Crazy talk there, thatonekid.

Yeah, let's respect EVERONE'S beliefs. Let everyone out of the asylums, right? Sorry, but I don't have to respect your beliefs if they're insane.

Hey, God respects everyone's right to believe what they want. It's called free will. And because he does, then Christians should definitely respect everyone's right to believe what they want to. That doesn't mean everyone's view is correct, of course!

Yep, gives us free will, then punishes us for using it.

Greyson, you know what happened to Thomas Moore, right?? ;-) Largeham, no, but he lets you choose to live eternally without him if you so choose.

In fact we have each of us rejected God individually, and collectively as the human race, so he came down himself and died on a Roman cross to pay the price for us. That's what Aslan's dying was all about in C.S. Lewis's story The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.

Of course that's an allegory... but a pretty good one. :-)

Nigee I liked reading your professor post. :-)

well, beheadings are out of fashion so I should be alright

More, the guy who burnt heretics at the stake but claimed he was a humanist? That befits Greysoni well.

la de da

That student ....... was Einstein

Can this thread be re-titled "Unintentional Atheist Comedy?"

Because no offense, Mujus, but so far, every Bible point you've tried to make has done hilariously poor logically...which isn't really so much a statement about you, per se, as your source material:

When your source material is an EDITED book that was chosen by a council nearly 2000 years ago and wasn't a divine creation but, in fact, a bureaucratic creation, created because Constantine wanted a new, unified Christian Bible for his new churches in his new capital of Constantinople (not Istanbul...ah, you get the joke, moving on) and then chosen based on which books those in attendance did and did not want...

The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John get in...

But the Gospels of Thomas, Mary, and Nicodemus don't?

Well, if ALL the Gospels were written after the fact anyway...

Or the old point about free will, which has been rehashed for centuries because, hey! it doesn't make logical sense, in this century or the 1500s, no matter how much folks try and stick a square peg in a round hole...that worked for a while when the Church could have you executed for not believing, now, when people can ask questions and reason without fear of death...

God's vanished in a puff of logic--and retreading the old ideas like this thread has done, with the atheists making the usual well-reasoned arguments and the theists making every excuse for God that no rational person would make for anything BUT something they'd decided before hand to already hang onto irrationally (ie, their faith) and it's funny.

It genuinely is.

OK, so stop me if you've heard this one before--

So Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Vishnu, Apollo, and Richard Dawkins ALL walk into a bar...

(If someone can actually come up with a punchline to that...!) XD

I have got a joke for you Obi.
Dick Dawkins and God were arguing about matters scientific. Dawkins turns to God and says ''I, with some minor help from my friends, am able to make a man from dust''. God replies: ''Prove it''. So Dick bends down and starts to pick up a handful of dust. God then responds softly, as if talking to a child: ''Oh no Dick you really don't understand do you? You have to use your own dust''.

I'm guessing that one's a knee-slapper in fundie circles.

DURR HURR HE CALLED RICHARD DAWKINS A DICK IT'S SO FUNNY HURRRRR

Hey Mujus,

Nice post for the moment. "Love one another, as I have loved you." Put it together as I and Nigeebaby (as a COE member?) have heard often "Love thy neighbor as thyself" are the actual two commandment upon which "hang all the law and that prophets"

So where are we with that? Love one another and basically everyone else in such a way that you would lay down your life for them if necessary. Obviously, that’s not easy to do any I don’t know of anyone (even Christ “If possible let this cup pass from me”) who actually wants that point to come for them.

Putin has a good point and I agree with him wholeheartedly that we as Christians shouldn’t be in the power business. It’s when we are loving and caring for people that we are at our best, and it’s also then that we are closest to Christ’s example. Christ didn’t establish an earthly kingdom, yet people still chose him. Likewise, when we are frightened and try to do through force what we should be doing through example that we are at our worst.

Actually, the joke is pretty funny, and I'm a non-believer... But I guess nobody touches Dawkins and lives.

"Actually, the joke is pretty funny, and I'm a non-believer."

Sure you are.

"But I guess nobody touches Dawkins and lives."

Right, that's it. You all must be dead right now.

Jesus said, Whom do men say that I am?

And his disciples answered and said, Some say you are John the Baptist returned from the dead; others say Elias, or other of the old prophets.

And Jesus answered and said, But whom do you say that I am?

Peter answered and said, "Thou art the Logos, existing in the Father as His rationality and then, by an act of His will, being generated, in consideration of the various functions by which God is related to his creation, but only on the fact that Scripture speaks of a Father, and a Son, and a Holy Spirit, each member of the Trinity being coequal with every other member, and each acting inseparably with and interpenetrating every other member, with only an economic subordination within God, but causing no division which would make the substance no longer simple."

And Jesus answering, said, "What?"

...how is it funny? Dick jokes got old in middle school

And this is how Fulham keeps the forum classy.

Putin, you picked up the wrong Bible. The one you're quoting was written by a sarcastic asshole.

Nobody touches Jesus and lives.

By the way, what is with you Christians/crypto-Christians and your obsession with anal orifices?

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Jesus who? Putin's Jesus? Yuck!!

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@ Putin

So, there's no claim that Mendel wasn't a Christian? If so then he and any number of other Christians who have made advances as scientists are the examples of people who are Christian and don't hate science. I've heard the claim that we're somehow science hating and backward. Most Christians that I have met are neither by my estimation. Like I said, I'll take my son to Sunday school on Sunday and science club on Tuesday without the slightest uneasiness about either.