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Friendly Sword (636 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
The Balkans is not worth the bones of one Pomeranian grenadier!
New Game from Friendly Sword!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10192
Only sixty points to join!
Anyone looking for a fun, Bismark-inspired time is welcome.
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smokybarnable (1141 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
Is this a standoff?
This is a newbie question, I know, but what happens if Power A moves unit A1 to a space occupied by unit A2, and unit A2 is sent against Power B's unit B1, while unit B2 has been sent to the space occupied by A2, and is supported by B1. Is this a standoff as I suppose?
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airborne (154 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Live Game Tomarrow?
Anyone interested?
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juggernaut1001 (208 D)
16 Apr 09 UTC
Newb questions
1) Is there any way to recolor the army/navy units on the map to match their country of origin?

2) If you input orders but do not finalize them - and then the timer runs out - do your units hold or go with their last set of marching orders.
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jimbojones (100 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Can you hand over a country without going into civil disorder?
Is it possible to hand over your country, in good order, to another player without sitting around for three turns and going into civil disorder first?
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cteno4 (100 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
Fun with Welfare
It just occurred to me that I would have a lot of fun going to the grocery store to buy a two-liter bottle of diet coke and a pack of Mentos -- nothing more -- with food stamps.
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Malleus (2719 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Draws in WTA
I just found out that you can draw in a WTA game. Does that kinda defeat the purpose of WTA?
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IKE (3845 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
3 questions
1.I was watching my wife cut the grass while I was drinking a beer & playing with my 3 year old son. A bad thing?
2.While she was cutting the grass, I thought to my self, if I supported my wife from the drive way she would get the job done faster. Diplomacy on the brain?
3.At least I was not playing diplomacy while she was cutting the grass right? Sorry, had to share:)
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sherekhan (100 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
What is civil disorder?
How does a person's country turn into civil disorder?
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flashman (2274 D(G))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Spam
Anyone got any good suggestions for how to stop it?
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Mr. Burns (0 DX)
18 Apr 09 UTC
Unjoin a game?
Is there anyway to unjoin a game before it starts?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Ghost-Rating Challenge Game Three
Braveheart, Centurian, DipperDon, djbent, Ivo_ivanov, MadMarx, stratagos
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thejoeman (100 D)
16 Apr 09 UTC
Check this thread if you are one of the people listed below
onar, vamosrammstein, ukla, intergalacticp, tboin4, conquertheworld
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Shrimpy (100 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
New Gunboat Game
-72 hour/phase
- WTA
-100 (D)
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fullautonick (713 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
New game-100 point pot
Happy go fun time!


http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10171
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ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Apr 09 UTC
What is the Objectives of Diplomacy?
See inside.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Objective #1: To win (obviously)
Objective #2: Is what???

A. To gain as many SC's as possible?
B. To prevent "x" player/alliance from winning?
C. Other??
ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Objective #2 is assuming you cannot achieve #1, for mid-end game.

I'm in some games where I cannot win and I have a choice to gain SC's or to "help the cause" where I may "help" but lose out of SC's... which in the end I'm still not the winner or draw"er"
ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Apr 09 UTC
( and yes, I know the correct title is "What ARE the objectives.." but I switched it to plural at the last second...)
Knights Dawn (100 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Basically, try and get a /draw between the remaining nations. /draw is code for which you may cast a vote. Type '/draw' in the global forum to put one up
Chrispminis (916 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Well it depends. If it's PPSC, I would say you want to get as many SC's as possible, or a draw of equal or greater value.

I prefer WTA, and I would say that the secondary objective is to not let anyone else win... though this really falls into the first one.

A draw is acceptable if there is a stalemate or if you're a minor player unlikely to snatch a win because you'd be profiting from those chances if your chance to win the pot is lower than the pot split amongst the players remaining. Eg. You profit from a three way draw if your chance to win the game at that point is less than 1/3. This typically means that someone has a greater than 1/3 chance to win the game and is losing out by accepting the draw.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Apr 09 UTC
But outside of this site, where there are no points or pots. What was the intent of the game developers for the people who will not win or draw?
Ukla (390 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
The object of the game is to win or draw. If you can't win, then you force a draw any way you can. That's it. There is no credit for anything other than winning or drawing. (Unless you are playing PPSC like Chris said, but we aren't talking about that.)
Chrispminis (916 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Well apart from F2F tournaments which have their own method of scoring, I would say that the objectives are really the choice of the individual player. I would say that it's roughly to maximize satisfaction in having played the game.

For most people, especially initially, that will probably come from winning the game, but this could change depending on how unrealistic that goal becomes or how eccentric the player is.

If winning becomes unlikely, players will likely shift their goal to getting a draw, surviving, helping out an ally or someone they like (perhaps for some meta-game exchange, like a date or a beer), or spiting an enemy.

