Also, @guak

Why were you SO confident that I was scum, without providing any reason (besides that you read page 51, without being specific)? Then you go on to write up a case to try to confirm your preconceived notion, citing only up to EOD 1, not the initial reason you found me scummy?

I'm actually very curious about why the people that are so confident on me being scum scum read me. Because the reasons that damian and guak gave are not very good. They just market their reasons with phrases like "Yoyo is as scummy as it gets because..." or "No townie would do that" when I just gave you my reasoning for my actions. I'll wait.

@Yoyo: well clearly you did not read my case. From the beginning it says Part 1. I am doing Part 2, and have not yet finished. At the end I also say I will do the rest of the analysis soon. Also, your defense is terrible as you did not explain some of the scummiest things you did and dismissed others on technicalities like the fact that you mentioned you would reveal your reasons late (something that by itself is also scummy) or by saying I am being nitpicky.

As to why I was so confident, because I know I am town, and that means that mafia could had lynched me if you are town if both scum members switched late unto me. That means that you necessarily have to be scum. p51 reinforced that belief and I will elaborate on it when I finish my case against you.

That being said, I will begin to hunt for the last scum as soon as I finish my Yoyo case. I think Vecna is a possible candidate after rereading because he has been mostly a follower and hasn't really done much for town.

My question is, if you thought that there was a possibility of you dying, why didn't you get to your more better points? (Or at least I hope you have better points)

"I will hunt for the last scum as soon as I finish my Yoyo case"

Woah, I really hope you are scum because if you're town, you should be ashamed of yourself, and you should feel bad.

@All
I probably don't have to say this, but think for yourselves, and don't pay attention to other people who are so sure of themselves.

Wtf is up with you and all these absolutes. If you're town, you know damn well that your case does not make me scum. "you did not explain some on the scummiest things you did" again with the marketing the yoyo lynch. Seriously, what didn't I explain? Give me a list of things you want clarified instead of peppering in quotes that make it hard to find what your actual input is.

And no, I am not scum. I don't know why they didn't decide to lynch you. Probably because the remaining scum wasn't online to switch or something. I have no idea but I can tell you that Im not dumb. I would've bussed the hell out of Espi if I were scum. Or maybe you're the deep threat and you're more valuable to them. I can come up with a million reasons why but you need to actually listen and stop being a cocky idiot. I am not necessarily scum.

What I don't understand is why you thought you'd survive to continue your analysis

@Yoyo ... why did you say that Espi was soft cleared?

Because I figured that the only reason that wjessop would be NKd was to frame Espi. I overthought the entire situation. I shouldve used occums razor but hindsight is 20/20.

How was wj's death a soft clear of Espi and not a soft clear of you then? You two bitched at each other too. How about me? I had just started scumreading him (partially OMGUS, partially because he was grasping at straws in his read of me) - why wasn't it to set up me? That makes no sense.

@damian … yeah, hedged was a poor word to use. Fluffy is better. I don't think there is any purpose in flavor text at this point. Town's not having fun so you're not allowed to either. (insert pouty face emoji here)

@Yoyo … I pointed out pieces of the case that I thought were compelling. Can you respond specifically to what I pointed out? That's what I care about.

@DL … the base of my case against Maniac was that he was playing differently because he was lurking and intentionally avoiding telling us why, but since he actually dropped out, I don't think it holds anymore. Doesn't mean that Maniac/damian isn't scum, but I don't think we can use that point to prove it.

##CALL GM - is there a meteor mechanic in this game? Mafia no-killed first, so then it should be on them after a certain period of time if we simply go back-and-forth no-killing and no-lynching.

Becuase they were going back and forth. People were saying how one of them were scum, so killing of wjessop would've outed Espi. So I'm actually still confused on that kill, but for all we know it could've been random so I won't get hung up over it. There was definitely a difference between my arguements with wjessop and Espi's Artemis with wjessop.

What is the difference then?

Well, it went on longer, throughout D1 and D2. Wjessop also thought Espi was downright scum. So that's 2 things

All right, so what makes your back-and-forth with wjessop and my middle-of-the-night scumread of wjessop so unimportant?

How about I ask this way - why did ghug die N1? Why did wjessop die N2? Were the motivations similar or different?

@Bo
I was pretty ecstatic the town finally lynched a scum, and the leader of the martians no less. If you don't think that's cause for celebration, and and excuse to stop being sad and pouty I don't know what is. I was parachuted into this game, I don't have as strong an investment in the game as the rest of you, if I cannot have fun playing this game, what was the point in taking over. :P

Alright Yoyo, I'm back home with my laptop and I've a few questions I'd like answered. Some of them you have already answered, but not in a fashion I found satisfactory.

