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Constantinople Meteorological University
gameID=169332
Replacement dearly
Needed; Attila under
The weather. Join now!
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When's the cutoff?
On the Ghost Rating website, it says that "The Ghost-Rating list filters out games where the game ends before Autumn 1903."
So, a game ending immediately after builds of '03 would count for GR?
Would a game ending during Diplomacy of Autumn '03 count for GR?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Nov 15 UTC
Political Poll
The question: Is Ben Carson stupid?

If yes, please answer "yes."
If no, please answer "no."
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LittleItaly (355 D)
01 Nov 15 UTC
Ancient Med: Very Slow Game Cycle (10 Days): 200 pts
Just looking for a relaxed game in SOW style. Missed my chance this season, but I still want to learn the game.
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Vikesrussel (839 D)
24 Nov 15 UTC
Admin Question
Hi.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169413&msgCountryID=2
2 got banned that's great, Can we do something about Italy as well? Who not been at the game for 10 days (almost).
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 Nov 15 UTC
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'War' in Syria?
"The point, of course, is that the West had grown so used to attacking Arab lands - France had become so inured to sending its soldiers and air crews to Africa and the Middle East to shoot and bomb those whom it regarded as its enemies - that only when Muslims began attacking Western capital cities did we suddenly announce that we were "at war"."
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
18 Nov 15 UTC
Any interest in top 50 GR game? Classic full press WTA.
I'd like to set up a highly ranked GR game. If you're interested, please post below (also if you're not top 50 but top 100 or top 150 ;P or ...)

1. MrcsAurelius
2.
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stlwolffman (114 D)
23 Nov 15 UTC
general question
is there a way to set your preferences on which country you get in a new game
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pangloss (363 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
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Did Soldiers Really Die for my Freedom?
Last week was Remembrance Day, and aside from the self-righteous pomp and circumstance that usually accompanies the event, I was also subjected to hearing about why I should care about the "sacrifice" of others. Apparently soldiers died for my freedom.
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sangil (983 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
please cancel game 163772
Please either cancel the game "Official Europe Game IV" (id=163772) or at least eject me from it.
It has been paused since July and annoyingly keeps appearing in my dashboard without any way I can leave, hide or remove it.
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stefanodangello (315 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Interest in a good (WTA, FP) modern game?
Seeing people are again interested in organizing good games here(!!!), anyone interested in playing modern? Bets and phase length to be debated and decided.
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Jamiet99uk (848 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
Rich people worrying about the cost of things most people could never afford
Please offer constructive advice to Adam and Megan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/12000288/We-earn-190k-a-year.-Do-we-need-to-sell-our-flat-to-afford-private-school-fees.html
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brainbomb (290 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Ben Carson compares Syrian Refugees to rabid dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X-yH3U-Avc
Women and children fleeing chemical weapons attacks are now rabid dogs apparently lol.
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pasquaaa (591 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Cheating - Russia and Italy were allied before the game even started - this is unfair
Git Gassed is the game they were allied in

Look at the global chat logs they admitted it
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Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
19 Nov 15 UTC
Any interest in a Mid-Level GR (500-800) Game? Semi-Anon, WTA, FP
Taking the lead from the 50 GR thread, I wanted to set up a game or two for players that I could fit with. Say a 25 D bet, WTA, 24 hour phases?

1. Hamilton Brian (612GR, 100%RR)
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
07 Nov 15 UTC
Gaming laptops
Some help please! In my search for good gaming laptops around the €1000 mark, I am now looking at these 2:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/msi-gp60-2qf-1094nl-gaming-laptop/9200000048904923/#product_specifications
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-aspire-nitro-vn7-572g-511v-gaming-laptop/9200000048907779/#product_specifications
Which is best? Are they both not good? What's wrong with them? Thanks!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Nov 15 UTC
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Discrimination Against White People
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/17/white-americans-long-for-the-1950s-when-they-werent-such-victims-of-reverse-discrimination/

We used to have it so easy. Now we still have it easy, but so do some others, though it's still not as easy for them as it is for us. I don't like it. Let's go back.
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trip (696 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
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Greedy Oceans Discriminate Against Deserts!
They won't share any of their water even though they're already teeming with life.

