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dubmdell (556 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
Could a mod check the email?
Game in need of a pause, at least two players have stated they emailed you. There's uniform agreement to the pause except one no-show for the last week. Thanks.
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vitus1 (100 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
50 point, PPSC, Anon, Full Press Game
gameID=91118
As the title says, 50 D each, PPSC, Anon, Full Press...
Four more needed.
Trashy players who are likely to CD and trashy players who are likely to capitalise on CD's need not apply.
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
EoG Bovine Thud
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
06 Jun 12 UTC
Great Debate spin off poll:
I've done this poll on another site and got some interesting results. I'll bump this one from time to time, just "like" the post that most resembles your demographics. It's in response to a statement about the forum community's demographics and I'm curious.
36 replies
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: Kriegspiel
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: live gunboat-224
5 replies
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Attention, my Christian friends
As many of you will be aware, I'm an atheist. Or a least, I *was* an atheist...
50 replies
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Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Jun 12 UTC
So, has anyone ever seena triple build 01 Italy?
Just wondedring if it is one of the rarest 01 occurences or not.
43 replies
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Vicky[Toss] (0 DX)
07 Jun 12 UTC
How old are y'all?
I just want to get a little idea of the age distribution of this site. Right now, my prejudice is that the majority are High school - College Students.
116 replies
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Putin33 (111 D)
10 Jun 12 UTC
Danes slay mighty Dutch
http://www.hindustantimes.com/sports-news/Football/Danish-treat-Oranje-left-red-faced/Article1-868712.aspx

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redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
Marriage
So what do all the married folks on this site recommend, is getting married a good idea? Are you getting what you expected from it? Be honest all :-)
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Vicky[Toss] (0 DX)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Someone explain Italy for me please
gameID=90629
This is a gunboat in progression so I don't know if this violates any rules, but can someone explain to me why Italy is the way it is.
Please.
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thatwasawkward (4690 D(B))
05 Jun 12 UTC
24,500 point WTA gunboat.
Hoarding points is pointless.
gameID=90772
Let's make some webDip history.
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
USA Capital Region needs a player
So the USA Capital Region made the World Cup finals but I can't actually play this summer so we desprately need someone for a full press game.
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taos (281 D)
07 Jun 12 UTC
what is the details button for?
if you look below the game status in your homepage you will see :
open-orders-mesages-details
what is the diference between open and details?
seems the the same to me.
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dubmdell (556 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
New user needs players!
He sent me a PM to join his game. I'm not free to play right now, but maybe some of you can since he doesn't know how to start a new thread. gameID=91061 5 D and 24hr
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fortknox (2059 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
Congrats on our newest mod!
Sorry this took so long to get out, folks, but our newest mod has some computer trouble and we were waiting until he was around regularly.
I'm proud to announce our newest webdiplomacy moderator:
TruNinja
Please take a moment to congratulate him and thank him for putting in extra volunteer hours to help the site stay fun.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Jun 12 UTC
Car Talk to Retire in September : (
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20813861/npr-car-talk-duo-retiring-reruns-continue

I heard this on NPR today and it made me very sad. Any fans out there? How long have you been listening for?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
GR - Wot no June !!
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
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The Doctor (100 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Variant Maps
Could someone tell me the address for the other variant diplomacy maps (Renaissance, American Civil War, etc). Thanks.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Child Pornography police arrest Michigan Man
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18377172
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achillies27 (100 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
EoG- I feel like GUNBOAT!
gameID=91087
Thoughts? i'm not going to write a long EoG, I dont have the time, but i would like to hear what other people think of the game.
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King Atom (100 D)
07 Jun 12 UTC
This Site is Worse Off than I Remembered It to be...
What happened? When I left, I didn't expect the few religious debate threads or the serious diplomatic action threads to become the main feed of the crazy trolls around here. It's like you're separated between those who live for this site, and those who live for the debates on this site.
26 replies
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cteno4 (100 D)
05 Jun 12 UTC
Multi-account rules clarification
I remember somebody in the forum stating that multi-account questions should *not* be directed to the [email protected] email address. Has this changed?
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largeham (149 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Diplomacy Club
As Chanakya is on leave, I think, and the first game is now finished, I decided to start a new thread (I assume the old one has been locked).
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
25 May 12 UTC
NATO is not the World Community...
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/24-05-2012/121228-nato_world_community-0/

i was thinking that taking many points of view would give a better idea of the propaganda we see in the mainstream media, but now i feel like i can't believe what i'm reading (due to the propaganda which has worked on me...) Where to find balance? if it even exists...
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gman314 (100 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
What could a unit be doing?
I think that this forum needs less politics/religion. To that end, I am going to start keeping a strategy thread on the first page at all times. This is a revised version of a short article I first wrote on the vdiplomacy forum: http://vdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=29955#29955
gman314 (100 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
Note: A lot of this is more general than just discussion of Classic. So, some examples may use variants with which some players are unfamiliar.

Recently, I've realized that in the spring of the first year, a lot of players will send a unit into an adjacent SC. Then in the fall, that unit will often do NOTHING. Why??? You could be defining the gameplay in this crucial first year. Maybe that unit doesn't actually have something worth doing in the first Fall. Maybe there really isn't anything worth doing. In that case, why did you rush there in the spring? Did you just want to hurry up and wait? THAT IS POINTLESS!!!!!

