Doesn't Socrates Dissatisfied have a higher GR than the Balkans' original sub?

I mean I'm OK with HR cheating because he feels inadequate but I feel like we should at least be aware of it.

Soc Diss subbed in for Dejan. Our original sub is for GB only and is still a sub there. Dejan's GR is lower than MadMarx, uclabb, TheWizard, and zultar... and that's it.

More controversy than in FIFA World Cup.

So VI switched from California to Cascadia...ok

You can make whatever, assumptions you think you know about the gunboat games. You won't be able to confirm it anywhere.

Socrates GR is lower than Dejan's, I checked before I allowed it

VI did not switch from California. This is easily verifiable information. Please don't waste my time.

I'm responding to PMs shortly

Who is this BalkiBarkBarkwoofwoof? Never heard of him before. Is he some kind of ringer?

That doesn't sound right, I thought i agreed to Team Canada? All these "C" team names are confusing.

I don't think I've ever heard of or been to Cascadia. It's somewhere in Eastern Europe, right?

Italy actually. Cause I'm Italian.

Pretty sure the instructions were your sub has to come from your sub list and only if he's no longer available can you go look for an alternate. Sounds sketchy, but since I think it's cool to get to experience a rare Socrates Dissatisfied sighting I'll give it a thumbs up anyways.

"Sub is for gunboat only" he says. Oh HR, the crazy things you say...

Well if the sub won't play FP that counts as unavailable ;)

Ok good. I had skeptical thoughts you were trying to make up an excuse and take advantage of a substitute TD to interpret a rule he didn't create in order to shoehorn a better replacement player who wasn't interested or available in being your sub when the tournament began or only liked being on the hook for a more prestigious game.

Apologies for any insinuations of you being a captain sneakypants. ;)

Bumped :)

What is the reason for pause in GB games???

I need more time to think about my moves.

Good or you, ghug. :)
When will the game proceed?

It's been paused for almost a week, kind of annoying.

I know ghug needs all the help he can get because he doesn't think that quickly, but even for him, there's a point of diminishing returns, right?

Hate to bump an insult like that, but I don't want this thread to get locked.

Hey, ghug! Don't worry, I can help you.
Tell me your country then I will send you (privately) the orders you should command!

PAUSE TO PREVENT NMR

The way this works needs improving as it currently allows someone to intentionally NMR to delay the game *and* allows the offender the opportunity to chat with others after the phase should have run out. This rule also penalizes the non-offenders per the following hypothetical scenario:

Player A knows the current phase will end at 1pm, he has sent press to multiple people, and plans to check at 12:15 on his lunch break since he's had a busy morning at the office. Player A logs in to see multiple messages have been sent to him, but someone is about the NMR so the game got paused at noon and the press changed to gunboat rules (so he is not able to read those messages). Player A, with a busy life, now has no idea when the game will be unpaused, and will only have 60 minutes to find out the game has been unpaused in order to send press, and in order for others to read his press (assuming those others figured out when the game was unpaused), as final plans are being figured out.

What should happen when a game is paused due to a potential NMR is that, in the scenario above, the game is okay to be paused at noon, but the game should *not* be set to gunboat press until 1pm so the people that are engaged with the game and planning to chat back-and-forth with others that are engaged with the game have that opportunity for the full length of the current phase. Then, whenever the game gets unpaused the game remains in gunboat press until the phase gets resolved. The pause is to avoid a NMR, not to allow offenders extra time to chat and coordinate orders, and not to penalize non-offenders.

Furthermore, this should be the case whenever a game is initially paused to avoid a NMR, it should *not* be the case that, hypothetically, a delinquent player NMRs on purpose to hijack a game and then requests a pause 24 hours later to get the phase reset and thus get a full extra phase for press.

MM makes good points all around.

This requires a bit more work on the part of the GM. In most situations, though, I would say it doesn't impose an undue burden. Only in situations where it's late at night, really, do I see a potential reason not to follow this. But these are good points and procedures, from my point of view. Ultimately it's yoyo's choice.

Agree with MM, with one suggested change for practicality, since TD may not always be available exactly the minute before the phase deadline to pause and gunboat:

- TD pauses game a safe bit before deadline (so TD makes sure he does not miss the deadline), but then does not "Gunboat" the game until the phase deadline would have ended, or as closely after that as TD is available to make this adjustment.

So, two steps by TD, but safely prevents NMR, and does not punish other players who were trying to send last hour press.

In theory I think these ideas are preferred, I understand that in practice it won't work perfectly, but I especially think these should be the goals for the finals with fewer games to monitor...

So let me see if I interpret the rules correctly. Everybody is allowed one free abuse of an NMR up to 24 hours but must be during TD's awake hours, sound about right?

Just want to be sure we're all on the same page.

Would be curious to hear Yoyo's thoughts, though this is yet another demand on his time that I understand if he chooses to pass on

Would a simple warning several hours in advance, stating the time that the game would be unpaused/unGB work?

Just don't fucking chat about the game during a pause. I thought that was a universally accepted rule here. At least, it should be. Call the jerk out who chats. Burn him.