Other objectives include trying not to tell a single lie, outdoing another player either out of spite or for reputation, trying to get the most meta-game benefit, making friends and socializing, getting a super long convoy, trying to tell only lies, forming tiny stalemate lines and hiding in the shell, etc.
Ukla (390 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Ah, Chris. Now you are walking in my yard. You are talking about perspective, which I have droned on and on about in other threads. I agree with you absolutely. We all have different motivations for playing and for doing the things we do in-game.
But, I think the answer to ag's question is win; failing that, force a draw.
Pandarsenic (1485 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
For me:

1) Win
2) Barring that, force a draw
3) Get more SCs for my allies if I do win.
4) Get as many SCs as possible
5) Take SCs from those who damaged me most or made bad decisions.
Ukla (390 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Yes, Pan, I hear you, too. But, ag's question is..
"But outside of this site, where there are no points or pots. What was the intent of the game developers for the people who will not win or draw?"
I say that your points are valid, as are Chris's. But, the answer to ag's question is only win; failing that, force a draw. Those are the only objectives of the game.
Play to have fun.
Stimulate the mind.
Meet friends old and new.
Earn bragging rights or raspberries.
Enjoy the company of others.
And, crush them all like bugs.
Ukla (390 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
This is a consipiracy, isn't it? You guys are trying to make my head explode, right?
/sigh.. LoL..
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
I doubt that you'll get a unanimous vote for your "/sigh" Ukla. I'd play for a draw...
OMGNSO (415 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
I have to agree that drawing is the best option, but it is so difficult at n00b level where everyone attacks anyone but the guy on 14 centres.
Babak (26982 D(B))
17 Apr 09 UTC
i'm with Ukla on all points... the other extranious suggestions are more about the purpose of life... they read like a self-help book =P

except crushing all like bugs... that's actually in the rulebook !
Onar (131 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
I have to agree with TMG. Fun comes foremost, even before winning.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
This is not gardening - winning is a major part of the fun :)
flashman (2274 D(G))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Yep, cutting down the tall poppies and destroying the weeds until one colour covers the map... Definitely a game for gardeners.
iMurk789 (100 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
for me its
1)have fun, which is usually by winning
2)survive as long as possible, going down kicking and screaming
3)make the rest of the game as miserable as possible for somebody who attacked me when it hurt us both
Chrispminis (916 D)
18 Apr 09 UTC
Haha Ukla, you can't seriously believe that objective relativism (how's that for an oxymoron) is an original idea from your part. =)

My serious rule is:
1. Win
2. Don't let anyone else win.

But I can usually be persuaded to try out something fun, like a wacky manoeuvre, an unorthodox alliance, or a strategic theme.


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gipperbr (179 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Retreat Rule Question
Can a unit retreat to a territory that is was attacked from? For instance, let's say that Bulgaria was attacked from Rumania with support from the Black Sea. For the adjustment phase Rumania is now empty. Can the army that was in Bulgaria retreat to Rumania? Thank you for your help.
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Highest year reached?
Just out of interest, what is the latest date anyone has ever seen reached in a game on here? 1930's? Later?
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ThomasB (742 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
(WTA 101/24h) Any takers?
I would like to create a WTA 101/24h game if there are enough people interested. Just reply if you would join.
Thanks!
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Ghost-Rating Challenge Game One
Babak, MadMarx, Rait, rratclif, Spell of Wheels, TheMasterGamer, wooooo
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
16 Apr 09 UTC
New Game: Hall of Fame Challenge
Amended buy-in: 2,000+ point pot
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Ghost-Rating Challenge Game Two
abgemacht, DipperDon, flashman, FortKnox, Ivo_ivanov, stratagos, yellowpajamasson
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kwany111 (100 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
please join my game
please join my newbies 2 game. I want to practice this game with others that have the same skills as I do.
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Royus Markham IV (100 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
Join this game please (new game now)
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10159

we only need a couple more!
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Babak (26982 D(B))
16 Apr 09 UTC
New WTA game: "For 'Bo' (the dog)"
75pts - 32 hr deadlines - Winner Take All
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10130
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ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Apr 09 UTC
Support Question
Can I support an ally's unit to attack my unit? For example, my A Naples support France's F TYR against my A ROM?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
16 Apr 09 UTC
Tournaments in 2009-2010.
Just to fill people in on what tournaments there will be, there are planned:
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vamosrammstein (757 D(B))
15 Apr 09 UTC
Spain/Portugal
What happens if there is a fleet in Portugal, and a fleet on the South Coast of Spain. The fleet in Portugal moves to the North Coast of Spain, and the fleet in the South Coast of Spain moves to Portugal. Do they bounce, or does the move work?
(this would also apply to Bulgaria/Constantinople)
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
15 Apr 09 UTC
New Game: Ghost-rating Challenge
2,000+ point pot, see selection process below.
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Kea (254 D)
17 Apr 09 UTC
New Game, Newbie-8, players welcome, SLOW game
Newbie-8 Spring 1901, Pre-game
End of phase: 3 days
Points-per-supply-center
72 hours/phase: Very slow, Pot: 15
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