http://patriotupdate.com/26058/top-12-reasons-to-vote-democrat

Way to think for yourself there, smart guy.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/12-reasons-to-vote-republican-in-2012/question-2543085/

Look at me, I can cut and paste talking points too. Isn't political discourse fun?

Heh heh. I was going to a nice list myself to make him look stupid buts it's better to let stupid people be stupid and not intervene or point out thier stupidity.

Oh, I was all the way down to number 9 before I decided to just Google the shit and see if he plagiarized it.

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Good to know ignorance is alive and well. But hey, I'm sure its easier to just want to turn the clock back to those halcyon days of yore... back in the 50s. You know.. when we taxed the top bracket at 90 percent.

Fucking mouthbreathers.

OK, as much of a conservative as I am, I just have to point out the stupidity of 1. anyhow. Allowing consenting adults to marry regardless of sexual orientation does not equate to unions between people and animals or buildings or even pedophilia. Gays and Lesbians are consenting adults entering into a legal and binding agreement together, something your German Shepherd can't do.

I really hate these stupid attacks not even founded in fact no matter which side they come from.

You know what else we did in the 50s? Overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran because of faulty intelligence from Britain.

Good thing we're not overthrowing Middle Eastern governments because of faulty intelligence from Britain anymore.

REALLY good thing that there's never been any kind of blowback from Operation Ajax, and the Shah that we installed is still in power there. He'll keep the Islamic fundamentalists from taking over in Iran WAY better than a democratically elected leader.

Because fuck Iran, that oil is OURS.

More like "Fuck the dummycrats, that Alaskan oil is *ours*!" We wouldn't need Iran if we would just use the resources we already have.

Average ...your upset because he. GASP...took something from the web??? Seriously? I suppose if he had oosred Liberal talking points you'd be as happy as a fly on shit.

SEE point 4...

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that the largest slice of foreign oil, more than any other country, and more than the entire Persian gulf triumvirate combined, is.... wait for it.... Canadian.

We do take billions in American cash, but I'd like to think we don't hate you.

Also, I do believe that a smaller proportion of consumed oil is produced externally now than was the case in 2008. Obama, despite all expectations, has considerably increased oil and gas exploration domestically.... but yes, talking points, socialism, rah rah rah...

krellin, I hope you'd agree with me that this post consists of 11 straw men and an ad hominem.

If you think Romney is the right man for President then you deserve him :-)

"6. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius."

This one in particular shows a complete lack of understanding of the two sciences involved here. A straw man indeed.

"""4. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it."""

I need to rant about this. I hear this all the time on these forums (and from the wider American media). "Thought police" "Hypersensitive feminazis" "Political correctness" are all cited as somehow undermining free speech whenever a comedian or a politician gets in hot water for saying something offensive.

So my question is.... what the hell does this have to do with the first amendment, and what does it have to do with the Democratic Party? I genuinely don't understand the connection. Is there a secret cabal of gays and women working at the behest of the Obomber to shut down free press, one Rush Limbaugh at a time? What Democrats are trying to take away freedom of speech? If individuals call you racist, sexist, stupid, wrong, or if they call you offensive, and criticize the hell out of what you say, and refuse to compensate you financially as a result of being offending, that's not the abridgement of free speech, it's the adult of equivalent to your Mom scolding you for having a filthy mouth. If this is what you reference when you claim that Democrats undermine free speech, your understanding is childish at best, disingenuous at worst.

The actual abridgement of freedom of speech is when the state uses instruments of power to censor speech and uses the threat or actuality of state power to punish the use of speech or intimidate potential speakers. What Democratic legislation or politician supports this?

Or have I violated your freedom of speech by being too intimidating and strident in my criticism....?

'6. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that
the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.'

I think it is fair to ignore you because you don't know the difference between climate and weather. But i Feel a great desire to educate you. However i suspect your willful ignorance is driven by your own lack of interest in the issue...

'7. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted (murdered) so long
as we keep all death row inmates (murderers) alive.'

I'm so glad you support the right to life, life is sacred and we should never think that we have the right to take this gift from god away.

Oh wait you're in favour of capital punishment? That's a little contravesial; please look at this map to see the good company you keep: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_country (i'm sure if this was done state by state instead of lumping the US all together you'd be able to see some parts of the US are different from others... More 'enligthened' perhaps)

So we should keep bodies alive on feeding tubes forever, right? (i think it is a really cool fact that the so-called 'second brain' about a hundred thousand neurons, which controls the digestive system can function independantly of the central nervous sytem. Make sense from an evolutionary perspective... I guess most mamals work like this....) every sperm is special so we should ban masturbation and condoms, right?? Oh and the rythym method - it allows for an egg to be fertilised but because of the part of the woman's menstural cycle her uterus is inhospitable - or if implantation does occur the uterual wall breaksdown and washes the 'potential' life away. Perhaps All tampons from sexually active women should be checked for murdered babies and we can execute these murders!

Flc, you do democrats proud by making yourself look like an idiot. I'm glad i don't live in the US.

Hmmmmm... I spy strawman, weak analogy, slippery slope, oh, and a number of statements I can only define as committing the logical fallacy of being stupid as all fuck.

Friendly, it is like this on the 'free speech' bullshit in America. If a person calls a black man a 'ni66er' all hell breaks loose, if a black man calls a mexican a 'spic' its all good.

There is a Hierachry of racism, maybe not just here in my fucked up country, but across the world.

The higher your group is on that ladder, the more racist shit you can talk, without really 'rocking the boat'

lol, sad, but true, and accepted now.

Top 12?
1. Romney
2. Gingrich
3. Bush
4. Palin
5. Santorum
6. Cheney
7. Schwarzengger
8. McCain
9. The Tea Party
10. Fox TV
11. News Corp
12. Quayle

The top 12 reasons to vote republican are mostly called Kennedy...

wtf is that list?

A list of 12 nutjobs in the Republican Party that make him want to vote Democrat.

and I can list 12 equally certified nutjobs on the other side, making a clean 2 dozen.

Stressedlines, what you described still does not amount to censorship and the limiting of your first amendment rights. Moreover, did it ever occur to you that this 'hierarchy of racism' actually resembles the inverse of genuine historical racist social hierarchies?

In any case, your 'freedom' to use racially insensitive language while in a position (I am assuming here) of privilege does not necessitate having the freedom to do it without social sanction. Political sanction possibly, but social sanction no.

Do you think that freedom is being undermined more by a) People getting offended at white people being inadvertently racist and/or offensive or b) People in underprivileged positions afraid of speaking out against racism and abuse, and the normalization of racism and abuse as appropriate aspects of speech in society

I'd rather be under Democrat nutjobs than Republican nutjobs.

@YadHoGrojaUL: Yeah, I think Fox News should be #12.

I'd rather be under Republican boobs than Democrat nuts. He'll I'd rather be under boobs than nuts anyday.

Oh no, here come the Democrats! Good bye, wars with vaguely-defined objectives entered on the basis of faulty intelligence, hello health care initiatives and progressive taxation.