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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 Dec 13 UTC
Santa and Jesus are WHITE GODDAMNIT, says Megyn Kelly
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/fox-news-host-megyn-kelly-says-jesus-and-santa-are-white-193322244.html
1. We'll leave Jesus being a "historical figure" alone here, that's up in the air (not even saying I don't think he might've been, just saying.)
2. ...Does it REALLY matter if people want a Black Santa? Really?
3. You're gonna tell me a Jew in the Middle East 2,000 years ago had pearly-white skin? O.o Um...no.
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kramerkov18 (1570 D)
23 Aug 13 UTC
Daily Quote:
This is now the official thread for daily quotes. I missed yesterday so I will start off with two. Fill free to post any quote you think deserves attention, but please try and make them meaningful.
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kramerkov18 (1570 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
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"A good scare is worth more to a man than good advice."

- Edgar Watson Howe
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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"I am not young enough to know everything."

- Oscar Wilde
dirge (768 D(B))
22 Oct 13 UTC
"My mother? Let me tell you about my mother . . . "

Leon (Blade Runner)
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
"Advice is seldom welcome; and those who want it the most always like it the least."

- Lord Chesterfield
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
24 Oct 13 UTC
"Trust no Future, howe'er pleasant! Let the dead Past bury its dead!"

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
24 Oct 13 UTC
"Burn them all."

-Mad King Aerys
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
"When all else is lost, the future still remains."

- Christian Nestell Bovee
dirge (768 D(B))
25 Oct 13 UTC
"There is less danger in fearing too much than too little."

- Francis Walsingham
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
^ That reminds me of something Oscar Wilde would say as well. I'll have to see if I can find the quote I am thinking of in my list. Maybe post that one for tomorrow.
Onar (131 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
"Being proud of your country of birth is like being proud to have two nipples."

-Paraphrased from C. Coville
semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Oct 13 UTC
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"Breathes there the man with soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burned,
As home his footsteps he hath turned
From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonored , and unsung."

Scott.
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
"There is properly no history, only biography."

- Ralph Waldo Emerson
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
"Half the world is composed of people who have something to say and can't and the other half who have nothing to say and keep on saying it."

- Robert Frost
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
28 Oct 13 UTC
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"Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."

- Ronald Reagan
ILN (100 D)
28 Oct 13 UTC
^lol I doubt Reagan said that.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Oct 13 UTC
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Actually, yes he did. At a business conference in LA on March 2, 1977 before he was President.
Putin33 (111 D)
28 Oct 13 UTC
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"A conservative is a man who just sits and thinks, mostly sits."
Woodrow Wilson
Maniac (189 D(B))
28 Oct 13 UTC
Wasn't the first profession farming? I don't see the similarities.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Oct 13 UTC
I would say hunter predates farming, and women were prostituting themselves out to the strongest hunters long before fields were cultivated.
Andrew Wiggin (157 D)
28 Oct 13 UTC
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"The enemy's gate is down."
Maniac (189 D(B))
28 Oct 13 UTC
So hunters are the oldest progression and not farmers or hookers?
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Oct 13 UTC
I would say hooker and hunter are equal. Without hookers, hunters had no reason to hunt except for themselves and feeding oneself is not a profession. So hooking prompted hunting to be a profession, but hunting prompted hooking to exist as the women needed to eat but weren't very good hunters so were stuck being gatherers until they figured out they could get meat for sex. Kind of a chicken/egg thing. But definitely not farmers. Agriculture was much later.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
28 Oct 13 UTC
"You guys pick the best topics to debate on the forum."

- bo_sox48
Maniac (189 D(B))
28 Oct 13 UTC
What about spying or reconnaissance, could one hunt before someone was sent out to see the lay of the land?

What about chef? Did someone once cook a vegetable stew or a meat stew made from an animal that died of natural causes before someone started hunting?

What about artist. Did people only start painting in caves after they had hunted?

I think we need a definitive list here...
Maniac (189 D(B))
28 Oct 13 UTC
Childminder? Did a potential hunter leave his/ her children with someone on the morning they first decided to go hunting.

