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Randomizer (104 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
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Republican Family Values
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/politics/tim-murphy-abortion/index.html

It doesn't apply to them in private. Abortions for their wives and mistresses. Extra marital affairs and Newt Gingrich wanting oral sex so he can truthfully say he didn't sleep with her.
JamesYanik (548 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
In other news, Republicans' close business affiliates bought oil during a war, while controlling the proxy government in which they were buying oil from.

Also Trump in all likelihood raped a woman. and people just kinda... stopped talking about that
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
05 Oct 17 UTC
And that’s just at the federal level. Take Ralph Shortey, classic evil person, for example.
ubercacher16 (185 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Those good old republicans. Gotta love em.
JamesYanik (548 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
you really don't
CroakandDagger (718 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Yeah, it's despicable how republicans can be so disgusting.

Like that Clinton girl, talking up the feminist angle but taking donations from oppressive anti-woman regimes in the middle east behind closed doors. Damn republicans.
ejb0527 (354 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Just gives House of Cards more material to work with.
JamesYanik (548 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
@Croak

Many Dems can be shit and many Republicans can be shit too. The two aren't mutually exclusive
CroakandDagger (718 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Correct. Which is why I think that people choosing to focus in on republican crimes with laser precision and overlook the majority of democrat ones is an interesting phenomenon of American politics.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
05 Oct 17 UTC
Actually, the party in power at the current time is the one whose ability to abuse power is the greatest, so you should focus entirely on their crimes.

Not as big a deal if the Senate/Congress are split, or if the President's party doesn't control both the legislative and executive branches. A much bigger deal if the President's party control all three branches of government...

It is usual in parliamentary democracy to find the party in power loses popularity, no matter what. Someone who voted for them will be unhappy with them not living up to certain promises (you can't please everyone all of the time). And outside of two-party systems, there are usually options on both sides - so you can break to the left or right of the party in power...
MajorMitchell (1153 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Don't worry C&D, there are plenty of people capable and willing to focus entirely on what they regard as the faults and "crimes" of Democrats and ignore the same behaviour in Republicans. .No one group has a monopoly on hypocrisy.
Zach0805 (100 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
All polticians can be terrible, however the modern conservative ideology is better than the modern loberal ideology.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Some democrats are corrupt.
Some republicans are corrupt.
More republicans than democrats are hypocrites.
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
05 Oct 17 UTC
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That is an opinion not a fact.

But another entire thread attacking a group that goes untouched by the mods.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
05 Oct 17 UTC
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Politicians aren’t people.
Ogion (3878 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
With attitudes like that no wonder it's hard to get good people to run for office.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
05 Oct 17 UTC
You mean my statement?
Randomizer (104 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Good people run for office, but it's hard for them to get elected because they won't go as low as the scum that gets elected. That's why you hear about the hypocrites when they get caught.
CroakandDagger (718 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Well, the admins and moderators have a leftist bias, KansasBoyd. That's not news.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
05 Oct 17 UTC
The thread isn’t attacking Republicans as a whole though, it’s calling out politicians as hypocrites.
CroakandDagger (718 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
That would be true if it weren't called "Republican Family Values" and the first words of the thread weren't; "It doesn't apply to them in private."

As it stands, though, it's a gross generalisation about a group of people who the majority here seem to vilify. But hey, discrimination isn't bad when the left does it, so it's okay.
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
05 Oct 17 UTC
It's not like posters (mostly one) have repeatedly called conservatives "racists, white supremecists, knuckledraggers, inbred" etc and Americans as "a-holes" and nothing is done.
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
05 Oct 17 UTC
But of course "more republicans than democrats are hypocrites"
MajorMitchell (1153 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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Whatever we do, let's definitely avoid having a sensible discussion about ways that the rules about political donations, fund raising etc, the activities of paid political lobbyists are regulated, in order to improve the democratic process and system. The technologies now exist that would make possible much better, much quicker public disclosure of political donations, but let's avoid implementation at all costs.
MajorMitchell (1153 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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I assume that I am allowed, within certain limits, to mock, criticise and satarise whoever I choose, including Conservatives. Or are they "special" and a "protected species" ?
MajorMitchell (1153 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Plus, imho, suggesting that the admins & Almighty Mods have a leftist bias, is both innacurate & untruthful. It could be regarded, imho, as a form of vilification in itself. I'm expressing my opinion, not necessarily making a statement of fact.
MajorMitchell (1153 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
At the least, such a suggestion is, imho, unhelpful
CroakandDagger (718 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Get money out of politics by rejecting the corporatist stance of internationalism.

Go ahead. Mock, criticise and satirise to your heart's content, but know that the rules allegedly disallow the making of "threads or posts that are abusive or degrading toward another member, group of members, or other groups of people." I don't really agree with that rule - I think people should have tougher skins in general, but if such a rule is going to be selectively enforced you can't expect people just to ignore that injustice.

It's neither inaccurate or untruthful to state observable facts.

