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Finished: 09 AM Sun 27 Dec 15 UTC
A Different Mirror
1 day /phase
Pot: 77 D - Autumn, 2022, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
12 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: Thanks ONLY to those who push "Pause" button. I hope Texas, Mexico and Quebec never need pausing the game for holidays or other reason.
12 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: Well sorry Heartland but I was a victim of someone claiming that they were not able to input their order or requested a "pause" only to submit them with right before the deadline. Which gave them a huge advantage.
12 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: Yes same thing happened to me.
12 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: There are no excuses. You could have warned you were not going to push the button.
Because of your decision, Texas and Quebec have taken advantage over Heartland.
that's take advantage in an unfair way.

I don't want to play anymore in this game. I'll push cancel.
12 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: You actually gained a supply center in you absence
13 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: Yeah
13 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: ??????
When I was back yesterday in retreating phase, (one phase lost), I moved to Colorado in Spring and none SC was gained in that season. Anyway, you can retake the SC this turn. I'm ordering "hold" to all my armies.
This conversation is over for me.
13 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: What do other players think? Draw? Cancel? Continue?
31 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2006: I will survive
31 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2006: I have faith in you
09 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2008: GameMaster: Qalu was banned: multi/no reply. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
24 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2012: GameMaster: jojojohnson was banned: repeat multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
24 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2012: Dear GameMaster : What is the logic of waiting when such person is almost off the board already ? Or is that an automatic functionality ?
24 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2012: I would assume the guilty were located in a different game and that their ban in this game was not tied to our progress.
29 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2013: Hello all new cuba here!
29 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2013: seems like nobody liked the old cuba...
30 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Hi there ! We all feel sorry for the situation you have come into, nothing personal. You are right : he did not give many reasons to make himselves liked ....
30 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Says replacement New York...
01 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Quick heads up to the board that I have been stabbed by NY. If you have deals in place with him, they are likely meaningless.
01 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Peru, I did not have a deal with you. Do you want me to paste our full conversation in the Global box here or are you going to stop crying ?
01 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: You are most welcome to post our "full conversation". I'll be sure to fill in the parts that you failed to post.

By the way, it's not "crying" to alert the board of stabs. In fact, I would argue posting stabs for all to see is one of the reasons Global chat exists. I could give a rat's ass that you stabbed me - you're not an honorable player, so what else would I expect - but there is nothing wrong with posting it in global, so stop your crying.
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: With all respect, this is Diplomacy. I have been stabbed by NY too (with a previous deal). No problem.This game is this way.
Make another alliances and try to give back the beat.
Everyone can stab anyone, in any time.
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Exactly Texas. But the worst is when someone comes in new, tries to make a deal, and based on his PROPOSAL starts to send out such messages.
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Heartland ;)
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: I think global chat should only be to talk about open tactics or strategies.
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: sorry Heart, I agree !
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: Thankfully, we each get to use Global as we see fit.

Sorry that I joined the game and stopped you from taking SCs without having to tell lies or without a fight. If it bothers you when people do that - if that is the "worst" - then maybe you should only play private games, NY.
04 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2014: Peru Please can we avoid our conflict
05 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2015: Complex game here. Evening, all.
05 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2015: HI Cal.
06 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2015: I'm done. Has been an interesting game.
11 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2017: How many supply centers are needed for the solo win?
11 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2017: 34 i believe
15 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2018: Peru, you are such a nice friend for your partner Cuba !
16 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: Peru, why continue to hold? If you want NY to win, just give up all your SCs already...
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: Calif - your play your pieces, I'll play mine.
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: Just saying that if you're going to throw a game, throw it already. You've already committed, so stop your stalling
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: Play your pieces Cali and I'll play mine. End of the discussion - stop creating drama.
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: For someone so vocal about another player earlier in the game, your double-standard is somewhat ridiculous.
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: As is your dire need to create drama. Stop being a child.
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: So hostile
17 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2019: No drama-- just questions. Because you know, it's a game. About communication.
17 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2019: . . .
23 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2021: We've gone back and forth in this fashion for the last two years or so. Anyone interested in a draw yet? NY, I know you probably want to win outright, but figured I'd ask.
23 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2021: I have voted for a draw since the 1st purge of players circa 15 years ago.
23 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2021: Draw vote entered
25 Dec 15 UTC NY - draw?
26 Dec 15 UTC Good game all. That one was interesting
26 Dec 15 UTC Wow we got NY to draw! Good work all! Merry Christmas.
26 Dec 15 UTC Good game guys! Merry Christmas

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New-York
taipan (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 6 D, won: 19 D
26 supply-centers, 26 units
California
Onegarbageman (701 D)
Drawn. Bet: 9 D, won: 19 D
13 supply-centers, 12 units
Texas
svenubl (3350 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 19 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Peru
Eadan (454 D)
Drawn. Bet: 4 D, won: 19 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
British-Columbia
ARNESEN (372 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Heartland
Catan (161 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Florida
BreakThrow (142 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Mexico
KrisWH (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
jojojohnson (66 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
Markgreg (30 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
ahdfuoa (107 D)Peru (Spring, 2002) with 6 centres.
Lake047 (218 D)Cuba (Autumn, 2012) with 7 centres.
Qalu (200 D X)Peru (Spring, 2008) with 7 centres.
cardboardbox (496 D)California (Autumn, 2014) with 12 centres.
Vulvasaurus (100 D)New-York (Autumn, 2007) with 11 centres.
KrisWH (100 D)Mexico (Autumn, 2006) with 0 centres.
jojojohnson (66 D X)Quebec (Spring, 2012) with 1 centres.
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