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Chainmailler2 (100

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18 Jul 08 UTC

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Come on join, "congress of vienna"

you know you want to......

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19 Jul 08 UTC

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Two new low pot games.

ABC Auto-Industry: Points-per-supply-center. Bet 5.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4690

Time Zones: Points-per-supply-center. Bet 10.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4691

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RogueMcGyver (455

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18 Jul 08 UTC

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Draw Game Request

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4471

A game I could probably win, but medical issues interfere. Others to confirm I guess.

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Zarathustra (3672

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14 Jul 08 UTC

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Teaching New players

I was playing a face to face game where about half the players were new to the game. There was some discussion as to whether it is better to teach in person or online. While I agree that it is easier to demonstrate the rules in person, I believe it is easier to master the rules using something like phpDip where you are told what the legal moves are. My primary reason for this believe is that a number of moves that were written down were canceled because the move was invalid. It felt unjust to punish those players for not having mastered the rules but it equally is important to reinforce that the written orders are of paramount importance and must be written correctly to avoid ambiguity. I am interested what everyone's thoughts are.

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Black Cherry (100

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19 Jul 08 UTC

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Random!.

We just started a new Random game and we need 4 more players.

To enter the game costs 20!

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4688

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19 Jul 08 UTC

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Endgame started

To anyone interested. I have started the game "Endgame" Only 5 points to join. This is primarily intended for novice players like myself.

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18 Jul 08 UTC

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Join! "You can't stab me if I have no back!"

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4674

51 points to join, and we need three more players. Entry to the game ends in just over two hours.

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15 Jul 08 UTC

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to Edi Birsan

I get the impression from your posts that you are an old hand at this game and are very active on the dip pouch site and diplomacy game world in general.
so i was wondering what you think of this site? how does it compare (the players i mean not graphics or code) with dip pouch and other places?
what variations are popular on dip pouch and other sites? we sometimes play no press/gunboat and team (2 or 3 team) games.

just interested in your thoughts.

oh ...and join a game!

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el_maestro (14722

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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New Game <In Memory Of Marcus Tullius Cicero> for 75

New Game <In Memory Of Marcus Tullius Cicero> starting within the next 24 hours for 75 credits

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RogueMcGyver (455

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16 Jul 08 UTC

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Fast Games

Has anyone tried to get through a game in an afternoon/day online here?

That would be something I'd like to try in the future, if anyone else is interested...

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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Strange coincidences in login times

I am not accusing anyone, but the fact that two players in this game (England and Italy) disappeared for 3 days, with exactly the same last login date and time, and then reappearing 3 days later within 3 minutes, makes me think, what strange coincidences there are in life. :-)

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4619

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16 Jul 08 UTC

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Web Site Improvement Suggestion

Under "Games", there are currently 4 tabs:
Your games
Joinable
Active
Finished

Would it be possible to split "Joinable" into something like "New Joinable" and "Existing Joinable"? "New Joinable" would be games which have not yet started, and "Existing Joinable" would be where you take over countries in civil disorder.

I ask for this improvement since I don't like taking over countries in civil disorder. I find the most exciting time of the game is the first year. However, 90% of the Joinable games are always civil disorder joins and I get frustrated having to sift through them to find new games starting up.

Just a suggestion :)

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TheGhostmaker (1545

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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Game 4322 Error

I cannot open this game, Error triggered: A database lock (4322_map) could not be taken.

The database may currently be overloaded, please try again momentarily..

This was probably caused by a software bug. The details of this error have been successfully logged and will be attended to by a developer.

Thanks Kestas

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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How often do you check your games?

I'm pretty much permanently on phpDip. Granted, sometimes I log out, so people are less inclined to "chat" with me about tactics. But sometimes I never leave. How often do you check in?

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WhiteSammy (132

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15 Jul 08 UTC

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Its Just A "Board" Game...Right?

