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KiNg Of DiPlOmAcY (270 D)
26 Feb 12 UTC
What happens when...
You reach 0 D? How would you get into another game?
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icanhazconquest (100 D)
01 Mar 12 UTC
Multiple issue
I am currently engaged in a game where a multiple has been banned. In this instance the multiple has a combined 48 D. Players in the game, who have an admittedly weaker position, are asking for a draw.

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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
27 Feb 12 UTC
I need advice improving my game.
This keeps happening...I get off to a decent start then I get trashed.
This is seriously affecting my GR and points (of course, I am losing).
I might need a mentor. Sigh, after nearly 150 games here.
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
26 Feb 12 UTC
Does X = 5?
I had this debate with a friend. He insists it does. I do not believe it does. What does everyone here believe? (and yes, he already showed me the limits and such)
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
01 Mar 12 UTC
Intro Statistics Question (which is badly worded imo)
I have a practice test, and can't figure out how to do this question. Any help would be appreciated
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tj218 (713 D)
26 Feb 12 UTC
Any higher point games starting?
Looking for a game with people that:

1. Actually communicate
2. Don't NMR or go into CD
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
01 Mar 12 UTC
The Masters update
Hopefully this is the last one of these I'll be doing
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JECE (1248 D)
02 Feb 12 UTC
Droidippy gunboat game!
Join a Droidippy gunboat game with your fellow webDiplomacy players. PM me for the invitation code.

(As seen in threadID=816341.)
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
27 Feb 12 UTC
How easy is it to be liked by other users?
please select one of the following.
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bolshoi (0 DX)
29 Feb 12 UTC
Can a mod force me CD?
to be honest i'd like a force-cd on all the games i'm currently playing. but if not that, at least this one gameID=81266&msgCountryID=0
i just signed up to take over, but i'm an idiot i thought it was a live game for some reason. so that was an oversight on my part.
even if i were still signing up for non-live games they are not even speaking english there. can i get a cd?
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Barn3tt (41969 D)
26 Feb 12 UTC
Live The Changes You Want To See In The World, 7007 points Gunboat EOG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=79015
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DiploMerlin (245 D)
29 Feb 12 UTC
Looking for player to replace me
I am going camping this weekend and will have no access to internet. Can someone take over from me in this game either permanently or temporarily? I am USA.

gameID=81115
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President Eden (2750 D)
29 Feb 12 UTC
ATTN: Interested parties who intend to be in the top-7 all-time GR by this June
Get there, and get ready. Invitational of the millennium coming up.
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
28 Feb 12 UTC
http://www.vdiplomacy.com !!! -- What's your Favorite Variant(s)???
I prefer our 'Standard' map... but this site has many worthy maps & variants...
A big round of applause for all the fine work done... Come over & try some !!!
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
29 Feb 12 UTC
America will supply North Korea with food
In exchange for stopping their nuclear program.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
29 Feb 12 UTC
FIRST person to post wins
ME
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
18 Feb 12 UTC
There's a glitch in the RESIGNED processing...
see : gameID=80963 ... where's my Survive !?!?!?
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martinck1 (4464 D(S))
27 Feb 12 UTC
Finding out the identity of Players who "Leave" and are then replaced
Having just finished an Anon game, we had a player who "Left". A new player then joins. A number of questions arise:
1. Is GR calculated on the original player or the new player. Must be the original player, otherwise this a way to manage the rankings.
2. But if this information is readily available, is there any way to find out who the original player was?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
21 Feb 12 UTC
Game 4: Exile
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Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Feb 12 UTC
First person to reply
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
23 Feb 12 UTC
Does 0.9999..... = 1?
I had this debate with a friend. He insists it does. I do not believe it does. What does everyone here believe? (and yes, he already showed me the limits and such)
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Transcendentalism is a philosophical movement that developed in the 1830s and 1840s in the New England region of the United States as a protest to the general state of culture and society, and in particular, the state of intellectualism at Harvard University and the doctrine of the Unitarian church taught at Harvard Divinity School. Among the transcendentalists' core beliefs was the inherent goodness of both man and nature. Transcendentalists believed that society and its institutions - particularly organized religion and political parties - ultimately corrupted the purity of the individual. They had faith that man is at his best when truly "self-reliant" and independent. It is only from such real individuals that true community could be formed.
The major figures in the movement were Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, Margaret Fuller, and Amos Bronson Alcott. Other prominent transcendentalists included Charles Timothy Brooks, Orestes Brownson, William Ellery Channing, William Henry Channing, James Freeman Clarke, Christopher Pearse Cranch, Walt Whitman, Nathanial Hawthorne, John Sullivan Dwight, Convers Francis, William Henry Furness, Frederic Henry Hedge, Sylvester Judd, Theodore Parker, Elizabeth Palmer Peabody, George Ripley, Thomas Treadwell Stone, and Jones Very.[1]