I DEMAND JUSTICE!!! #fuckoceans #DLM
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BlackJackP74 (263 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
New World Game....Join Now!
Hello, everyone! I'd like to inform everyone of a World Diplomacy game. As of this moment, it requires 6 more people to make a full game. I'd appreciate it if we could mae a full one...as World games are always fun and chaotic at the same time. Thanks, and have a great day!
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
NHL All-Star Game
So the NHL has announced a 3-on-3 format for the All-Star Game this season. I believe this format devalues defensemen in that, in a 3-on-3 match, both sides will field a center and 2 wingers to increase scoring chances at the cost of solid defensive play. The NHL has a long history of great defensemen, so I don't believe it is fair to devalue them by devaluing their usefulness in the All-Sta Game (ergo, less All-Star appearances for defensemen versus scorers).
Thoughts?
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Hipe99 (100 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
New Player Game
Hi, I'm doing a game for new players, anyone want to join?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=170048
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brainbomb (290 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
Modern Diplomacy favors Turkey

I've looked at most of the active games, including a few i'm in. I noticed that in almost every single one of them on Modern Dip II, Turkey is always winning at the end of the game. Has anyone ever seen Turkey get wiped out?
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brainbomb (290 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
Who is the sorest loser?
An Italy that doesnt get is way
Or a Russia that gets triple ganged
Share your experiences here
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
Droids rights
With the upcoming release of Star Wars 7, a question occurs to me. Are droids in facts slaves and if so is this okay?
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Ogion (3882 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
turkey needed for gunboat
Well apparently some players in a game entitled to encourage a lack of CDs want to play on with a banned player, so we need a replacement turkey. The position is more decent if you consider the necessary allegiances in place given the position. It'd be a fun challenge to make something of this and far from impossible.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169256#gamePanel
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brainbomb (290 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
Anyone interested in taking over a Fantasy Football team?
im LM for a 14 team league on ESPN and the Standings are crazy. We had 2 people both completely fail at managing teams the problem is theyre both playoff contenders as 8 teams advance. Heres the standings.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
03 Nov 15 UTC
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Mafia XIV Game Thread
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guak (3381 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
I am going to go back and reread both of them to make a case. Yoyo and Vecna too while I am at it.
guak (3381 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Reading p51, I am even more convinced Yoyo is scum.

@everyone: I am now back from Portland. I really was superbusy. I even missed a few phases in the Diplomacy games I am playing. It sucks that I wasn't around to defend myself, but I will definitely be around until mafia kills me.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Ok guak. It's going to be a blast hearing about it lol.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
"If it is DL, it means he jumped the gun, a very risky maneuver. Thus, I think it far more likely that bo is the last scum."

Guak, you really should start wearing footwear with better traction, you seem to be slipping.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
Eh, that's not a slip. It's just... odd.

Town didn't allow for a third wagon, guak. The four of us coalesced around two candidates.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
Though I see your point. It could go either way.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
I'll wait for your case on Yoyo, though. That seems to be what your point hinges around.
damian (675 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Briefly on break at work, wanted to post a final thought in cause I die, since I won't be on before deadline. I'm convinced Yoyo is scum, on the off chance that I'm wrong. I think it's probably bo and vecna. GL town :)
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
I reread the first 15 pages. Damian isnt looking too good at all, in reference to his scummy commont on me:

"@Yoyo
"Ok obviously Espi was bussed to no end, probably from the very beginning so all of D3 is WIFOM. However, this is a chance for us to look back at D1 and D2 to draw some connections. "
This is the biggest pile of bullshit. There is no way in hell scum were trying to bus the godfather day 1 before we had lynched our own cop. Everything about what you're doing is so off Yoyo."

So let me explain my quote for thise of you who didn't get what I meant. I was saying that he was bussed today and so we can't really find any useful info since that's WIFOM and he was likely bussed from the beginning OF D3. Why would I say that we couldn't use D3 but we could still use D1 and D2 if you thought that I was talking about the beginning of the game. Use comtext clues sheesh.

It's really funny that this is coming from Damian, who replaced Maniac and at the beginning on D1 caught fire because he was telling everyone that he pegged Espi from a single comment. So as scum, trying to deter people from thinking that Maniac bussed Espi early seems logical.

Lol talk about saying things that seem off, check out his reads. He reads me and bo as the remaining scum when that's the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard. If Espi, Bo, and I were scum, why would I go out of my way to town read them for the entire game, and pretty much defend Espi to the last breath? Do you really think I'm that stupid?