I don't agree that pointing out partisanship is necessarily unhelpful.
Ogion (3878 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
To be fair, it isn't the mods who have a liberal bias, but the code. Any code that makes hate speech out of bounds will have a liberal bias, because hate has a conservative bias.

I can attest that the mods don't have a liberal bias. They got very upset by a statement that racists should be swept from the earth and complaints about "christofascists" also
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
06 Oct 17 UTC
“Get money out of politics by rejecting the corporatist stance of internationalism.”

That so aggressively solves precisely nothing that I don’t know where to begin in talking about the things it doesn’t solve.
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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“Any code that makes hate speech out of bounds will have a liberal bias, because hate has a conservative bias. ”

This is just a plain false statement.

There is just plenty of hate from the left and antifa and to claim otherwise is just plain ignorant.
Ogion (3878 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Limit contributions to citizens. Foreign governments can interfere, corporations can't interfere. Only those who can vote in elections can spend money influencing it

Put in reasonable limits per person.

Done
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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“Foreign governments can interfere”

???
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
06 Oct 17 UTC
I find it funny how people get up in arms thinking about how Russia MIGHT have interfered in the US Elections but have had no problems with the US interfering in elections around the world when the Democrats were in charge.

They just can't face the facts that no matter how bad a choice Trump was, Clinton was an even worse choice.

The Dems had most of the major news outlets behind them, all of Hollywood and the Music Industry behind them and they still managed to bungle it and lost an unlosable election.

But instead of putting on their big boy pants and admitting their faults, they cry and claim racism is what lost the election. You know, those racist states like PA, OH, WI and IA that voted for Obama the last two elections.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Oct 17 UTC
That would be true if it weren't called "Republican Family Values" and the first words of the thread weren't; "It doesn't apply to them in private."

Republicans are a group, but the individuals to whom 'it doesn't apply... in private' are that group's representatives.

They are people who choose to put themselves in the spotlight, as public representatives, they are expected to have be held to higher standards. Criticising them for hypocrisy isn't against the forum rules, at least as i understand them.

If you disagree, please contact the mods.
Randomizer (104 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Republicans in general have run for decades on a family values platform. After the Kennedy clan's infidelities came out, the Democrats haven't tried. So criticizing Republicans running publicly for these values while so many have been outed for not following them in private, isn't a violation.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Oct 17 UTC
@"I find it funny how people get up in arms thinking about how Russia MIGHT have interfered in the US Elections but have had no problems with the US interfering in elections around the world when the Democrats were in charge."

I find it entirely un funny, when you construct a straw man like this, instead of talking to the people - right here on the forum - who you imagine think like this... but infact don't.

You project your favourite ideas onto them so they seem like idiots, and thus you feel better about yourself and your views (whether they are better or not) because you've imagined a non-existance opponent; like when the very same opponents are posting in this thread!
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
06 Oct 17 UTC
So pointing out the hypocrisy of the Democrats is a strawman in response to a statement that Republicans are far more hypocritical???

Huh?
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Remember when this thread was humorous?
Ogion (3878 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Sorry, that's a typo. Foreign governments CAN'T interfere.

And when it comes to interfering in foreign goverments, that's a bipartisan thing. Keep in mind, Bush deposed two governments, and interfered in a number of elections (e.g., in Venezuela) not to mention all the coups done by Reagan and Nixon etc going back more than 100 years.

In fact, generally Democrats are a lot less keen on this sort of regime change business.

@Randomizer, the "family values" has little to do with family values and everything to do with having a euphemism for sexism and homophobia as core planks of the Republican party platform.
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
06 Oct 17 UTC
"In fact, generally Democrats are a lot less keen on this sort of regime change business."

LOL!!!!

Panama in 1941
S. Korea in the late 40's
Syria in 1949
They tried in Cuba in 1961
Brazil in 1964
Dominican Republic 1965
Libya in 2011
CroakandDagger (718 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
No, I don't remember when this thread was humorous.


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jason4747 (100 D)
07 Sep 17 UTC
Baseball and steroids and math
KansasBoyd, better to take our baseball discussion out of the Hurricane/Climate Change as we are juuuust slightly off topic
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MangoDude (118 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
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Known World 901
Why is this variant in the variants list if it is not an option when creating a game. It should either be removed from the variants list or be added as an option when creating a game.
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StevenC. (1047 D (B))
02 Oct 17 UTC
Supporting Spain's North Coast
Can an army in Marseille support hold a fleet in Spain's North Coast?
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brainbomb (325 D)
02 Sep 17 UTC
Super Bowl Prediction Thread
So here we go. We pick who plays in the superbowl and the score.
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Ogion (3878 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
New Catalonia thread
With apologies, starting a new CATALONIA ONLY thread. Discuss!
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Ogion (3878 D)
27 Aug 17 UTC
Forum only gunboat thread
I have had a request to launch the forum only gunboat

Join, or not
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=205265
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Flame (100 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Classic 1898 Variant adaptation
I do the adaptation for 1898 variant. Who knows the author of the variant to mention him in the description. Or it's Hasbro itself?
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Devonian (870 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
Do unrated 1v1 games affect ELO ratings?
Unrated games return the points, but does it also not affect the ELO?
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Anneal (245 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
Does Empire4 (Fall of the American Empire) need to be balanced?
Unless most other Diplomacy maps, Empire4 is not very balanced and a few nations have severe disadvantages that make it very difficult for them to win while others are fairly overpowered. I can explain more if someone wants to ask.
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Ogion (3878 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Hurricane Nate to hit Alabama?
oh, look another hurricane!