I would like to take this time to poll the phpdiplomacy audience for the most demented thing that someone has ever said to them in a private or public chat.

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KotBegemot (100

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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New

Hi,

I am new on this site. How can I start a game?

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16 Jul 08 UTC

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Check out this multi-account game!

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4640

Debatable whether or not to report it since only 35 points are in the pot.
Odd that one "player" has gone CD. :)
Still...

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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Unit placing error

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4626

I am Germany and Berlin // Munich stayed vacant even after I ordered to build Armies.

What can I do?

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RogueMcGyver (455

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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Draw Game Request

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4477

England & Turkey at 17 SCs each. England will post.

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17 Jul 08 UTC

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5 centre CD Italy with prospects

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4585

Strong France, strong Russia, England falling to France, Germany falling to France/Russia, Russia/Turkey at war. Russia has been vulturing Italian centres, but you could stop that fairly easily.

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butterbean (100

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16 Jul 08 UTC

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summer scholar

5 dollar bet... anybody's game

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Modesty_Johnson (489

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16 Jul 08 UTC

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Unfinalized orders carried out?

I'm sure this has been answered before, but I can't seem to find it. I

n game Move Along Now (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4490) I have for the last two turns observed Austria to have the red X indicating unfinalized orders as the game reported being "Due Now". Furthermore, the game reported that Austria's player was not logged in at that time. And yet Austrian units still acted upon apparently valid orders.

Does the game carry out entered but unfinalized orders, then? I had been under the impression it didn't, but...?

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EdiBirsan (1469

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14 Jul 08 UTC

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Face to Face/ Tournament Diplomacy

There are a host of world wide face to face tournaments for Diplomacy.
Are any of you interested in these?
The World Diplomacy Championships will be held in Austria next month and
next year the event will be in Columbus Ohio at Origins. Anyone interested can contact me.

Does anyone want local contacts for face to face social games.
Contact me..

EdiBirsan at Astound dot Net

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16 Jul 08 UTC

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Game "Beginners-2" Year 1906

Even though Italy and France got new SC, there was no build phase. What happened there?

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15 Jul 08 UTC

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We need another player desperately!!!!

Game: No Press 23!

England went into CD and it is slowing down the game. If anyone is interested in No Press, please take over England and do NOT send individual messages to anyone and the global chat is okay as long as you don't discuss the game at all...

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13 Jul 08 UTC

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Why I Love Plagiarism, by Pandora and Sicarius.

http://crimethinc.com/texts/atoz/shoplifting.php

http://crimethinc.com/texts/atoz/shoplifting.php

http://crimethinc.com/texts/atoz/asfuck.php

Did anybody ELSE notice the pronounced difference in writing styles, and use of punctuation between S's & P's long rants and their other comments and postings?

I rule.

mapleleaf (0 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

http://crimethinc.com/texts/atoz/difference.php

Jerkface (1626 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

That's funny you went to all this effort. It's something I had noticed upon first encountering Pandora here. They don't consider it plagiarism. In fact, apparently they could very well have written the content you cite. This, more than anything else, is the reason I have dismissed their ideas.

mapleleaf (0 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Sorry, jerkface. I'm not buying it. I, too, briefly considered the possibility that they may have written those diatribes.

If they had, they would have simply provided the links, as I did. All the better to spread the word, no? They promote themselves as these great anarchists, right? Can anybody provide a reason why they would NOT wish us to know about this website, other than the fact that they are lifting it's content and attempting to pass it off as their own?

Also, the aforementioned use of punctuation, and the correct spelling utilized in the plagiarized rants.

They are far too lazy and incoherent to compose any argument of length.

Karkand (2167 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Hah!

Excellent sleuthing.

I say ban both S/P. ( Who are in fact, the same person)

Tucobenedicto (100 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Hahahahahahaha

Oh wow.