The publication of Ralph Waldo Emerson's 1836 essay Nature is usually considered the watershed moment at which transcendentalism became a major cultural movement. Emerson wrote in his speech "The American Scholar": "We will walk on our own feet; we will work with our own hands; Divine Soul which also inspires all men." Emerson closed the essay by calling for a revolution in human consciousness to emerge from the brand new idealist philosophy:
So shall we come to look at the world with new eyes. It shall answer the endless inquiry of the intellect, — What is truth? and of the affections, — What is good? by yielding itself passive to the educated Will. ... Build, therefore, your own world. As fast as you conform your life to the pure idea in your mind, that will unfold its great proportions. A correspondent revolution in things will attend the influx of the spirit.
In the same year, transcendentalism became a coherent movement with the founding of the Transcendental Club in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on September 8, 1836, by prominent New England intellectuals including George Putnam (1807–1878; the Unitarian minister in Roxbury), Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Frederick Henry Hedge. From 1840, the group published frequently in their journal The Dial, along with other venues. Early in the movement's history, the term "Transcendentalists" was used as a pejorative term by critics, who were suggesting their position was beyond sanity and reason.[2]
The transcendentalists varied in their interpretations of the practical aims of will. Some among the group linked it with utopian social change; Brownson connected it with early socialism, while others considered it an exclusively individualist and idealist project. Emerson believed the latter. In his 1842 lecture "The Transcendentalist", Emerson suggested that the goal of a purely transcendental outlook on life was impossible to attain in practice:
You will see by this sketch that there is no such thing as a transcendental party; that there is no pure transcendentalist; that we know of no one but prophets and heralds of such a philosophy; that all who by strong bias of nature have leaned to the spiritual side in doctrine, have stopped short of their goal. We have had many harbingers and forerunners; but of a purely spiritual life, history has afforded no example. I mean, we have yet no man who has leaned entirely on his character, and eaten angels' food; who, trusting to his sentiments, found life made of miracles; who, working for universal aims, found himself fed, he knew not how; clothed, sheltered, and weaponed, he knew not how, and yet it was done by his own hands. ... Shall we say, then, that transcendentalism is the Saturnalia or excess of Faith; the presentiment of a faith proper to man in his integrity, excessive only when his imperfect obedience hinders the satisfaction of his wish.
By the late 1840s, Emerson believed the movement was dying out, and even more so after the death of Margaret Fuller in 1850. "All that can be said", Emerson wrote, "is, that she represents an interesting hour and group in American cultivation".[3] There was, however, a second wave of transcendentalists, including Moncure Conway, Octavius Brooks Frothingham, Samuel Longfellow and Franklin Benjamin Sanborn.[4]

Transcendentalism was in many aspects the first notable American intellectual movement. It certainly was the first to inspire succeeding generations of American intellectuals, as well as a number of literary monuments.[5] Rooted in the transcendental philosophy of Immanuel Kant (and of German Idealism more generally), it developed as a reaction against 18th Century rationalism, John Locke's philosophy of Sensualism, and the manifest destiny of New England Calvinism. Its fundamental belief was in the unity and immanence of God in the world. The Transcendentalists found inspiration for their philosophy in a variety of diverse sources such as: Vedic thought, various religions, and German idealism.[6]
The transcendentalists desired to ground their religion and philosophy in transcendental principles: principles not based on, or falsifiable by, sensuous experience, but deriving from the inner spiritual or mental essence of the human. Immanuel Kant had called "all knowledge transcendental which is concerned not with objects but with our mode of knowing objects."[7] The transcendentalists were largely unacquainted with German philosophy in the original, and relied primarily on the writings of Thomas Carlyle, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Victor Cousin, Germaine de Staël, and other English and French commentators for their knowledge of it. In contrast, they were intimately familiar with the English Romantics, and the transcendental movement may be partially described as a slightly later, American outgrowth of Romanticism. Another major influence was the mystical spiritualism of Emanuel Swedenborg.
Thoreau in Walden spoke of the Transcendentalists' debt to Vedic thought directly.
In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavat Geeta, since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed, and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial; and I doubt if that philosophy is not to be referred to a previous state of existence, so remote is its sublimity from our conceptions. I lay down the book and go to my well for water, and lo! there I meet the servant of the Brahmin, priest of Brahma, and Vishnu and Indra, who still sits in his temple on the Ganges reading the Vedas, or dwells at the root of a tree with his crust and water-jug. I meet his servant come to draw water for his master, and our buckets as it were grate together in the same well. The pure Walden water is mingled with the sacred water of the Ganges.[8]

Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote a novel, The Blithedale Romance (1852), satirizing the movement, and based it on his experiences at Brook Farm, a short-lived utopian community founded on transcendental principles.[9] Edgar Allan Poe wrote a story, "Never Bet the Devil Your Head", in which he embedded elements of deep dislike for transcendentalism, calling its followers "Frogpondians" after the pond on Boston Common.[10] The narrator ridiculed their writings by calling them "metaphor-run" lapsing into "mysticism for mysticism's sake".[11] and called it a "disease". The story specifically mentions the movement and its flagship journal The Dial, though Poe denied that he had any specific targets.[12]
In Poe's essay "The Philosophy of Composition" he offers criticism denouncing "the excess of the suggested meaning. . .which turns into prose (and that of the very flattest kind) the so-called poetry of the so-called trancendentalists."[13]

Transcendentalists were strong believers in the power of the individual and divine messages. Their beliefs are closely linked with those of the Romantics.
The movement directly influenced the growing movement of "Mental Sciences" of the mid-19th century, which would later become known as the New Thought movement. New Thought draws directly from the transcendentalists, particularly Emerson. New Thought considers Emerson its intellectual father.[14] Emma Curtis Hopkins "the teacher of teachers"; Ernest Holmes, founder of Religious Science; the Fillmores, founders of Unity; and Malinda Cramer and Nona L. Brooks, the founders of Divine Science; were all greatly influenced by Transcendentalism.[15][16]

Transcendental idealism
The term transcendentalism sometimes serves as shorthand for "transcendental idealism", which is the philosophy of Immanuel Kant and later Kantian and German Idealist philosophers.
Transcendental theology
Further information: Transcendence (religion)
Another alternative meaning for transcendentalism is the classical philosophy that God transcends the manifest world. As John Scotus Erigena put it to Frankish king Charles the Bald in the year 840 AD, "We know not what God is. God himself doesn't know what He is because He is not anything. Literally God is not, because He transcends being."
ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
Cool story bro.
sqrg (304 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
@ghug haha, it's great how you can always go to something more complex. And if it turns out you got something new it just ends up beeing new math.
Trancendental numbers aren't that easy btw. Pretty hard to prove if certain numbers are , for instance. No 1=0.99... for you
ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
I meant easy to comprehend for the less math-oriented among us, the math behind quaternions is actually much simpler.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
24 Feb 12 UTC
@redhouse,
I don't know what tasteless comments you are referring to. Taos was trolling and I called him on it, and other people referred to his nonsensical reply as well. In reference to Sebass, he clearly did not read the posts before he posted. Thucy and others clearly pointed out the issue of assuming that there is an "I" to begin with and he did not read that. Moreover, his quote was already quoted several times before in English and Latin. If you are going to be lazy and not read the comments above, then don't try to post something to show your intellectual prowess.
To make it more clear, one cannot use one characteristic among many to define existence when one has not proven that one exists in the first place. Beta waves in themselves do not imply existence.
If he has bothered to read the posts and say something intelligent, then I wouldn't have said anything.
sqrg (304 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
@ghug depends how general you want to go. It all goes deeper! And going from 1=0.999... is quite a step up ^^
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 12 UTC
Dear President Eden,

After your last post it has become clear to the mod team that you are, in fact, a multiaccount of obiwanobiwan. You'll be hearing from us shortly regarding the banning of your account.

Thanks,

webDiplomacy Moderators
uclabb (589 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
I dunno abge, there wasn't any unnecessary capitalization.
I +1'd it and I'm going to get banned.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 12 UTC
"I know Abge is more on the scientist side, but I'm an engineer. "

lol I think I'd make a rather poor scientist, actually.
fortknox (2059 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
But the stuff you work on is much more 'science-y' than normal.