Now lets look at those other hedgy reads:
"Guak - This fella seems a bit slow. I've asked him questions and I feel like I might as well be calling home to earth given the speed of the responses. But he seems to have a good heart, and a good judge of character. He knew something wasn't write with MUKTHNUK from the start. There is no way, no how he should be our target tomorrow. Particularly considering he was the alternative supported by at least on Martian today."

Lmfao what the hell is this? Like actually. "He seems to have a good heart" lmfao gtfo. This is the weirdest bullshit I've ever seen, it's like you couldn't think of a reason to town read him so you made up this crap to fill space.

"DL- I was wrong this morning. DL isn't filled with pink slime, he's a honest to goodness flesh and blood human like us. There is no way, now how I can see him working with us to take a narrow lead in choose MUKTHNUK as our target today, when if he had done anything else, we'd have been overrun. He's an earth man through and through."

Really? And no one is going to call him out for this shit?
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
We're at LYLO and Damian is giving the town back up advice just in case he's wrong. You can not make this stuff up.
guak (3381 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Why Yoyo is scum (part 1):

p5: Yoyo makes an early scum post.

"Well my initial reaction is that both ghug and wjessop are scum. I'll provide my reasoning later on, but for now, I'm going to note a few things Ive noticed.

-DeathLlama comes up with the terrible idea of VTs claiming when their on the block.
1. If allows the mafia to save themselves.
2. It draws the cops scan to the false claim.

-wjessop's lack of joke posting.

-Espi's hyperactivity

-ghug's quick criticism of Espi, and everyone besides DL. Despite this, he townreads wjessop and ND, for dumb reasons, I might add.just null them, instead of town reading them for an argument that you think is productive. Wjessop just seemed to ask a lot of questions, which he does whether or not he's scum."

Not that Yoyo scumreads ghug for criticising Espi. Also note that he only mentions Espi's hyperactivity without saying what he thinks that hyperactivity means.

p5: Yoyo says he would shot bo if he were day vig.
p6-8: Yoyo focuses on non-content conversation. Huge argument with wjessop about lurking transforms into huge argument about nothing.
p7: wjessop attacks Yoyo. Yoyo reacts defensively.
p9: ghug says:
"I really don't like Yoyo's response to Jessop's questioning. Town players should be fine answering questions. Yoyo flipped out and tried to turn it into another "wj picking needless fights" narrative when it was clearly Yoyo who turned the conversation from simple question to shouting match. I don't think the original point against Yoyo was very compelling, but Yoyo's reaction was focused on creating a distraction and trying to pin that distraction on wj. These are not town-motivated actions. ++VOTE Yoyo" Pretty good summary of the first few pages.
p9: Yoyo says
"Wjessop, play better. You're brilliant as mafia, not sure why you're playing so bad if you're town."
and p10:
"Your intention means nothing. You intend for your actions to be helpful but they arent. Check the Mafia QT from last game. Dream team was literally rejoining at how you and y2k were horribly misguided and delusional, considering how vocal you were. I think you need to get off your high horse from your Mafia MVP and relearn how to actually be good for the town."
These last two points make me think scumslip. I think these indicate Yoyo knew wjessop was town. With 10 pages played it is only possible if Yoyo is scum.
p10: "Buddy Espi is buddy.

++VOTE Espi" 5th vote on Espi. Early bus attempt? It is interesting because Yoyo had been attacking and will continue to attack later Espi voters. If he truly thought Espi was scum, his reads did not reflect this. He also gives no real reason for voting Espi.

p15: Yoyo's new list of scum:
"Most likely to be native (native martian that is, because we are the aliens):

Wjessop-lack of jokeposting. As scum, he's usually one of the first serious people, as we are witnessing this game. His tactics for native-hunting are counterproductive and he either fails to recognize this, or doesn't care. I've and others have told him this many times so I'm convinced it's the latter.

Maniac- He's posted enough, but he hasn't drawn my attention at all. I almost don't even remember anything he's said, which is unusual to say the least. After further though, I di remember his Espi case, based on a word he used. Known for his reaction tests, I leave him to himself for now, if he fails to come up with something more concrete, I'll launch a more throrough investigation, as more data is collected and assessed.

