to lose as a late joiner.

Well played!
03 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 11: Hey, I was waiting for Greece to get knocked out.
03 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 11: but we'll played all the same.
04 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 11: well*

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Persia
Daoapin (396 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 50 D
21 supply-centers, 17 units
Carthage
moodltha00 (103 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Egypt
Roadhog (304 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 0 D
0 supply-centers, 3 units
Greece
erzetael (1239 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Rome
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Not Hitler (0 D X)Greece (Autumn, 9) with 2 centres.
Abdulaziz14 (0 D X)Rome (Autumn, 6) with 0 centres.
SweatyKeith (100 D)Egypt (Autumn, 1) with 3 centres.
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