Dressmaker? Did hunters go out with their dangly bits flapping?
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Oct 13 UTC
On your list... One must consider if one did this strictly for themselves or for others and if those others constituted a "family unit". Presumably, the first meal with a hunter that resulted in sex was prostitution (aka a date) but if the date went further and the woman moved into the hunter's cave, is that then a family unit and did the prostitution stop?

The tailor/dressmaker/cook/babysitter... If only family units did it for each other, then it isn't really a profession, now is it? I mean, sure, we have appeased the housekeeper/maid who raises our children (aka our spouse) by calling them homemakers or domestic engineers, but is that really a profession?

As far as recon work goes, would that not be part of the hunters' job, especially if they hunt in groups? There is more to hunting than just killing the beast and slitting its belly open. Just as babysitting involves feeding and cleaning up after the child. One "job" multiple tasks.

But perhaps the fireman (the original one who kept the flame and knew the secret to making it) was the first profession in the early cavedweller days.
Maniac (189 D(B))
28 Oct 13 UTC
What about mother. The pays not great, but the hours are long.

And teacher?

King? Head tribesman

Money and bartering came about quite late so prostitution couldn't be in top 10. Did men really need prostitutes early on? Was sex available without payment for a few millennium?

Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Oct 13 UTC
If sex was available without payment early on, so were all "professions". I would view any profession as being an action involved in a mutually agreed upon (bartered) arrangement.

So the hunter that provides the hot cavewoman with a slab of wolly mammoth meat is bartering with her for a night of grunt grunt.
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
28 Oct 13 UTC
^This has to be one of the oddest discussions I've seen on here in a while. Good to see we're keeping things interesting. ;) Anyway...

"Getting ahead in a difficult profession requires avid faith in yourself. You must be able to sustain yourself against staggering blows. There is no code of conduct to help beginners. That is why some people with mediocre talent, but with great inner drive, go much further than people with vastly superior talent."

- Sophia Loren
Maniac (189 D(B))
29 Oct 13 UTC
Draugnar - my definition of a profession is "Something undertaken for another with the prospect of reward"

The person who mashes the berries for others to drink in return for having a drink themselves is therefore a professional chef.

Look at the animal kingdom, especially close relatives of ours. I don't see much whoring going on. Food sharing, mothering, teaching, child care, yes, but no whoring.

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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
28 Nov 13 UTC
21 million Bitcoins
There are currently just over 12m Bitcoins in circulation. The number of Bitcoins allowed to exist is capped at 21m Bitcoins - once the 21 millionth Bitcoin has been mined, no new Bitcoins will be created.

