In honour of this significant milestone I am wiping out 4.454% of the interest accumulated on the UKIP general election bet you have thanklessly avoiding paying :).

What was the nature of the bet? UKIP returned far fewer MPs than some had predicted... Was that it? Did Octavious bet that UKIP would not return 20 MPs and "hold the balance of power" as some had foolishly anticipated?

UKIP polled 12.6 % and got one seat. Lib dems polled 7.9 % with 8 seats, come to that SNP polled 4.7 % and got 56 seats!

Proportional representation anyone?

Did I bet UKIP would have more than 1 MP? I think I did, did I bet some of my diplomacy points? If so how many, where is the thread?

I find calibrating round numbers is tiresome, they're just prima-Donna types, random milestones are worth celibrating.

Not to hijack Maniac's fascinating post, but to respond to fulhamish: a) fuck UKIP.

Secondly, and what I actually wanted to say, is that really there should be one house with constituencies, and one house done by PR. It's an idea that's been floated around in House of Lord reform talk, but there is some worth in having MPs that represent their specific constituents...

There is some merit in having MPs represent constituencies and we need a PR system that can still reflect that. We could have 400 constituancies with all FpTP MPs elected and then add 200 MPs chosen by PR. I like having House of Lords reform, but if we keep House of Commons as FpTP little will change.

a) Ah Socrates D. you give too much away about your personal life by revealing your sexual preferences. Is it anyone in particular you had in mind? Farage perhaps? :-)

As to the rest of your post - I agree.

Sorry, just to add, in response to Maniac, I wasn't saying that the House of Commons should be FpTP and Lords PR. I'm not sure I'm even opposed to a house with PR, and with FpTP, although I'm a tad skeptical. I would think two separate houses, but both having more power than the current House of Lords. Anyways, I will stop boring y'all with these views.

@fulhamish - Farage is certainly the most charming man this side of the pond. And I'm glad that you agree :-).

Of course, just plussed you one. Oh this vitual stuff!

Yuck. Either abolish the House of Lords and make the Commons PR (STV, preferably, but more realistically AMS) and have a unicameral chamber; or leave the Lords as it is. Giving them more power is a no; and fuck senates. Though do the PR thing either way :).

As for UKIP - It's annoying they're pretty much the face of Euroscepticism in Britain. Labour keep asking me, as a loyal party member, to donate to the "Remain" campaign. Very dull. At least the Labour "Lexit" (Leftist-Exit?) Group could email me once in a while eh? I'd donate to them. There's no way I'm donating money to anything UKIP or Tory run though.

Agree Hellenic. Oh for the days of Tony Benn and Enoch Powell! x

Yaa 4454!!! *passes the crack pipe *

fuuc the government. Bring back Monarchy.

careful Maniac. There are monsters out there and just now spammers and webdippers alike are dropping like flies.