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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
England
I hate the opening stages when you're England. Here's why:
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
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Best "Openings"
Post your best opening strategies here.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
Everyone talks about the Key Lepanto being the best opening for Italy and Austria. I personally think its overrated. A Reverse Key Lepanto is a great way to catch the board off guard and work a powerful A/I alliance.

Austria moves A Vie - Tyr in S1901 and takes Venice in the fall. Italy, meanwhile, opens F Nap - TYRR in S1901 then moves to GoL in the fall. A Ven also takes Tri, so Tri is traded for Ven. This makes it look like Austria and Italy are fighting. In S1902, A Ven moves to Pied, then Italy supports Austria to Marseilles in F1902 and retakes Venice.
yassem (2533 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
I don't know if it's the case of changing the class of my opponents or the increasing awareness over time, but seem to remember a time when playing Key Lepanto wasn't obvious af. You could actaully fool Russia and Turkey into thinking there's war. Now it's just useless, and playing as Austria, just dangerous.

Are we talking only A-I openings, or all openings?
Oh man, I want to try that reverse key lepanto in my next F2F game.

My favourite opening is the classic Sealion. But I worry that it, too, has become too easy to spot.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
I think if you're playing Russia you absolutely 100% need to slingshot every time. Its basically a foolproof opening that gives you dominating power in the north while getting a solid ally in Austria in the south. Every slingshot I've ever seen run has resulted in a solo for Russia.
You've done the slingshot with Austria and not Turkey?
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
The "slingshot" I refer to is a R/A. Austria opens A Bud - Rum, which is disbanded in the fall by Russia. Austria then builds a second fleet to take out Italy.
ssorenn (0 DX)
22 Sep 15 UTC
What is turkey doing at this time, twiddling his thumbs?
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Sep 15 UTC
I like some of these, but my favourite Austrian opening is the following:

In spring, you chat to Germany. Tell him Italy is planning to open to Tyrolia; supposedly to snipe Munich, but you think it is to attack you, so you'll be moving Vie -> Tyrolia to bounce it and protect the pair of you, as you're "natural allies". Convince Italy to open with an Alpine Lepanto (shouldn't be too hard). Germany, always worried about the Italian snipe of Munich, should be greatly relieved.

So then in Autumn, you snipe Munich yourself, whilst taking Serbia and Greece for 3 builds, with Italy getting Tunis and maybe Marseilles too, allowing for you to go on a full invasion of Germany with the Vienna army you just built following up in 1902, and maybe a Trieste army too.

The benefit of this is that you never have to scrabble around taking Iberia to solo as Austria - which is always hard due to your natural lack of fleets. Instead, you just power over the stalemate line in 1902 and take all of Germany for yourself, possibly getting into Holland or Denmark soon after.

Every time this is played, I've seen it end in an Austrian solo, usually by the end of 1907.
ssorenn (0 DX)
22 Sep 15 UTC
Never heard of alpine lepanto
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
The best openings usually net Italy and Austria 3 builds each.
tvrocks (388 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
If i am russia or turkey I like to try avoiding a bounce in black sea in the spring before committing to war in the fall, just to confuse literally everyone.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
That's a good move tvrocks. You can also try moving F Ank - Con in the spring and then Con - Bul EC in the fall.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
The Bulgarian Gambit is solid if executed correctly
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Sep 15 UTC
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Sometimes when I slingshot as Russia I like to just rebuild my fleet in Sev.
tvrocks (388 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
If i'm france my favorite opening is lon york, lvp york, edi york.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
To clarify, S01:

AUSTRIA: Balkan Gambit (Galicia)
RUSSIA: War - Gal, Mos - Sev, Sev - Rum
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Russia then moves SEV - ARM and supports Austria to Bulgaria
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Sep 15 UTC
Some of my favorites:

England - Lon >> EC, Lvp >> Yor, Edi >> Nth. If you can negotiate a supported convoy into Belgium and still afford to attack France, do it. If you can't, move your fleet to Belgium and take Norway. In gunboat, support yourself into Belgium and let France either block Brest or vacate the MAO; either way, he can't hurt you in S02. You get an army on the mainland and avoid the mess known as Scandinavia for the time being. It's always there later but the mainland will close up quick, especially if one of them attacks you first.

