Who doesn't report a loss when they have a loss? It doesn't undermine his other successes in business. Who doesn't take a deduction when they can?

Voting is a right, not a privilege.

@brainbomb

you're trying to back Clinton, and you need to stop. The ONLY reason why she's going to win is because
1. Independents don't see a better option
2. Bernie endorsed her
3. Even some Republicans hate Trump

sh eis not a great candidate. She has not been great secretary of state, she has mishandles classified information, ( a counter argument to this is "well it wasn't all labelled as classified" but... some of it was. how do you justify that??? ), she has received through the Clinton foundation more money from foreign leaders than any Secretary of State in the history of our country, and she has run smear campaigns on women who are potential rape victims, and been against Gay marriage (right up until the number's changed in favor of it)

Overall the Trump business has been successful. Maybe not as successful as claimed, but successful. Many ventures have failed, but that's risk. We can't have that same risk level with government.

ISIS has been around since 1998. Pointing. That. Out.

She isn't going to win.

She totally is though

His success is derived from real estate and contracting. The businesses he's attempted in branching out from that he had no clue how to go about so they failed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

*sources*

by the way, a lot of you, (not surprisingly) did not read the links in the OP, or at the beginning, and seem to be of the impression that I am saying Voting is a privilege. The articles in question point out that the people voting for third party candidates, demographically tend to be white males, hence the term "white male privilege". if you don't know what "white privilege" even is, then there isn't much chance you would understand the OP.

@brainbomb

wait... what is white privilege then, as you define it? i legit want to know to clear up terms

@brainbomb

because looking ONLY at raw statistics, there is female privilege in the criminal justice system and ethnic privilege in the collegiate system

"if you don't know what "white privilege" even is, then there isn't much chance you would understand the OP."
I know what it is. I also know it doesn't apply here.

Yanik, thats all well and good, but Obama was also against gay marriage. not to the point of being a bigot about it and wanting to overturn supreme court rulings. He was of the opinion marriage is between a man and a woman. So fuck no I am not going to sit here and hold Hillary under a magnifier of scrutiny over being against gay marriages in the freaking 90's. What you might call flip flopping, I call evolving to meet the needs of an evolving nation, and an evolving political atmosphere. This is the starkest difference between faith based political ideologues and liberals. Faith based politicians cannot escape their own principles, and are incapable of adapting to meet the demands of their changing constituents.

@brainbomb

that was 2004 dipshit :')

And there's a difference of ACTUALLY changing, and pandering for votes.

We adults (TrPrado and I) tend to be able to spot the difference

White Privilege here meaning: these people who wanna go to music festivals and talk about being edgy and cool, and cite one or two political issues and try to talk about how corrupt the system is and how they're gonna be the one to change it all. The truth is, no, you arent, third party candidates arent going to be relevant here, or ever when it comes to the Presidency. You can harp about how you are excercising your rights and yaddy yadda, the fact is, no your just a bunch of spoiled millenial brats who think your own individual opinions and liberties are more important than the issues themselves.

At least ND is taking a principled stand, its batshit crazy but at least I know what I am getting and I know on substance his positions are just pretty much the same neo con shit weve heard since the 1980's.

These third party people are what, less than 10% of the entire electorate? its mostly just young white dudes who have some axe to grind about the political party system. Alot of them supported Ron Paul, or Bernie Sanders, which is fucking hilarious when you think about it...

Ron Paul OR Bernie Sanders.
Or RAND PAUL or Bernie Sanders.

Yea, nothing, bi polar or hypocritical there?

Individuals can't "evolve". They can only adapt. Hillary is adapting to the political atmosphere to save her own career.

When Rand Paul and Bernie fell thru, Gary Johnson was their Obi Wan Kenobi.

@brainbomb

ok.

I do not meet all your criteria.

I do not have the white privilege

Its also common sense leon. Are you against homosexuals being married? what do you care about more, gay people being allowed to be married or the fact Hillary supports that right.

Say what is Pence's position on that subject?
What is Trumps position on that also?
What is the Republican Parties stance on homosexuality in general?

@brainbomb

once again, i'm voting for Clinton, but i still respect people voting for Johnson. Sometimes. It depends

"your ideas aren't practical so they aren't worth having"

that was the Gay movement in the 80s and 90s

@brainbomb

also you're stereotyping ALL 3rd party voters, as radical white teens who aren't smart and have no opinions of their own.

and... that's bigotry

Im not going to be voting on people who want to scale us back to the 1950s, and shunning gay people. I dont really care if Hillary 12 years ago or 30 years ago wasnt fully on board with gay marriage. She is now. Thats what matters. Who is going to get into office and start stripping away peoples rights, and turning over the right to shut down these marriages state by state. These states rights people would LOVE moving to Kansas. Love Love Love, pretty sure Kansas just does whatever they want. There isnt even a single abortion clinic in Kansas, they shut it down. And all these people who say the federal govt is dictating what states do as so fucking full of crap. Just look at Kansas if you want an example of everything the Republican Party stands for, No taxes for the rich. zero revenue. dry state mostly that actually is still using prohibition. no gay marriages, no abortions. Kansas is literally living in 1867.

I think Kansas ranks as one of the most insolvent states in the US currently under their own SELF CREATED taxation policies. which are a direct mirror of what Trump-Pence want us to buy into. its that same trickle down limited govt shit Romney preached. it also just creates insolvency. (something trump is really good at)

I'm going to assume that was meant for someone else, because I've reiterated time and time again that I am not for Republicans

Also:

@brainbomb

you clearly have a warped view of modern Republicans.

search "milo yiannopoulos"

Look at Gov. Scott Walkers accomplishments too. Another guy who took Tea Party economics and turned Wisconsin into an insolvent crime ridden, drunken shit hole.

Wisconsin ranks among the most intoxicated states in the US, with 5 of the top 10 cities being the drunkest per capita, Milwaukee one of the most violent places in America with more police shootings of African Americans than any other city. A state without Unions, zero tax revenue, the guy barely survived a recall for gods sakes.

And this dude is Pence's debate coach. And a beloved Republican. "what has he done?"

Wisconsin is in terrible shape, is this the kind of economics you want applied nationwide?

Yanik, if this election is so hard for you to make a decision on, or really anyone for that matter, then just choose between hot pockets or pizza rolls. I guess thats a decision you youngsters can handle.

@brainbomb

if you're arguing economics, look at democratically controlled metropolitan areas, the poverty rates, and the crime rates.

because Politician's economics: are some of the worst economics you'll ever see