Jerkface (1626 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Except they DID refer me to these sites. Months ago, Pandora linked me to this when I expressed interest in this stuff.

sean (3490 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

kark, once again pandora and sic are NOT the same person. they have been quite open about the fact they live together and despite what ever problems people have with their political views multiaccounting is NOt one of their sins

canute (0 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Maple-

Most of us have moved on from the last few months personal attacks.
You, obviously have taken delight in the fact neither Pandora nor sicarius are around to defend!!

Grow up old man...
It's time for the old to die out and the new to take over.
It's happening all around us...
Are you just old or will you BE a wise OLD man...
Racist to a fault, non accepting and much more, you really ought to focus on the game and not attacks on people.

I have attacked you on occasion, with good reason, and maybe not always justified.
However i accept that fault, and am not interested in attacking you mapleleaf, just defending the rights of those who are away and won't see this before it's archived....

Leave it be..

canute (0 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

I agree with Sean, for once

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

In answer to the original question, I assumed that we were working on the assumption of plagiarism, especially when, a few months back, Pandora kept referring to "her" essays...

Incidentally, can anyone tell me the original meaning of the word plagiarism without Googling, Wikipediaing or the like? The answer is quite interesting...

Pandora (100 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

I never claimed I wrote these. I might have referred to them as mine by a fruedian slip, but I have said they they are not all mine. besides I've contributes stuff to crimethinc before. and I HAVE provided links to this website. I can give you many others if you like.
besides idk how the fuck you can own an idea.
it's like paul mccartney suing somone for humming yellow submarine

heres a link for you
http://last-straw.net/2006/06/plagiarism-and-intellectual-loot/

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Go on, what did plagiarism mean originally, without cheating and looking it up...

mapleleaf (0 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

canute. They ARE around to defend, you idiot. I've posted my views on racism. Ageism is nothing to sneeze at either, jackass. The only thing that those two young people will ever TAKE OVER is a jail cell. I've got at least another ten to fifteen years of work left in me, so excuse me if I don't step aside just yet.

flashman, as usual, is on the money.

Freudian slip? You're out of your depth with that comment, Pandora.

You can own an idea when you come up with it, and publish it. People then cite your work as a reference. It is not even remotely like humming a popular tune.

You pathetic slattern.

Treefarn (6094 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Freudian slip? Are you sure you are using that term correctly?

Treefarn (6094 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Your unconscious desire is that you wished you wrote that? You've lost that much grip on reality?

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

She's covered on that one, she said Fruedian...

Jerkface (1626 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

I don't know what plagiarism is AND I'm too lazy to look it up. Can anyone enlighten me?

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

...Taking (stealing) someone else's work and presenting it under your own name...

It is useful to describe theft of intellectual property. However, my question was about the original meaning of the word.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Plagarism's etymology is from plagiarius, meaning kidnapper or thief, I think, so that's my guess.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Martial I think used plagiarius to mean "literary looter". That is, if my farther recalled correctly from his school days when he mentioned it.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

father not farther...

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

You win five pounds!

Yes, kidnap.

Or rather, your father does.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

The Martial bit is what I knew from my father, the other bit should be credited to my Latin teacher :P

When I do get a FTF game with you (so I am looking forward a few years) I want those five pounds...

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Merchant of Venice?

aoe3rules (949 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

flashman: it's not "wikipediaing", it's "wiking".

flashman (2274 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

I stand corrected,

or is it erratumed?

; )

cteno4 (100 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

"wiking", which would be pronounced by the Germans as... Viking.

Tucobenedicto (100 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

I like how Pan/Sic said they were leaving over a week ago and still manage to resurface every few hours.

canute (0 )
13 Jul 08 UTC

Tucobenedicto- that's what i meant to Mapleleaf when i said that they weren't around to defend themselves... clearly they are.

Apologies on that one Mapleleaf.
Hadn't realised they were still here since their post aobut leaving.