France - Bre >> MAO, Par >> Bur, Mar S Par >> Bur; MAO >> Por, Bur >> Bel, Mar >> Pie. Negotiate this shit with Italy and rip Germany to shreds. Get English support into Belgium and then build a fleet in Brest anyway if you have two. Two birds one stone. If you only have one, build an army and then take Spain whenever you feel like it. Nobody else is going to take it so you might as well save it for when you need it. The I/F is the most underrated alliance in Diplomacy.

Italy - Ven >> Pie, Rom >> Apu, Nap >> Ion; convoy to Tunis, support France back to Marseilles. Fuck with France, keep them on edge. Take Marseilles in the spring, and if you can't, make sure France has to cover it in the fall. Work with Austria, tear Turkey up, and then pick your next target. Nobody can touch you once Turkey goes down.

Also Italy - Ven >> Tyr, Rom >> Ven, Nap >> Ion; option 1: Ven >> Tri, Tyr S Ven >> Tri, Ion >> Tun; option 2: Tyr >> Boh, Ven >> Tri, Ion >> Tun. Option 1 is an attack on Austria, option 2 is negotiated. Typically, option 2 will have been negotiated from the start, but it's rare that you'll find an Austrian player who will go with it. Another option is to move to Tyrolia alone, follow to Bohemia, and convoy to Tunis, leaving open a lepanto and an indirect attack on Russia simultaneously. With a friendly France, option 2 and 3 are both damn near guaranteed successful.

Austria - Tri >> Alb, Bud >> Ser, Vie >> Bud; Alb >> Ion (Italy moves to Aegean), Bud >> Ser, Ser >> Gre (or Bud >> Rum with Ser support). Takes a lot of negotiation with Italy but absolutely devastates Turkey, particularly if he bounces the Black Sea in S01. It opens the door for a move into the later stages of a key without an Italian army having to move through, though a fun way to play it is to have an Italian army keying as a mutual trust arrangement with Austria in the Ionian and Italy in Serbia.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Sep 15 UTC
Oh, Turkey - Con >> Bul, Smy >> Arm, Ank >> Con; Con >> Aeg, Bul do something, Arm >> Ank. Russia won't appreciate the move to Armenia but hopefully it will get him back out of the Black Sea. You can control the Med this way because Italy can't successfully convoy against you without Austrian support into the Aegean, and with a second fleet build and a little bit of confusion in the spring, you can prevent them from doing anything without getting a fleet all the way to Bulgaria.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
23 Sep 15 UTC
https://gfycat.com/SlowQuerulousAngora
Octavious (2802 D)
23 Sep 15 UTC
Any opening that doesn't leave you with that "I'm screwed" feeling is a good opening.
That's my favorite Turkish opening too! You can also turn it against Russia in a pinch: Con-Ank, Arm-Ank, Bul-Rum in the fall + build F Ank. In Spring 1902, you get the Black Sea, and there's a pretty good chance Russia's fleet will have no retreat options, so it's disbanded.

Or you can use it for a super-jugg: Russia moves Sev-Bla in the spring and Bla-Con in the fall. Turkey moves Smy-Arm in the Spring and Arm-Sev in the fall. The Turkish army can go to Rum later, while the Russian fleet will go to Bul (sc) or Aeg.


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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
24 Aug 15 UTC
New game: "It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver."
Setting up a new game. Semi anon, WTA, FP, 150 D, 36hrs. Come-hither and play!
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Stubie (1817 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
Cut support on attacking a convoy
How does webdip handle the cutting of a support on an attack of a convoying fleet by the army being convoyed?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
Is WebDip allowing advertisers on site now?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GcYYnxsGP9Tx12DRSVjxFrOKfTDvdD9s0lp4RDRBG1A/edit?usp=sharing

This keeps appearing in the Forum... but it seems webdip formatted, because the threads morph around it
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diplomat61 (223 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
New game: Cry 'Havoc' - Ancient Med, Anon, WTA, 10D
New game: Cry 'Havoc' - Ancient Med, Anon, WTA, 10 D
gameID=167688
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yassem (2533 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
I'm back baby!
After the usual break I take during the holidays, I'm back. And I would like to return properly...
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diplomat61 (223 D)
22 Sep 15 UTC
Wait/Delay build
If I choose to delay a build, can I build after Spring or must I wait until Winter?
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keyser42soze (151 D)
21 Sep 15 UTC
Austria Gunboat Solo
Can't resist tooting my own horn a bit: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=166577#gamePanel
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
21 Sep 15 UTC
Pig-gate
Has your country's political leader ever committed an act of necrophilic bestiality?