Jeff- I list him as a ternary candidate because he's always been like this, however it is getting really old. He's on the list to begin because it seems purposeful this time. Like last game he was just playing terribly. This game, it's almost like he's trolling. Like BOG in the Climate change thread. He knows how to play but he's playing dumb. "

The interesting part here is that ghug was dropped seemingly with no explanation. Only thing that changed was that ghug stopped pressing Espi and started to try and find new wagons. Pretty clear scum message: Pressure Espi and I will pursue you as scum (further reinforced by the reason he added Maniac and Jeff to the scum team - Jeff had recently voted Espi without explanation).

p17: Day 1 Official Vote Count #6 (last one should have been #5)

Espi (5): Maniac, wjessop, guak, Yoyoyozo, Jeff Kuta
Maniac (2): ghug, bo_sox48
Jeff Kuta (1): DeathLlama8
wjessop (1): ND
ND (1): Vecna

Note that Yoyo is voting with all three of his most recent scum reads. Seriously, why would a townie ever do that?

p20: this gem from Yoyo:

"Ok I'm going to move my vote. I don't find Espi particularly scummy. I voted for him to see what would happen if he was the main lynch for a while. I didn't learn quite as much as I would like to but I learned a few things, which I will include in my EON post.

I'd like to hop on maniac because he's been lurky and useless. These early cases and reads are also unheard of from him. He throws a solid read on Espi within the first 12 hours of the game.

++VOTE Maniac"

p21: Espi says:
"@yoyo I feel like I am making a mistake about Maniac, I was so sure he was scum but it seems like this is too easy. I am trying to make any connections about what is going on that I can and it just felt... off. I also don't like that we only have 2 mislynches. If Maniac is town then I become the next logical lynch choice and we lose. I want to be right but I am afraid that I am wrong."

Looks like a scum attempt to communicate the need for a new wagon. Funny how the new wagon happened later.

p23: Yoyo says:

"I'm here. I don't think Espi is scum. The development between ND and wjessop is interesting though. Id be willing to lynch maniac or wjessop."

p24: "Ok by virtue of the fact that ND will give us more, I'll vote for him
++Vote ND
I also dont like that he's holding his vote in reserves. Seems off to me."

Yoyo switches to ND. Pretty clear what is happening here in the last two pages.

As you can see Yoyo's D1 is as scummy as it gets now that we know that wj was town and Espi was scum.
guak (3381 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
I will try to finish my analysis on Yoyo before the deadline, but in case I die before I can finish, I hope this is enough to convince the rest of the town to lynch Yoyo tomorrow.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
That's a good point about the votes on page 17. Now I'm confused.

TOWN -

• guak - he makes a fair point about the fact that there was no third wagon, though I'm still not certain that there could have been anyway. Still, the primary reason that I was voting for him was because I expected him to appear in LYLO, and he didn't. He's here now and the case above is fairly compelling in some places. He shouldn't be a lynch target D4.

SLIGHT TOWN -

• DL - given EOD3, and given guak's point that there would have been a third wagon if each of the two main targets were mafia, I am fairly confident that DL is town for pushing the vote onto Espi when, assuming guak is town, he could have simply won the game for his team. That said, I'm not willing to entirely townclear him - his criticism of the guak wagon would have made it strange for him to hop on anyway, and I think it would be wise for scum to bus as opposed to outing themselves and potentially their partner, even in LYLO. DL has played me before with towntells and I am fairly sure that he looks for opportunities to towntell as mafia, so I can't be entirely confident.

SLIGHT SCUM -

• Vecna - It occurs to me that Vecna appears to be far more active during the day than he is at night. I am starting to wonder whether he is preoccupied with the mafia chat during the night. If we manage to get another mafia on D4, we should watch how Vecna plays during the night and see if he is mysteriously more active since his partners have both died.

• damian - Yoyo pointed out how bad his reads were, and I attacked him for it before. He hedged a lot and had nothing to say, and rather than saying that he was a replacement and that he had nothing to say, which I think he would as town, he tried to fill in the space. It's worth a scumread. That said, I still don't see Maniac dropping out with a win at his fingertips. I can't get over that.

• Yoyo - guak's case is fairly strong. On page 17, he votes with three of his scumreads - strange, to say the least. I know I think about who I am voting with when I see vote counts; I'm surprised he didn't. Guak doesn't go into tons of detail about his vote on ND, but I find it very strange that he said he was willing to vote for either wjessop or Maniac and then jumped on the wagon that a) potentially saved Maniac, and b) wjessop was helping lead, along with ghug. That goes beyond him voting for someone who he said previously he wasn't voting for. There have also been multiple points where Yoyo has claimed he was being forced to vote for a townread, as if to exonerate himself from the consequences. The case isn't bad here.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Lol the first 24 pages?