The worst-case scenario is when, in the spring, while your unit rushes (unnecessarily) to an SC and your opponent moves to threaten that unit's original position. You then send your unit back to defend but your opponent doesn't attack so you lose the SC you had been sitting in. Or, on some maps (not classic) your opponent takes the neutral from you.

For example, consider South Australia in Mate Against Mate. (http://vdiplomacy.net/variants.php?variantID=37 There are actually tonnes of possible examples on this map.) South Oz's army at Alice Springs could slip into CP in the spring. BUT WHY????? There is so much else that it could be doing. Imagine that AS moves to CP while Broken Hill moves to Eyre. Then, in the fall, CP covers AS while Eyre sneaks into... CP!!!

As an alternative, AS could have attempted a bounce with a possible attacker. Matilda Track, Great Sandy Desert, Tennant Creek or Eyre are all great choices. By moving to one of those, you are stopping the worst-case scenario. And, if the expected bounce doesn't happen, then you have a unit next to someone else's home SC and they are the ones in the awkward position!

Now, someone is going to say "But if you fail the bounce, you can't take the SC!" WRONG. (Sometimes.) In the above example, AS can move to Eyre! Then, they are stopping a possible attack (if it comes) while staying in position to take CP! So, you have two birds covered with one stone!

And this isn't the only situation where a unit can do more than just beeline to a destination neutral SC. Even in the case where the trip will take a full year, more can be achieved. For example, in classic, Russia has two routes to get St.P(sc) to Sweden. They can go through Finland or Gulf of Bothnia. Here, Gulf of Bothnia is generally the better choice because GoB can then move somewhere like Baltic Sea if Germany seems aggressive. Finland on the other hand, would have to go through GoB to get to Baltic. Another example (I would say a better one even) is this game of WWIV (http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5649#gamePanel) where I am Congo. In the first year, my fleet at IN can go to LUB or STH. Through negotiations, South Africa lets me have LUB and I let Brazil have STH. But, I move to ANB. Why??? By moving to ANB I don't risk a bounce, and have both possibilities. If South Africa does an immediate stab by going to NAM or SAT, I can then try to negotiate for STH instead of ANB. Or, if Brazil seems content to give STH to Nigeria (which I really don't want) I can then oppose this move. The same logic is shown by Nigeria moving to ESA rather than to IVO in order to get to DAK. In both cases players increase their possible influence while accomplishing the same goal.

A similar principle applies throughout the game, especially in gunboats. EVERY TIME YOU ISSUE A HOLD, YOU'RE WASTING YOUR UNIT!!!! If you have a unit that's holding, think about ANYTHING it could possibly be doing. It's better to issue a support that will only work if your opponent CDs or is incompetent than to do nothing. Because you never know if your opponent might be a moron. And in gunboats, you can always try to signal by doing some sort of move. Hopefully, others will catch on. So, think very carefully before you issue a hold order.

Also, this strategy can be taken to a greater level than just 1901. Take, for example, the Bohemian Crusher move in Classic. Italy gets into position to take Trieste in the Fall by moving to Tyr and Ven. But if he goes for Trieste, what's that unit going to do? If Italy's given away that he's attacking Austria (which he has, by his aggressive moves) Austria will recall troops, so they will end up in a locked up position with Italy only having Trieste, until Russia walks in and takes the rest.

In the Bohemian Crusher, Italy doesn't rush straight for Trieste after moving to Tyr. He moves Tyr-Boh, Ven-Tyr. This, combined with a build from Tunis in Venice, means Italy is almost certain of getting both Trieste and Vienna, which gives them a decent shot at Bud and, later, the Balkans also.
By not 'rushing in', Italy ends up a lot more powerful. Although it gives up on the 1901 build, it makes up for it in 1902, and throughout the game.

This idea of trying to accomplish something extra doesn't always apply. In a press game, you don't need to try unnecessary bounces, because they're likely agreed upon. Then, when someone breaks a DMZ, you're more certain that they're attacking you rather than being a pain. And in a gunboat game, Russia might want to signal to Germany by moving through Finland. An example which seems to break this rule is Austria rushing to Serbia in the Spring. However, this unit generally will do some sort of support move like Albania -Greece or Budapest - Rumania. It is not wasting its move

But, in most cases, some general principles apply:
1) Never issue HOLD orders for your units when they have alternatives. Even if all you want the to do is stay in their present position, always have them doing something when possible.
2) Don't be such a dot grabber that you rush blindly into supply centers whenever they are available. Play both spring and fall phases with an equal amount of enthusiasm. Games are won by the moves you make in the spring that allow you to hold onto the centers you have in the fall.
Sandgoose (0 DX)
08 Jun 12 UTC
God, that's so much to read...
gman314 (100 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
Note: This revised article includes contributions from RUFFHAUS8 (http://vdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=2002) and Captainmeme (http://vdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=1745).


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The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
08 Jun 12 UTC
You are not special.
Loved this high school commencement speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_lfxYhtf8o4
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
01 Jun 12 UTC
Full Disclosure Game 2.0
This game is still waiting to get off the ground. England from the original game 2 went into Civil Disorder and I'm being (tentatively) replaced by Achillies27 unless he takes the old English player's position for the replacement game 2. Looking for a role-call for those playing the game.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
05 Jun 12 UTC
How Webdip saved my life, I joined this site on January 6th
......the last 5 months since I joined this site my life has turned on it's head
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