1. Lets look back at the end of day 2. Starting with page 40.
Here's what I'd like to highlight.
P40 Yoyo votes for Espi “It seems that everyone significantly improved their play, except guak and espi. ()()VOTE Espi”
p42
Yoyo “15 minute break, can someone give me a quick rundown?”
Bo: gives a quick run down that implies he thinks Espi is the scumiest, with Jeff as a possible second.
Yoyo “Ermm, is any willing to sitch with me onto jeff?”
Espi: “@bo and Yoyo, come on, we can do this. You both join me and Jeff dies.”
Yoyo: “Bo come on ()()vote jeff”

and after the lynch on p46
Yoyo: “Well, that was expected. Can't say that I'm at the least bit surprised.”
Yoyo: “The lynch outcome. I feel that there were 2 townies up for lynch yesterday, Espi and Jeff..."
Yoyo: If you feel like both Jeff and Espi where town, why did you try and get people to shift on Espi, even imploring Bo to switch? I find this particularly suspicious since you where not caught up on what was going on, and misinterpreted Bo's summary. Furthermore if you felt like Espi was town, why were you pressuring him on page 40, followed by your vote for him? When you voted you certainly didn't make it sound like your were voting for one of your town reads.

I'd also like to ask if you have any thoughts on why Espi would ask you and Bo specifically to switch?

2. P50
Yoyo: “@Damian
Well in order to elaborate, can you explain why you're drawing the opposite conclusion?”
I elaborate. Yoyo doesn't replies instead Espi jumps in.
>>Why didn’t you reply Yoyo? I felt like you drew an illogical conclusion from what you stated, and when I asked you about it you left it? Yet you still continued to post as if there was no problem with your town read of Espi.

3. This event on P51
“If it makes you feel better
()()VOTE Espi”
“Correction: I was on your wagon, but not because I thought you were scum.”
>>Why do you care how your vote makes one of your ‘maybe’ scum reads feel? Why aren’t you voting for people you think are scum?

Finally, on P55
Right after night ends Yoyo: “I need to reevaluate my life.”…“I’m so confused.”
Why the anchor posts?

Also... since a mislynch would have killed us yesterday, the only way that Yoyo can be town is if Guak is mafia. If Guak is town, we know for a fact Yoyo has to be scum, since if Guak was town, and Yoyo was town, scum could have all joined the Guak train and won.

I know for a fact that us have a town and a scum up for lynch as the two main trains, is more probable than us having two scum up for a lynch, because there are more villagers than scum. The second lynch candidate had a 2/6 chance of being scum.

Thus, barring a convincing case on Guak I'm willing to gamble on the odds that Yoyo is scum, given that I think he has exhibited other scummy behaviour.

DL pointed out that only he and I were on at the deadline yesterday. Based on that alone, a blitz was impossible since I was already on guak. The only thing that could have kicked it his way is if DL went his way initially.

"I was pretty ecstatic the town finally lynched a scum, and the leader of the martians no less"

There was no leader other than in the flavor. With the cop dying D1, the godfather role never could have been used.

So your argument Bo is essentially, if town Yoyo started the guak train, enough scum might not have been on to take advantage?

I'd argue that the rush from 0-3 votes for guak is a pretty clear sign that scum where on to take advantage on were banking on making it a 50-50 shot for a town loss, with the possibility of trying to influence whichever town member was online.

But. I concede the point, it is possible that both Yoyo and Guak are town. Although I'd put that at a much lower probability than them being of opposite alignments.

@Yoyo: it is like you are not even reading. I said I hoped my initial analysis would be enough as I did not have enough time to finish. I did not know I would survive. In fact, I expected to be NKd. I never said I had 'better' points. Maybe I will find them, maybe not. Either way, my D1 analysis of you has some pretty good points that you have completely failed to address and your dismissal of my case based on nothing is scummy. How about actually explaining your behavior for a change?

Guak, I know you're not this much of an ass as town, so if you are, cut it out.

Your initial analysis is not good. It's bad. Garbage. Booty. Poo. Insufficient.

Like I said, list the things you want to address, because not only is your analysis doo doo, but the structure of the post is doo doo as well, and I don't feel like scouring through your post looking for every little thing you want explained. Put it in a format where I can address them directly.

@bo, I explain myself voting along with my scum reads. It was mainly a reaction test, where I explained that I didn't actually scum read Espi before I change my vote.

@bo

I was actually forced to vote between two of my town reads. I wasn't trying to save anyone. The Maniac wagon failed, so I had to decide between the two main lynch candidates.

"Guak, I know you're not this much of an ass as town, so if you are, cut it out."

What in the fuck is this?

You're never "forced" to vote for anyone. Your vote is yours. You could make it useful by preventing mafia from using theirs in an anti-town matter at the EOD. Did you do that?

Also, I am working three straight 11 hour shifts this weekend, so I won't be around a whole lot.

@Bo
I thought I did at the time. In order to minimize mafia influence, I needed to use my vote it a way that mattered, and leaving it on a dead wagon is the opposite of that. Did I know that Espi was scum? No. Like I said, I town read him because of how everyone jumped on him in the beginning. Now I know that he was bussed, at the very least throughout D3, perhaps earlier.

##GM NOTE

I will not allow mafia to vote no-kill two nights in a row if a no-lynch was voted on in between the nights.

@Yoyo: why did you vote with all three players you were scum reading for a player you were townreading?

Ive anwered that at least twice guak.