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StraT^ (350 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
The webDiplomacy points ruleset is almost perfect, but...
No one should be rewarded for a game that fails to produce a victor. Everyone who bought into a drawn game and didn't leave should receive an even split of the pot. Otherwise you facilitate awful situations like " just kill Austria, then draw" or more intricate draw pacts, which favor anyone who lucked into a difficult-to-kill nation like France.
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Sh@dow (3512 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
If we are going to debate WTA vs PPSC and refer to what the objective of the game 'should' be - that is a normative question - which must take into account that the game is supposed to be a fairly good approximation of reality.

In reality, every country in the world wants to be the superpower hegemon in a 0-sum international relations world. However, there comes a stage when a country feels that they can't be a hegemon - not possible at all. At this stage they need to decide whether to stop the hegemon and get a draw or help the hegemon win?? Now, if the country feels that the main hegemon can't be stopped from winning, the country would prioritise survival as their no.1 priority instead of winning after a point. At that point, allying with the hegemon might become the no.1 priority.

So, if the above were taken into account: I propose a new alternative system: Where a survivor allied with hegemon winner would get more points than a survivor non-allied with the hegemon. Such a system would approximate real-life incentives and situations much more accurately.
A survivor would also get less points than a draw since a draw is better than allying with a hegemon
And a winner would get the most points while a defeat gets 0 D.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
22 Nov 14 UTC
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"which must take into account that the game is supposed to be a fairly good approximation of reality."

I'm not sure how much I agree with that statement.
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
"Do 3 players really deserve splitting the pot 3 ways instead of 4 because they spent 5 years eliminating a country? What did they really accomplish?"

Yes. A million times yes.

They accomplished not being the most expendable country. If you get rid of this element you way over simplify the game. You need that tension of who's going to be loyal to the end and who's not, who's a good enough diplomat to convince the other players keeping them in the end draw is the "right thing", the high risk of being able to eliminate that player without tipping the solo.

For most "pretty good" players getting into the final four is merely a formality and laying the ground work for later, the game doesn't really start until they hit the end game. Proposing to a system where a draw is a draw is a draw is only going to see an even bigger spike in draws.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
"Definitely the WebDip points don't encourage running for solo's, it's too easy to climb the ranks based on volume draws alone."

Therefore, webDip points create an out-of-game incentive to draw because they are used to rank players.

I always thought it kind of odd that the game result percentage metrics were ordered thusly in the interface: Defeats, Wins, Draws, Survived. Put Wins up top where it should be and Defeats at the bottom.
kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
22 Nov 14 UTC
I think people would complain just as much if when there are only two people left their points were distributed to everyone who didn't go into CD. People would say "well I'm not drawing, I can keep doing this until the other guy quits" and then it'd be a test of will/patience, not skill.
I'm not sure that I would turn it into a test of will/patience, but I would be more likely to let an adversary i respected win
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
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This particular rule comes directly from how the game is played via the board game rules and will not be changed.


