What do you expect? Someone to come to your door and ask you to sign documents with a cop verifying from your ID you are the person you claim to be?
As long as you click on "I accept terms and conditions" you are responsible for it and you are the one who has to prove your network collection was stolen or that your dog accidentally stepped on your mouse.
Also, when sites change terms of use they just send you an email asking you to read the new terms (paypal yesterday). Regardless if you read them or not you are responsible for them unless you send an objection to a specific email asking for your account deletion.

Is it your first hour online?
You must be really naive.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Man, you all must have got some funny laws in Greece.

???? I'm always amazed at the dumb notions some people have about what sites can and can't do with IP addresses. How on earth do you propose a site would be able to extract payment from you having only your email address and IP?

ok, so you think that if you agree to pay 50euros to a site, then click on a confirmation email from the site, you won't be obliged to pay?
Or you think that clicking on I agree to the above terms doesn't equal signing a document?
your ip and email vaildate that it a person that used your pc agreed to the fee.
You can't use as a defense that you weren't the one using the pc at that time, unless you can actually prove it (a stolen pc or something).
this is not Greek law but international.
If you really question it I challenge you to try this with a site that requires a fee and see what happens.
Sites prefer the usual credit card method not because they can't get a court decision but because they want to avoid it and they want money right now.
I really think you just pretend to be absolute complete morons just because it's me writing the messages.
You are the real trolls, not me...

You are an idiot, hellalt.

You are to the legal profession what diplofool is to the aviation industry.

Click-wrap agreements are contracts formed entirely over the Internet. A party posts terms on its website pursuant to which it offers to sell goods or services. To buy these goods, the purchaser is required to indicate his assent to be bound by the terms of the offer by his conduct -- typically the act of clicking on a button stating "I agree." Once the purchaser indicates his assent to be bound, the contract is formed on the posted terms, and the sale is consummated. No paper record is created nor is the signature of the purchaser required.
Click-wrap agreements derive their name from shrink-wrap agreements, by which most software is sold today. The software vendor offers to sell or license the use of her software according to terms accompanying the software. The purchaser or licensee agrees by his conduct to be bound by such terms. Such conduct typically takes the form of the retention or use of the software after being provided an opportunity to review the contract's terms and return the software for a full refund if they are unacceptable.
Lawyers have long opined that click-wrap agreements are enforceable contractual arrangements. In what appears to be the first judicial pronouncement on this subject, Hotmail Corporation v. Van Money Pie Inc., et al., C98-20064 (N.D. Ca., April 20, 1998), the United States District Court for the Northern District of California has agreed. In Hotmail, the court held that defendants were bound by Terms of Service posted on a website as a result of their act of clicking on a button "I agree."
http://www.internetlibrary.com/publications/cwahe_art.cfm

Martin H. Samson
Partner
Davidoff Malito & Hutcher LLP
New York

so you are in a fact an idiot fucking shithead Jamiet99uk.
You are also a dickhead, a jackass and a motherfucking a cunt.
A shitty cockroach that I would hate to smash with my boot.
So FUCK YOU and fuck your whole family
I spit cum and vomit into your mother's wide open asshole.
You don't deserve to be alive

Also, Kestas, It wouldn't hurt if you tried to fiz your shitty site.
It loads once every 30 minutes.

@hellalt - You want to be banned, don't you? You are being far worse to kestas than I ever was , and I can really fucking close during my great medication adjustment a few months back.

And, if you clikc the agreement, then yes, you have agreed to accept the charges. But they can't charge you unless you agree to it by clicking accept on the agreement. So what's the problem? If Kestas ever decides to make the site a pay site, you have the right to NOT click the agreement, and I would encourage you to take that right and NOT click the agreement. Then we wouldn't have to deal with your shitty fucking attitude.

A note to KEstas - Go ahrad and make it a pay site. I'll pay to play for a reasonable annual fee.

I'll pay for a reasonable fee as well. Even $1 would probably be enough to keep the idiots and some of the multi-accounters away.

I'd also pay, I pay a couple hundred a month already on hobbies. :P

But I'm sure we have highschool kids here because i've seen games to that effect and it would be sad for them.

Also hellalt, make a website that says i have to pay $50 if I click "I Accept". I'll click it and then good luck.