Yes, working in the business world for over a decade has made me lose a lot of my science background and use words like 'science-y'.
Dharmaton (2398 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
Let Cardinality of |R| = |Z*-| + |Z^0| + |Z^+| = inf. + 1 + inf. = 2 x inf. + 1.
Where |Z^+| = |Z^-| = infinity ... ie: both lines of from zero exclusive.
Yet |R| = inf. ... and not = 2 x inf. + 1. We get variable infinities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)
http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0411454.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0107102.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1005/1005.2730.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0702112.pdf
G1 (92 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
lol imagine trying to ban President Eden :D I suppose they did it to draug for a bit, but he was really, really asking for it :P
ZachsterPoke (100 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
x = .9999......
10x = 9.9999.....
10x - x = 9.9999.... - .9999....
9x = 9
x = 1

I assume this was the proof he gave you?
ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
Is that the third or fourth time that's been posted in this thread?
Dharmaton (2398 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
or, "
Let Cardinality of |Z| = |N*-| + |N^0| + |N^+| = inf. + 1 + inf. = (2 x infinity) + 1. = 2 x (infinity) + 1. "
Dharmaton (2398 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
... so it has more to do with the yet unresolved : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_hypothesis
redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
I tried to +.9999... this thread because I know Diplomat loves it but the computer rounded it down to the nearest integer. :(
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
lol I get it! Cuz .9999999 rounded DOWN is ONE!!!
redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
Actually what I meant was 0, because it was a computer. Never mind.
King Atom (100 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
YOU ALL DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE CONGO!
ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
Any computer you're doing math with is going to represent that as 1.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT MY COMPUTER!
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
That must have been a sucky computer...

Anyway, maybe this thread, and the fervent "denials" of the fact that 0.999... = 1, shows how decadent society has become. They cannot figure out precalculus, and they cannot trust those who did...
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
Now let's discuss

e^(i * pi) + 1 = 0

It is counterintuitive that e to the power of something could be -1...how exactly does that happen?
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
24 Feb 12 UTC
It's math. Anything is possible.
If you can imagine it, you can make it real.

Please tell me someone likes my stupid pun.
ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
e^ix = cos(x), it's a way of expressing polar coordinates using the imaginary plane.
uclabb (589 D)
24 Feb 12 UTC
The cleanest way to prove it that I know of is with Taylor series expansions. I can show you if you want.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
24 Feb 12 UTC
Yeah, Taylor series expansions would be the way to go.
@ghug, it's e^(i x)=cos (x) + i sin (x) by the way. So e ^(pi i)=cos(pi)+i sin(pi) and cos (pi) is negative one and sin(pi) is 0. So e^(pi i)+1=0
ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Feb 12 UTC
I appreciated your pun, there was also a good complex one earlier.

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bolshoi (0 DX)
29 Feb 12 UTC
bolshoi
after someone posted a message using my name as a noun, i decided to see what bolshoi means in english. unfortunately through google and wikipedia i learned that bolshoi in english typically means an opera, ballet, drama theatre and an 80's group from london. does this information raise concerns about my sexuality. and if so should i create a new account?
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
29 Feb 12 UTC
BIG WORLD GAME
World Game
all chat, bet 50, 1 day phaze
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=81943
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NikeFlash (140 D)
29 Feb 12 UTC
Examples of TC's inability to...
List your favorite examples of TC inability to
Let his threads die/respond to legitimate questions/to disprove that his ignorance is bliss.
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alexanderthegr8 (0 DX)
28 Feb 12 UTC
join Answet
Joim Answet please!
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alexanderthegr8 (0 DX)
28 Feb 12 UTC
Join Awesome Joinage
Please Join in Games, New
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 12 UTC
Techniques for abolishing sleep
Post methods to avoid sleep while successfully not getting tired.
Alternatively: Post techniques to sleep for less than 3 hours a day.
Thanks.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
28 Feb 12 UTC
Does x = 1, when it equals .9999...
Or does it equal 5? +1 this thread if you think you believe these BS threads can all be combined into one major thread. Last person to post wins, particularly if you know shit about the Congo.
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Putin33 (111 D)
28 Feb 12 UTC
So I guess the "Stratfor = innocent victim" crowd is feeling pretty sheepish
http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html
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alexanderthegr8 (0 DX)
28 Feb 12 UTC
join awesomenessrestart
join
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