Chrispminis (916 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

Ugh. I was actually impressed by 'their' writing, giving them some intellectual credit for having the writing skill to come up with those works. Sigh, only to find that it was stolen. I suppose articles condoning, exonerating, and elevating theft warrants it's own ironic theft. But this latest sleuthing of mapleleaf's really does reduce all credibility and respect I may have attributed to the two. For shame...

And excellent detective work mapleleaf. You may be callous, but you're certainly efficacious. =D

Katsarephat (100 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

Ah, this explains the lack of any good response to my counterattacks (and those of everyone else). She didn't understand what it said except that it was basically what she would like to say she believes, expressed far better than she ever could.

Well done, mapleleaf.

El_Perro_Artero (707 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

Chrispminis! You used my favorite word, "efficacious!"

Kudo's to Mapleleaf. I did think that that giant essay did seem a little out of S&P's character. I'd say Mapleleaf's dealt the deathblow in this argument. With the permission of everyone else, I'd like to proclaim him undisputed champion of this bout.

xgongiveit2ya55 (789 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

I was actually rooting for Pandora and Sicarius until this; kudos, mapleleaf. I second El_Perro_Artero's notion for mapleleaf as undisputed champion.

Jerkface (1626 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

Not that it makes much difference to me but I had already discovered this earlier. I, too, used to give some credence to their arguments but discovered very quickly that they lacked the ability to debate beyond an initial statement.

I had an argument with Sicarius about the ethics of reposting previously published material. I say it's iffy, at best, and he says it's totally legit since the ideas are so damn good.

Modesty_Johnson (489 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

Mapleleaf -

I admit I'm a little late to this party, but it sounds like you are accusing self-professed anarchists of not respecting intellectual property.

Perhaps you should also accuse snow of being white? :-)

flashman (2274 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

Snow is a shade of gey (or gray if you prefer...) ; )

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

I prefer grey.

I could still parody it though. I might parody every other article on there if I get a really bored day...

Pandora (100 )
14 Jul 08 UTC

hmmm. I suppose I havnt been representing myself very well intellectually on here. I would like to have some of these debates in earnest, but I dont want random people to throw in insults or to just stir things up.
so if anyone is seriously interested in debating my ideas with me, me and not a copy pasted article, then let me know and I'll give you my email

Pandora (100 )
15 Jul 08 UTC

mmmm kay so everyone likes to tear me down, but not give me the chance to prove myself?
well I'm going to crimethinc
I'll be back in awhile
if anyone DOES want to
email [email protected]
thats our shared email.

I'll be very dissapointed if this turns into an inbox full of hate mail.
be adults please

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
15 Jul 08 UTC

Why do you need to turn to private messaging to defend yourself?

Jerkface (1626 )
16 Jul 08 UTC

I feel a little bit like i SHOULD e-mail you but, at this point, about 98% of the entertainment I get out of this is reading your stuff in the context of everyone else's chatter, too. I wish we had continued our chat a few months ago in those brief first couple of days when I actually took you seriously.

Who's been depriving you of your chance to prove yourself, anyway?

El_Perro_Artero (707 )
16 Jul 08 UTC

php mail function anyone? Let the jokes begin!

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15 Jul 08 UTC

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civil disorder

What happens when a country goes into civil disorder? More specifically if nobody takes over the country does the game go on regardless according to the CD rules (all units hold, no builds, dislodged units disband etc) or is the game held up until someone takes over?

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14 Jul 08 UTC

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10,000 PPSC game

1429 points from each to join. Anyone interested?

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15 Jul 08 UTC

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Kestas, I think I found a bug.

I got a message from the game mmmmmgggrlll that I earned 12 points, but I did not get the points. I took over a country in CD here, and I'm wondering if the code changes caused this.

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15 Jul 08 UTC

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Potentially Disasterous Bug

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4458

When I went to check my game, the initial page that loaded displayed the chat between the Russian and Austrian players. I am playing England... Luckily this game is nearly over and I caught just a fleeting glimpse before I realized the problem and switched chats, but in another game this could have been disasterous.

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