You're arguing two separate things here. If somebody steals your wireless network then it's your own fault for not securing it. They can sign you up for all sorts of things, regardless of account deletion. I don't see how this is relevant.
If Kestas send you an email updating T's&C's to request payment then the contract to pay would not be enforceable because you had not fulfilled the "acknowledgment" phase of the contract.
There are some companies which attempt to change payment terms (credit card companies etc) but to do so they must have first included a reservation for their right to do so in the original contract. They must also send a copy by mail if and only if the contract change alters the manner or amount of payment. If Kestas' original T's&C's (I can't remember what they are) do not include such a provision then you are not liable.
Even if such a provision were in the original contract I can't imagine any court would buy it unless it were made very clear.

I'm actually against the idea of a payment to sign up because I think it would have deterred me from signing up originally (having never played Diplomacy in my life- I just thought I'd try it out and now I love it). However if there were a "Donate" button I'd gladly do so to help with hosting and server fees.

We don't really disagree here.
But the initial conversation was whether websites should have an option allowing he user to disable his/her account.
Hibiskiss: I would love to do it, but you would be the only fool to click accept.
Draugnar: You missed the whole point.

While, theoretically, hellalt is correct that it is a legal and binding agreement if you click accept, there are two flaws.

First, proving it was actually that person who clicked it... It's easy to use a public library and apply using someone else's email account unless you require an email verification and only allow email systems that verify their users (i.e. exclude all the freebies like google and yahoo).

Second, the agreement must specify the amount of the charge in the terms and the site must retain the evidence of the agreement down to the specific version of the terms.

Finally, it has nothing to do with this site as Kestas hasn't put anything like that up.

Also, kestas is actually already being paid by Plura Processing
Quoting from their website:
"Plura Processing pays affiliates up to $2.60 per full month of computing time provided. "Full month of computing time" is equivalent to a single CPU providing compute time for an entire month at 100% utilization."
I have noticed that there are always 100 persons logged in regardless of the time.
So probably kestas gets up to 100 x 2.60=260$ per month.
That's not bad.

@hellalt: "so you are in a fact an idiot fucking shithead Jamiet99uk.
You are also a dickhead, a jackass and a motherfucking a cunt.
A shitty cockroach that I would hate to smash with my boot.
So FUCK YOU and fuck your whole family
I spit cum and vomit into your mother's wide open asshole.
You don't deserve to be alive"

What a lovely person you are.

@ hellalt: "So probably kestas gets up to 100 x 2.60=260$ per month.
That's not bad."

Kestas puts a lot of work into developing and maintaining this excellent diplomacy site. If he's getting $260 a month in return, that's really not very much money, so I think he thoroughly deserves it.

I'm sure it's more than you have ever made from practising law.

OK, Hellalt finally qualifies as a troll. His vile and unoriginal (dude, if you are going to be personally insulting, at least be creative) qualifies him as a troll.

"Hibiskiss: I would love to do it, but you would be the only fool to click accept."

So? Is $50 not worth 5 minutes of your time? I have the money to "risk" by proving a point and you have nothing to lose. I'll click it and then good luck enforcing and ever collecting the $50. You'll never be able to.

I'll even use my ISP email!

Yeah, totally unoriginal. He was copying you.

Haha only joking Draug, you're a reformed character these days.

I actually object to his insulting of kestas more than his attempt to insult me:

"Also, Kestas, It wouldn't hurt if you tried to fiz your shitty site"

Kestas is just one guy doing his best to make a nice place for us to play Diplomacy, hellalt. He does not deserve your abuse. If you think this site is shitty, then go away and don't use the site. A lot of people would be very happy to see you leave.

At least Hellalt doesn't back out of games when he's about to lose by claiming family emergency.

^
That's how you troll hellalt, if you send me a private message I can teach you for a recurring monthly training fee of $14.95 USD. Please confirm that you accept these terms in the PM and the billing pigeon will be by shortly.

Jamiet99uk +2 for the support of Kestas, but -1 for comparing hellalt's vitriol he saw on a Japanese porn flick to my much more original and creative vitriolic burns. J/K Jamiet.

@Hibiskiss: I'm enjoying your challenge to hellalt.

Hey hellalt, I'm not that wealthy, but I'm going to risk $50 as well, because I agree with Hibiskiss that you don't have much chance of collecting it. I dare you to meet Hibiskiss's challenge. Now you can earn $100 if you can successfully track down both Hibiskiss and me and claim your payment. I bet you can't!

I actually quite enjoy Japanese porn, Draug. But the Germans do it even better.

Agreed, jamiet. German porn is awesome, but only the Japanese seem to be into the whole bukake and puking thing.