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No offense Santa, but when three out of the four games that you were in end in another person's solo, you should take a step back and analyze the situation further before blaming other people... I for one am glad that you haven't made it to the next round.

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4-E is finished (gameID=60586)

That leaves 3 games left in the first round:
gameID=60565
gameID=60568
gameID=62175

Two of them are paused for some reason.

It's the server change. Hopefully the players notice soon.

tinyurl.com/gunboattournament
is up to date. Two new people in the top 21.

I think 35 will be the cut and it will be decide on SC count.
Also, I am shocked that Troodonte is probably out of the competition.

Damn, I thought I was on the outside looking in. Hope going for broke and getting a 4-way instead of 3-way in Game 3 doesn't cost me. What happens if there's a tie for the last spot?

If we really have a supply centre tie for the last spot, I suppose we'll go by most centres in one game, unless someone else has a better idea. (And that idea can't come from someone who might be tied for the last spot!)

If there's a tie for last spot, I will withdraw. I join to help the league out and will not mind giving up my spot to one of the original contestants.

It's funny that both 4-E and 4-F ended in FGT 3-way.

Also, half the solos were achieved by Turkey, nice Turkey!

This will surely upset Eden. ;)

:) But these are gunboats after all, a much more comfortable place for Turkey, well suited to its ability to stab Russia one turn, then jump on Austria in the next and then switch on bashing Italy, then back on Austria... without any serious repercussions :)

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rdrivera2005

Thanks for those words :)
It seems that I'm really not going to make it...

Better luck next time I hope.

Cant wait for round two...

Me *two* (sorry!).

Tie for last spot should be decided on who was most disadvantaged by the country draw. For example if we list France 1, Germany 2, Turkey 3, England 4, Austria 5, Russia 6, and Italy 7 (as an example of how hard it is to play a country) then total up the players in the tie break a player starting as Italy (7) + Russia (6) + Austria (5) and England (4) total (22) would beat a player starting with France (1) + Germany (2) + Turkey (3) + Italy (7) total (13).

I'm sure someone could come up with the definative list of ranking the countries (my list was of the top of my head)

PS I on't be involved in any tie-break so my idea is impartial

I am surprised it looks like I am making it... I thought I was having a rough tourney.

@Maniac, I don't like deciding it based on something that neither of the players had any control over. =/

Hopefully we just don't have a tiebreaker.

@geofram - the players couldn't decide the starting countries but they either did better than par or worse than par

I'm confused. You wanted to decide between two players based on what countries they drew right? That's completely out of their control and ranking the countries would be far too subjective in its own right.

Thankfully the chances of a centre-count tie happening now is very very slim, but I would still like to have "something" in place just in case it does happen. Because any discussion about how to decide a tie will be void once the tie happens.

As it stands, "most centres in any one game" is the best we've got and its been used before. Punishing or rewarding someone for the countries they randomly drew just won't work.

Don't get me wrong, I know what you're saying:

"Player A drew Turkey, he should of done better than Player B that did not draw Turkey and because they're tied, Player B moves on."

But in no way is that fair to Player A. There are too many assumptions taken and too many subjective opinions thrown in about the balance of gunboat. This tournament alone has proven that no one country has such a huge advantage over others that drawing it at the start of a game should disqualify you against a player that did not draw the same country.

I thought Turkey had half of the solos...

underrstood, but no matter what system you now decide upon the players are unlikely to have been able to affected it. How about taking their top scoring game and seeing judging the strength of the opposition based on the oppositions' finishing position. So someone getting a good result against good players goes through at the expense of someone getting a good result against lesser players?

"underrstood, but no matter what system you now decide upon the players are unlikely to have been able to affected it."

But how is "most centres in one game" not something the player(s) could influence?

You run into the same problem when deciding based on "who they played." They had no opportunity to affect that.

Shouldn't the first tiebreaker be number of supply centers excluding those that were "soloed on"? Because if you get soloed on, you really got 0 centers.

I've been including supply centres even if they were from another player's solo. There's a big difference in surviving with 1 centre and surviving with 16, even if you received no tournament points for it.

It's unlikely that excluding said centres would fix any tiebreaker if the players were already tied for centres, but I suppose that would turn the deciding factor as to who takes the 21st slot into "did you get soloed against?"