BRAD, are you a child, or a machine? No one can be that oblivious.

oh definitely a machine. I am an Audio-Animatronic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpgQQ7PqR0

WTF is Trump doing??? This is the END OF AMERICA, you would NOT BELIEVE how incandescent with purply RAGE I am.

Babies need candy or global warming and nuclear winter. The parks service has a PDF all about it.

I thought the National Parks Service wasn't allowed to post information anymore, though?

https://twitter.com/altnatparkser

Trump is actually the best.

At destroying companies/countries/national optimism

No Trump is actually exactly what america has needed for a long time.

We now have an america of an entire generation of sad drunk art teachers who believe they deserve respect and high pay. High time the trash was taken out :))))

Rip dark chocolate and coffee though...

" High time the trash was taken out :))))"

I applaud your realism giving Trump multiple chins... but that's a fairly dark statement to be smiling about

A great civilization is not kept alive by making easy cowardly decisions.

Every other country in the world does what's best for itself. Yet when USA does it now every fool think it's an outrage. Where did everyone get the idea that USA owes them everything? You've been played, and you've got it backwards.

#MAGA

"... but that's a fairly dark statement to be smiling about"

obviously, I don't actually have to live there. It's all jellybeans and orgasms where i'm from. #MAGA

That's right. The best decisions require clever nuance. Sadly Trump has consistently shown himself incapable of nuance.

@fielder

We should do what's good for us!

1. raise tariffs on trade to protect business and raise gov't revenue
2. countries raise tariffs to compensate losses
3. businesses losing profit overseas
4. internal investment lowers
5. only megalithic monopolies survive
6. America has aggregate losses

I do want America to be great, but shouldn't we try to work with countries to create purely free trade instead of causing these stand offs where everyone loses?

Fiedler.. change is NOT bad. But negative change should NOT be overlooked. To feel that you can't criticize your president, as daddy Jefferson once said, is unpatriotic

James: but your logic is simply wrong.... purely free trade is a naive concept, and would be disastrous.

Wyatt, sure criticise...and expect to be argued with :) The PC brigade don't like diversity of opinion, do they...

ROUND 1

FIGHT

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21715656-trade-tensions-will-mount-destructive-trade-war-can-still-be

To choose isolation in the face of the growing inevitability of globalization would be far more disastrous.

@fielder

I'll admit it's an oversimplification, but higher tariffs unilaterally hurt inter-continental trade. Free trade isn't some pipe dream, FREE TRADE is why we revolted against Britain!!! And yes occasionally a tariff will be reasonable, but these GIANT protectionist spikes from a bunch of populists will only wreck economies.

Trump can fight China through other means, through legal commerce rules, through working with the WTO, but tariffs won't end well.

We're looking at a symptom of a problem. the disease is in our regulatory economy

https://www.ft.com/content/4724e034-e3d6-11e6-9645-c9357a75844a

It'll hurt companies overall, though Fiat Chrysler pretending it's not reacting to Trump at all is kind of adorable.

fiedler you went too far when you attacked my friend brainbomb and i am not joking! there once was something called compassionate conservatism. besides art is part of a civilized society and conservatism must have that in mind as well otherwise we fall into the orbit of stalinism and there is nothing beneficial about that

this will be the last article i post. I found it interesting, and it addresses renegotiating with China, and why Tariffs aren't the proper reaction for Gov'ts to take

https://piie.com/commentary/op-eds/truth-about-trade-agreements-and-why-we-need-them

@CAPT Brad

he's not conservative, he's populist. it's very clear from the way he talks

populism includes art as well. as a matter of fact if you remove all art there is no society. of course the loss a few hollywood liberals wouldn't be missed.

"James: but your logic is simply wrong.... purely free trade is a naive concept, and would be disastrous."

Saying his logic is wrong is like saying 1+1 does not equal 2. The math shows that tariffs always create dead-weight losses.

you know we have internal tariffs, sale tax. if we use tariffs as a revenue source i am on board. especially when it is combined with the loss of our technological advantage. a good stiff tariff on cheap chinese solar panels and anything made there by apple is on my list.

I didnt even know he was referring to me? I'm a cook at a hospital and a manager at Garden Cafe in Omaha. I also dont drink. I also pay taxes and work 60-70 hrs a week.

Just because I dont support a lunatic who bankrupts all his companies and milks the system relentlessly to cover his shit business practices?