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Pot: 522 D - Spring, 2004, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Draw-Size Scoring
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11 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1994: Looks like we have two CDs.
17 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1995: So, how is everybody doing?
24 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1997: Seriously? A ukraine, Italian, french, english, polish alliance?
24 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1997: I know- I'm kind of being screwed by the numbers up here.
24 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1997: And yet you are doing a great job staying alive.
29 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: So what are peoples thoughts on drawing?
29 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: Not yet.
29 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: Well obviously not immediately, but once one or two more people have died...
30 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: So essentially after German and the mystery man behind door #4?
30 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: Germany*
30 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: Germany could hold on.
31 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: This is a pretty badass game though
31 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: No, my last hope of surviving died when Ukraine refused to turn on Italy.
01 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Coincidentally this is also why I am upset with him. He is using Italy as a meat shield stopping any conflict from happening to him, and thus we have our issues with Russia, Ukraine, and myself.
01 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1999: You can't "turn" on someone who wasn't allied to you....

It is mutually beneficial for Ukraine and I to not fight.. Why is that so hard to accept?
01 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Geeze, when you put it like that I dunno Italy. Maybe it is how staggeringly "more fair" your mutual agreement is to one of you than the other. But I digress because global discussions are always behind masks.
01 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Who is it helping more? He or I? You and Russia painted his head with the Solo threat when you three are all almost even in centers. 11 center nations cannot cry wolf about a 12 center nation going to solo.
01 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: To the second part: he was 12 and growing and I was 8 to a Russian 11, and neither of us could move anywhere because of you and England.

Think about it. The Ukraine was allied with you, myself, and Russia. He took over polland and what he wanted from Turkey. What was the only thing stopping him then? I'll tell you what, literally all of his allies. He was allied with everyone he was touching.

Now I want you to do something. Go to Autumn 1996 just before we attacked him. I was at 8, Russia was 11, and Ukraine was 12. Look at how the Ukraine has nowhere to go. Russia was his ally, I was his ally, and you were his ally.

Now I also want you to look at something. You see how his troops are *not* lining our borders? Do you see whose border he was lining? He wanted to grow into you and Europe and have us dominate the North and South seas for him.

We saved your damn ass. And for some unknown reason, you missed what was about to happen, and joined him. You're his little Italian whip.

To the first part: Yes.
01 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Should have let him attack me before you did anything.
01 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Why? I honestly thought we had timed it so that we were going to attack him right when he attacked you. I guess we were a turn early.

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