"Not that Yoyo scumreads ghug for criticising Espi. Also note that he only mentions Espi's hyperactivity without saying what he thinks that hyperactivity means."

>I did not scum read him for criticising Espi. Did you not read the quote? This is what I said, "I'll provide my reasoning LATER ON, but for now, I'm going to note a few things Ive noticed." I was just noting things that stuck out to me. Don't lie.

These last two points make me think scumslip. I think these indicate Yoyo knew wjessop was town. With 10 pages played it is only possible if Yoyo is scum.

>No. That is not a scum slip. You're being nitpicky.

Note that Yoyo is voting with all three of his most recent scum reads. Seriously, why would a townie ever do that?

>Jesus Christ, you quoted me in the text where I said that I didn't think Espi was scum, (Part of the reason was BECAUSE my scum partners were on him) this point seems reaching and deceptive.

Looks like a scum attempt to communicate the need for a new wagon. Funny how the new wagon happened later.

>Lol this is my favorite. Did I start the new wagon? No. Another point that is completely fabricated. Also, really? Espi has said some pretty interesting stuff to a lot of people. He actually address everyone asking the exact same question. He addressed me specifically in his next post likely because I was one of the only people only at the time.

"Yoyo switches to ND. Pretty clear what is happening here in the last two pages."

>Lol Venca and DL also switch. What's your point?

"As you can see Yoyo's D1 is as scummy as it gets now that we know that wj was town and Espi was scum."
No. Not at all. What we do know is that this is full of confirmation bias, deception, and straight up lies.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Are you kidding bo? His case is garbage. And it only uses D1.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
I don't love the use of "obviously this is scum communication!!!" in posts. Do scum actually do that? In my experience, either I'm terrible at picking up messages or it's never happened in my scumteams.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Vecna's insistence that Bo is scum is weird. Do not like.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
(sorry everyone my internet kinda died at a bad time. Guak is slight town, I'm no longer as sure on Bo but still leaning scum. Does anyone have a case for Maniac's play being different than typical disinterested town Maniac? Vecna and Yoyo need looking at (beyond d1)
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
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You all wake up. No one died. Day 4 beings, you have 48 hours.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
...Wait what
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Oh I see scum want to keep it in MYLO so the suspect pool is bigger. ##NO-LYNCH. Right back at you, Martians!
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Lol
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
This is a no lynch situation. We need to narrow it down.

##VOTE No Lynch
guak (3381 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
##VOTE No Lynch,

Pretty clear, I guess. Mafia made a mistake, now we have more time to find scum.
damian (675 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Break number two. Looks like we have even more time to catch scum ##nolynch

Also you really the good heart comment was serious? It was RP, I was just having some fun with the game. More comments to follow once I'm home
damian (675 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Wait, Bo why are you calling my reads hedged? I think they're pretty direct, particularly if you ignore the text that's just for flavour 2/3 Bo, Vecna, Yoyo scum. Me, Guak, DL town.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
"My point is right there, if you ignore 99% of the other junk"
-Damian aka "xXxScumSlaya666xXx"
damian (675 D)
13 Nov 15 UTC
Are you seriously bitching about flavour text? I included serious content, I just wanted to you know, actually have some fun with it, because this is a game.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
13 Nov 15 UTC
Lmao, even if we were to ignore the bs, there's even more bs.

Most of your reads depended solely on whether or not they scum read Espi.
damian (675 D)
13 Nov 15 UTC
Espi was, in my opinion, obv scum. And his identity is one of the few really solid pieces of information we have right now. Besides the post you are criticizing was specifically written as a reaction to espi's death.

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KingCyrus (511 D)
18 Nov 15 UTC
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New Forum Etiquette Rules
From now on, all members of the forum shall be placed under scrutiny while debating. We shall rely on citizens of the forum making sound judgment calls. The necessary tools to perform these duties are here:

http://tinyurl.com/ou4p4t5
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wjessop (100 DX)
18 Nov 15 UTC
ADVERTISE YOUR BUSINESS IDEAS AND POTENTIAL INVENTIONS HERE
This is the thread for all business ideas and potential inventions, or concepts and proposals of such.

All ideas welcome.
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wjessop (100 DX)
13 Nov 15 UTC
Paris Terrorist Attack, November 2015
Paris shootings: Casualties in city centre and explosion at Stade de France

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203
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