Ours has, apparently: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/downing-street-stays-silent-over-claims-david-cameron-put-genitals-in-a-dead-pigs-mouth-while-at-oxford-university-10510500.html
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Sep 15 UTC
Article about men who love trans women
I'm not saying anyone here advocates violence against trans people. But violence exists and there are people here who advocate for a society which encourages that violence, see: m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7900302
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stupidfighter (253 D)
21 Sep 15 UTC
Mafia pre-game party thread
You know what, forget this thread. Gonna just stick eith the blackjack and hookers.
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wjessop (100 DX)
30 Aug 15 UTC
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Mafia XII Sign Up Thread
See Inside.
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Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 15 UTC
Playing for a draw?
Is it sad to play for a draw from the outset? Discuss
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diplomat61 (223 D)
19 Sep 15 UTC
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Deliberately abandoning games … why?
Why do players deliberately abandon games?

Not force majeure problems (computer crash, internet out, drunk in a ditch, arrested, etc.). I mean just ignoring the game.
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The Czech (40499 D(S))
20 Sep 15 UTC
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Clocks
Why are most of my game clocks off? Most of my games say now. When I refresh I can see how much time is actually left. Ive reset my computer clock several time to account for the difference and it doesn't seem to work. Ideas?
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Skipper1797 (100 D)
19 Sep 15 UTC
Variant Diplomacy
For those of you interested in playing a webDiplomacy style game with more variants, behold: http://www.vdiplomacy.com/variants.php
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
20 Sep 15 UTC
Capital Region, New York
I am looking into moving to this area of the country for a new job, but I don't know anyone personally. That lives there to ask what they think about it. So does anyone here live (or used to live) in the area arounf Albany up to Saratoga Springs, NY? Did you like living there? Not like it? Any opinions would be helpful provided they are truthful. Thanks.
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
17 Sep 15 UTC
Saudi Arabia

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-juvenile-prisoner-faces-death-by-crucifixion-after-appeal-dismissed-1520047

http://www.rt.com/uk/315707-saudi-child-crucifixion-uk/
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
20 Sep 15 UTC
GB Highlight webDiplomacy Youtube Series Game 1 EOG
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stupidfighter (253 D)
20 Sep 15 UTC
PPSC scoring question
In a draw in a PPSC game, do the number of centers I hold matter for points?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
19 Sep 15 UTC
Boston F2F Sept 19
On red line about to get off at Porter. Updates to follow as warranted.
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diplomat61 (223 D)
18 Sep 15 UTC
Classic game
Classic dip, anon, WTA, min 90% RR 'gameID=167552'
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GaryLee (458 D)
18 Sep 15 UTC
How can this move be done?
I am in a world game, and just saw a fleet move from Ukraine to Poland. How is this possible. I double-checked the map, and also looked at the orders for said country (just to be sure I wasn't seeing an army instead of a fleet). Is there some secret passage I am not aware of? Or am I just dense and missing something? Thanks in advance for any answers you have.
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
10 Sep 15 UTC
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Dutch Open Championship 2015
What: The first Dutch Diplomacy Championship since 2009
When: 7 & 8 November 2015 (welcome dinner on 6 optional) in Amsterdam, the Netherlands

PLEASE REGISTER HERE: http://bit.ly/nederdip2015
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Benjamin Franklin (712 D(G))
18 Sep 15 UTC
Need 2 more for private game
Family slug fest... we know each other and really enjoy beating the tar out of each other... but we need 2 more to brawl. Password =Fatkitty
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=167326
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ssorenn (0 DX)
28 Aug 15 UTC
Latest update from Apple for iPhone and iPad
Is anyone else having trouble with the site after the update?
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Vecna (890 D)
17 Sep 15 UTC
Full press anon live game Saturday afternoon (CET)
Looking to play a live game with full press with at least a few Dutch people this saturday at 14:00 CET, but looking for a few more players. Were aiming for a game with 15:00 minutes phase lengts and good quality play and press, and no nmr's. Just as a full disclosure, I know the other dutch players from F2F - but we havent played together online before and there will be no metagaming between us.
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diplodude (109 D)
18 Sep 15 UTC
Real time diplomacy game starting soon needs players
10 min/move classic
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
18 Sep 15 UTC
Replacements needed
gameID=167337
Russia and Turkey, it's Fall 1901.
Thanks!
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