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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
10 Nov 14 UTC
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Webdip Sponsored Seasonal Game Fest!!!
The mods and I are sponsoring a seasonal game fest starting with this month. Details inside!
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Accountancy (303 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
Seasonal Variant Fest: Game 2, gameID=150349
So I know this was mentioned almost a week ago, but I can't find the original thread. We're still waiting on the last player to join this game with less than 24 hours on the clock. Apparently they wanted to join so that it would start on Friday night, well Friday night has been and gone and the game has yet to start...
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
21 Nov 14 UTC
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Who deserves the most +1s? A Friday-existential crisis
Just +1 this!
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Sevyas (973 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
Slow full press wta game
Unfortunately my real life keeps interfering with my diplomacy games. Therefore I am looking for 6 more players who would be willing to play a slow 72hrs/turn game.
Wta, full press, 50-150 D, anon preferred
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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
Question about hypothetical
Scenario below.
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Mapu (362 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
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Conjoined Twins Question
Are my conjoined twin and I allowed to have separate accounts or do we have to share one? And do we have to disclose our status in our games?
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00matthew2000 (454 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
CambridgeWorldDiplomacy
If anyone would like to join a world game, it's called CambridgeWorldDiplomacy. Join in the next ten days.
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Marz (515 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
Meta Gaming
I got a message from a mod accusing me of meta gaming (even though I have never done so), with a warning that I would be punished if I do not respond in three days. I responded almost immediately, but two days later, still have not yet heard back from the mod. Am I at risk of having my account banned while I wait for the mod to respond? I am at a critical juncture in multiple games right now, so that would be really bad. Thanks to anyone who responds.
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kasimax (243 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
observable universe
are there any space people around how can explain this to me? because i don't understand it.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
19 Nov 14 UTC
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I'm buying another gun.
Because having two hands and only one gun is remarkably inefficient.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
World Game 12 Hour Phases
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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
Confused about defaulting to defend
I'm new to this, and am curious-- under what circumstances does a unit that is programmed to move, support hold, or support move NOT do what it's programmed to do, but rather revert to defending itself?

Help please?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
20 Nov 14 UTC
What really irks me about large people
A public service message from your old pal, YJ.

As above, below.
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MagicLantern (102 D)
20 Nov 14 UTC
Autumn fun-5
Hi mods,

Could you possibly check out England and France in this game? It just feels as though something fishy might be going on atm.
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WardenDresden (239 D(B))
19 Nov 14 UTC
New York City as a Tourist
I'm visiting NYC for a couple days over the Thanksgiving Break, and I've got some open space on my itinerary. Aside from hitting up Broadway, where should I go?
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
19 Nov 14 UTC
Would you rather kill or die?
Pretty much what it says on the tin.
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OpTioNiGhT (100 D)
20 Nov 14 UTC
Slow and easy game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=150677#gamePanel
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Zach0805 (100 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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ISIS Beheading
ISIS Beheaded another American but this time its a muslim medical worker.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
The Dominator
Tonight, Dominik Hasek will be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Arguably one of the best, or even *the* best, goalie in the history of hockey.
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metaturbo707 (126 D)
19 Nov 14 UTC
6 hour phase game
gameID=150689
Modern Diplomacy II, Anonymous players, PPSC.
Starts Wednesday 11/19/14 8:00pm.
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Fluminator (1500 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
What's the gender ratio here?
I always assume all players are guys, but I wonder if I should. Are there any females on this site? I get the impression there isn't.
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mumujan (100 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
New player
I'm on the site with my friends, and currently playing a game on slow phase, and would like to join an open game. how do i go about it? I noticed all the joinable games are already in progress, is there anyway to join a fresh game?

Thank you
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JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
1 more join it fun you know
gameID=150614 america, Supa fast
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
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Over-representation on the forum
It seems clear that people called "oscarjd74" are seriously over-represented on this forum. There are around 100% too many of them.

What can we do to address this serious imbalance?
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ANimac (360 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
A statement that everyone can agree on
As somebody who enjoys the frequent debates present on our beloved forum, I propose an experiment to find a statement that we can all agree on. Rules to follow.
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WHATCH THIS gameID=150664
Ongoing live game, incredible!!!
Mods, please, look at this!
gameID=150664
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Your Humble Narrator (1922 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Fat Men Eat More
In the interest of promoting gender equality, I thought it appropriate to provide equal opportunity to discuss men who are fat.
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
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Respect the elderly
I believe that the elderly are severly underrepresented on webDip. Obviously this is because the webDip community is too hostile towards the elderly. How can we solve this problem?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
16 Nov 14 UTC
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Face To Face Game in Bowling Green, Kentucky
Looking for 6 others who want to have a house game in BG, KY. I know there are plenty of us in the region. Thinking early December? Open to discussions about days and times. Post here if interested!
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