This one is tropical depression 16, but may pick up to hurricane strength.
Bo, thoughts?
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Condescension (10 D X)
01 Oct 17 UTC
Rival/hatred game variant
I'd like to play a game mode where each player is secretly given a unique rival (so no two players share a rival), and the only players counted at the end of the draw are those who have both survived and eliminated their rival. A solo doesn't need to eliminate their rival and rivals aren't necessarily symmetrical.
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Oct 17 UTC
In the 21st century...
Is the government right to use violence against its own citizens?

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gyroelongated (100 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Unknown Player in Anonymous Private Game
I'm completely new to Diplomacy and this website. I made a private game and explained to my friends how to join my private match. Though only 2 people say they've joined, I have 3 anonymous players other than myself registered. Is it possible one of them joined twice? I know by the time stamps that it was one of the first two players who joined the game, the times are only a minute apart, and I am wondering if the small time frame is just a player joining twice.
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cspieker (18223 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
HTML hack the "move preview"
Is this why I always lose?
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captainmeme (1589 D Mod)
11 Sep 17 UTC
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Mafia 31: Deja Vu
This thread is for participants of Mafia 31 only.
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Deeply_Dippy (458 D)
02 Oct 17 UTC
Issue #139 (Fall 2017) of Diplomacy World is now available
Highlights include various tributes to the late Jim-Bob Burgess as well as his last ever article, an interview with Siobhan Nolen.

Get it while it's hot! http://www.diplomacyworld.net/
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HBbuc (103 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
Battle for McDonald's!!
Join the battle for McDonald's across the plains of America, the seas of the Caribbean, and the tundras of Canada!!
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
27 Sep 17 UTC
Australian 1v1 Title match
Are you an aussie living in aussie or overseas ( must be Australian not a tourist). I am looking to establish the best 1v1 player we have.
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Hamilton Brian (686 D (B))
14 Sep 17 UTC
Hamilton Brian Invitational
Dippers! I am looking at setting up semi-anonymous ranked WTA games @20 points each. There will be one each of full press, gunboat, and public press. Ideally the RR% will be at or better than 85%. PM me if you are interested in joining. Once I have the 6 candidates, games will be set up and passwords will be sent.
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MajorMitchell (1153 D)
28 Sep 17 UTC
Vale Hugh Hefner
Hugh Hefner dies at age 91. A controversial character, extremely successful businessman, championed some Liberal causes, gay rights, marriage equality, Native American rights, gave many authors a break, eg Alex Haley, but also it has to be said, contributed to the objectification of women and exploited women for financial gain.
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bo_sox48 (5125 D Mod (G))
27 Sep 17 UTC
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Mod Team Announcement
Claesar has agreed to join the mod team. Please join me in thanking him for volunteering to help us keep the site cheater free and wish him well as he sacrifices any semblance of a social life in the name of making webDip great again.
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Condescension (10 D X)
26 Sep 17 UTC
German opening strategy
What are your thoughts on German opening strategy? Apart from the west, how do you try to manipulate the eastern sphere?
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lalalandfg99 (102 D)
28 Sep 17 UTC
How to actually put the commands for a support move?
Hey guys its been a while for me and I was wondering if someone could go into depth about support moves and holds?
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captainmeme (1589 D Mod)
24 Sep 17 UTC
Top FvA Players - What's your nationality?
See inside...
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CommanderByron (863 D (S))
14 Sep 17 UTC
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Official Webdipia Game Thread (Sim 3)
This thread is for players of "Alternative History Simulator 3: A New World"
-All standard forum rules apply
-To join PM CommanderByron and he will give instruction.
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Enriador (100 D)
26 Sep 17 UTC
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[Suggestion] Alternate winning conditions
vDiplomacy has a way to set up "alternate winning conditions", e.g. to customize how many turns are played and/or how many SCs need to be conquered before a winner is declared. For example, we can have a game of Classic running for 14 turns (Fall 1907).
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AnawerCZ (108 D)
30 Sep 17 UTC
links in private massages
Is it legal to post links in messages between countries?
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YanksFan47 (185 D)
28 Sep 17 UTC
Secret Hitler Take 2 Sign-Up Thread
Game 1 has been scrapped, and thus we are trying once more. See inside for details.
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Condescension (10 D X)
18 Sep 17 UTC
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Secret Hitler Game 1
Please only post in this thread if you are playing. Players, please learn all the rules of the game. Watch let's plays or something as well. Ask me questions in PMs ONLY.
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