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1. Dizzy
2. Yellowjacket
3. zultar
4. Babak
5. President Eden
6. The Hanged Man
7. jmo, Agent K??????

Pool: ghug, goldfinger0303

This line up is looking to be rather fearsome. I don't know if I am ready to donate my GR to such a group. I do find it interesting that people who have called out Dizzy and Yellowjacket have not responded at all to this thread/challenge/invitational.

redhouse carnivore rating is kinda bs because it doesn't take into account the quality of players you go up against.

If a guy like me can find himself in the top 100 of GR (as I will if they ever come OUT) after only 8 games played, it's not fair to say GR is too slow in rewarding new players.

jmo is a loudmouth sissy lol.

You're BS yourself and you couldn't beat me with 5 multis YJ.

Yeah, the carnivore system only rewards win/draw ratio more than quality of the players. You and Dizzy would top the damn list if we go with that. Thank goodness for GR (if it ever comes out...........)

How is the quality of the player not 100% correlated to his win/draw ratio?

Be careful criticizing the carnivore system. It might eat you up.

They are not. If you go through the top say 50 people, you will see a variety of win/draw ratio. Some people only win a single digit percent of the time. There are plenty of players with 30-50% win rate alone whose GR are nowhere in the top 100.
There is to be sure a correlation but it is not by any stretch of the imagination a 100%. If you are willing to calculate their carnivore and compare that with GR, there would be a correlation but I don't think it is as high as you want it to be. You are a physicist, go do a regression analysis on it.

They just explained that redhouse. Go try a game with only good players (top 100 GR for example) for a change. ;) I assure you, you will notice the difference.

I'm not sure they'll have me MrcsAurelius... :( My GR is 338...

Yeah and your system ranks you towards the top...
Case in point. :)

On a more serious note, if you are willing to calculate the carnivore scores for the top 50 people and email them to me, we can study the correlation together.

I did some calculations ages ago when I tried to set up the Carnivore tournament, but work got the best of me then so I didn't have time to set up the tournament. Once I'm out of my current work-surge I'll be setting it up again though.

And I'd also be happy to beat you zultar. You stabbed me several times in the one game we played together and you got a very meager 4 way out of it. Time to try again!

Hmmm, I wasn't going to play anymore games till the summer but this is too good to pass up. Add me in if there's still room.

I can vouch for you redhouse, dont know how much that's worth ;) His GR doesn't reflect his skill, he is far better than his rating suggests. But better yet, he is also very dedicated to a game.. Always answers messages and such, very talkative and involved.

@redhouse: I know why your GR is low, its because you only organize games yourself and don't say no to bad players that want to join. You should consider joining someone else's, who has a good line up. Or be more selective. ;) Try one of the MM invitationals for example :) But maybe you did and you can't tell me. ;)

@zultar: I am interested in that result! :)

"You're BS yourself and you couldn't beat me with 5 multis YJ. "

LOL might just be true. Fortunately, if I used carnivore I'd just play King Atom and 5 of his Virginia educated friends and rack up solos left and right. There wouldn't be any need to play you :P

And you are ranked 338TH in GR, not 338. Big difference :P

That's too much praise MrcsAurelius, but thank you very much.
If you're up for a 24h, classic, WTA then I'm happy to set it up. Yellowjacket and zultar should join as well, but alas, neither will have the courage. Too bad I can't take their points that easily.

Ah look there he is. Thought you dozed off there ;)

lol redhouse I DO want to play you. I like attitude :P.

I've got a commitement to zultar for my next game, but I'll make sure to touch base with you on the next one if you wont be joining us.

Like I said: doesn't have the courage to play me. Always the "yeah sure some other time" story. I know what that means from the dating scene. I use that all the time.

haha lol Babak sneaked in when I wasn't paying attention?!?

man oh man I'm in trouble now. 5 guys in the top 20, Zultar... and ME.

August company to be sure. I'm actually honored Diz and I can draw this kind of crowd.

aww redhouse, I won't play you here yet, but if you're gonna introduce a dating parable you can come over to my house for some F2F anytime you want :P

If I'd have to describe my courship style in Diplo terms it would probably be gunboat, Ancient Mediterranean, Winner Takes All. Still interested?

Ok, I think we have the full list now as long as everyone on the list can agree to start in a couple of weeks per the original request:

1. Dizzy (11)
2. Yellowjacket (255)
3. Zultar (87)
4. Babak (2)
5. President Eden (15)
6. Uclabb (14)
7. Jmo (19)

If for some reasons you can't agree to start the game in a couple of weeks, then the first dib goes to The Hanged Man (20).
I don't think points matter to anybody in this group, so we can decide on that near the start date. So, WTA anon 36-48 hour phase? My inclination is 48 hour phase, but I will go with the majority.
Please feel free to chime in.

@redhouse, yeah that game we played together had two interesting things happening: the unbreakable AI alliance (one of the strongest alliances I have ever seen) and Russia being busy with RL, which distracted him from many good opportunities because he could have dominated the Balkans with his fleets and GR would have overwhelmed the AI since France was doing an excellent job at keeping Italy at bay.

I'd prefer 24 hour phases, but I don't think my opinion really matters haha.

36 would be fine, 48 seems a bit long.

I should mention now that I will be out of country for 2 weeks in early may, and may need pause, so if that's gonna be a problem we should figure it out now.

zultar, YJ, Mrcs, enough with the chit-chat. it is time we all got to business here:
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=81977
PM me for the PW.

@YJ, yeah, this list does seem a bit intimidating, but I think we both expect our GR to climb up in Jan and Feb.
By the way, I am willing to cut YJ out of the invitational for a top 50 player if he/she promises to ally with me through the entire game. :)

I would, in general, vote for 36 hour turns, but 48 is fine too. Points don't matter to me.