What will happen when the 21m Bitcoin mark is reached?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Dec 13 UTC
Obama wins liar of the year!
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/13/250694372/obamas-you-can-keep-it-promise-is-lie-of-the-year
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Dec 13 UTC
Jang Song-thaek
Discuss
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RedSteamAge (100 D)
14 Dec 13 UTC
Join my game, and fast
It's called For the win, live. Join, divide and conquer
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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
13 Dec 13 UTC
Libraries > Pie, Baseball
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/americans-still-care-about-their-public-libraries/282250/
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Dec 13 UTC
What a pain in the arse.......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25344219
Gay Aussies getting married ..... not in their own country.
I don't get the opposition to gay people getting married ..... maybe some smart arse on the forum can explain why gay marriage is bad for society !!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
14 Dec 13 UTC
Time Stamp
A time stamp seems like a bit of a weird thing to include standard in a diplomacy game. For the older members, has it always been here? Was there a reasoning behind its implementation?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Dec 13 UTC
Ethan Couch
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/texas-teen-dwi-wreck/
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erik8asandwich (298 D)
13 Dec 13 UTC
Does the NSA monitor WedDip forum posts?
...with Krellin on posting here all the time it seems plausible to say the least.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Dec 13 UTC
Pope Francis = Person of the Year
All of TIME Magazine's 132 subscribers will be invariably conflicted over this one I suppose... but hey, it wasn't Bashar Assad or Ted Cruz - or, Pope Francis forbid, Miley Cyrus!
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
11 Dec 13 UTC
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Call for Players - Sandgoose Second Annual
as per below, Gentlemen
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
11 Dec 13 UTC
You'll never guess what my Biology teacher teached me...
Some not-too-fast girl thought there's oxygen in your urine.
The teacher explained: "there are no bubbles coming out of your wheenie!!" or something like that, roughly translated. She's hilarious.
In all honesty that was a small walk down memory lane, but anyway :)
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
12 Dec 13 UTC
Live Aid
We all understand Bon Jovi was undermining most local African authorities, right? Should he have done it 'by the book' instead? Surely the money could have been spent more efficiently, right?
What's efficient charity? Discuss.
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stiffmaster89 (193 D)
13 Dec 13 UTC
Search for experts
Are you a good player? Come to "professional league". Nothing for beginner
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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
03 Dec 13 UTC
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Abolish the TSA
This editorial was in USA Today (!) and makes a pretty good case - the TSA has never actually caught a terrorist, its incentives do not line up with those of travelers, and the type of terrorism it was designed to deter doesn't actually happen anymore.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/12/02/tsa-department-homeland-security-patriot-act-column/3796127/
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virtuslex (483 D(S))
11 Dec 13 UTC
Manners in Live Games
Spr 01 NMR ==> draw/cancel/end game.
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Skittles (1014 D)
11 Dec 13 UTC
ATTN: Other States in the Union
FROM: Florida
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grking (100 D)
11 Dec 13 UTC
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Inheritance Tax
I an inheritance tax (on sums larger than a certain amount, leaving a small sum to the heirs), keeps the capitalistic system going, levels the economic playing field somewhat, and requires the would-be dependents to go out and work. Furthermore, one who didn't want to pay in the form of taxes could give to the community through charitable donations. This system was supported by Andrew Carnegie in his "Gospel of Wealth", what arguments could be raised against it?
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Randomizer (722 D)
12 Dec 13 UTC
I wish I was this rich if I ever was in trouble
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/7481-rich-teen-avoids-prison-for-fatal-dui-with-affluenza-defense

The son of rich Dallas parents got two years probation at a ultra rich rehab camp after killing 4 people and injured others when he drove at 70 mph into the group helping a motorist change a tire. The kid claimed he couldn't tell right from wrong because his parents bought him everything including apparently the judge.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Dec 13 UTC
When Athletes Fuck Up On Live TV
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/december/amir-williams-remembers-he-s-on-live-tv-just-in-time.html

Self-explanatory.
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MitchellCurtiss (164 D)
10 Dec 13 UTC
Ducks
Comment with any feelings or stories about ducks you may have.
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hecks (164 D)
12 Dec 13 UTC
MLB Cracks Down on Home Plate Collisions
http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10121849/mlb-intends-ban-home-plate-collisions-2015

What do people think about this? Are players getting soft, or is it about time?
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krellin (80 DX)
12 Dec 13 UTC
Global Cooling: A mere 40 Years Ago...
Remember when the Scientific Consence, including NASA, NCAR and other well respected groups of scientists were freaking out about the dramatic weather caused by the new ice age. Ahhhh...good times, good times...
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/1974-ncar-called-global-cooling-the-new-norm-and-blamed-climate-disasters-on-it/
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Dec 13 UTC
How is the Syrian civil war going to end?
Taking thoughts.
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taos (281 D)
10 Dec 13 UTC
simple question
Feet in southarabia moves to egipt
Feet in egipt moves to northarabia
Fleet iraq supports move to northarabia
is it possible?
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Skittles (1014 D)
11 Dec 13 UTC
We need more of a late-night crowd
It's next to impossible to get a live game going around midnight, and even the forums tend to be pretty dead.
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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
10 Dec 13 UTC
Best Music of 2013
What are your favorite albums? Songs? Videos that aren't Blurred Lines?
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Feeniks (694 D)
11 Dec 13 UTC
Gunboat Games
What is the best way to improve at gunboat games? I've been told several times that I am a worthless waste of space. And I would like to become a waste of space with a minuscule bit of worth. How can I bridge the gap? I tend to do better when I can manipulate people into what I want them to do.
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