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wjessop (100 DX)
24 Nov 15 UTC
URGENT REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Would anyone be willing to take over the Germany in this game: gameID=169332

If so, the mods will let you take it over before the end of the retreats phase. Would be much appreciated.
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
25 Nov 15 UTC
Non-specific game advice
I am in a game between 4 powers. One of the powers (in the middle of the board) has NMRed several times (he did write in the global chat but did not submit moves), and all the remaining powers benefit from it (some more, some less). Should we vote for a draw, or each one should try to go for a solo?
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Constantinople Meteorological University
gameID=169332
Replacement dearly
Needed; Attila under
The weather. Join now!
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When's the cutoff?
On the Ghost Rating website, it says that "The Ghost-Rating list filters out games where the game ends before Autumn 1903."
So, a game ending immediately after builds of '03 would count for GR?
Would a game ending during Diplomacy of Autumn '03 count for GR?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Nov 15 UTC
Political Poll
The question: Is Ben Carson stupid?

If yes, please answer "yes."
If no, please answer "no."
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LittleItaly (355 D)
01 Nov 15 UTC
Ancient Med: Very Slow Game Cycle (10 Days): 200 pts
Just looking for a relaxed game in SOW style. Missed my chance this season, but I still want to learn the game.
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Vikesrussel (839 D)
24 Nov 15 UTC
Admin Question
Hi.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169413&msgCountryID=2
2 got banned that's great, Can we do something about Italy as well? Who not been at the game for 10 days (almost).
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 Nov 15 UTC
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'War' in Syria?
"The point, of course, is that the West had grown so used to attacking Arab lands - France had become so inured to sending its soldiers and air crews to Africa and the Middle East to shoot and bomb those whom it regarded as its enemies - that only when Muslims began attacking Western capital cities did we suddenly announce that we were "at war"."
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
18 Nov 15 UTC
Any interest in top 50 GR game? Classic full press WTA.
I'd like to set up a highly ranked GR game. If you're interested, please post below (also if you're not top 50 but top 100 or top 150 ;P or ...)

1. MrcsAurelius
2.
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stlwolffman (114 D)
23 Nov 15 UTC
general question
is there a way to set your preferences on which country you get in a new game
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pangloss (363 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
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Did Soldiers Really Die for my Freedom?
Last week was Remembrance Day, and aside from the self-righteous pomp and circumstance that usually accompanies the event, I was also subjected to hearing about why I should care about the "sacrifice" of others. Apparently soldiers died for my freedom.
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sangil (983 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
please cancel game 163772
Please either cancel the game "Official Europe Game IV" (id=163772) or at least eject me from it.
It has been paused since July and annoyingly keeps appearing in my dashboard without any way I can leave, hide or remove it.
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stefanodangello (315 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Interest in a good (WTA, FP) modern game?
Seeing people are again interested in organizing good games here(!!!), anyone interested in playing modern? Bets and phase length to be debated and decided.
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Jamiet99uk (758 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
Rich people worrying about the cost of things most people could never afford
Please offer constructive advice to Adam and Megan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/12000288/We-earn-190k-a-year.-Do-we-need-to-sell-our-flat-to-afford-private-school-fees.html
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brainbomb (290 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Ben Carson compares Syrian Refugees to rabid dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X-yH3U-Avc
Women and children fleeing chemical weapons attacks are now rabid dogs apparently lol.
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pasquaaa (591 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Cheating - Russia and Italy were allied before the game even started - this is unfair
Git Gassed is the game they were allied in

Look at the global chat logs they admitted it
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Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
19 Nov 15 UTC
Any interest in a Mid-Level GR (500-800) Game? Semi-Anon, WTA, FP
Taking the lead from the 50 GR thread, I wanted to set up a game or two for players that I could fit with. Say a 25 D bet, WTA, 24 hour phases?

1. Hamilton Brian (612GR, 100%RR)
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
07 Nov 15 UTC
Gaming laptops
Some help please! In my search for good gaming laptops around the €1000 mark, I am now looking at these 2:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/msi-gp60-2qf-1094nl-gaming-laptop/9200000048904923/#product_specifications
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-aspire-nitro-vn7-572g-511v-gaming-laptop/9200000048907779/#product_specifications
Which is best? Are they both not good? What's wrong with them? Thanks!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Nov 15 UTC
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Discrimination Against White People
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/17/white-americans-long-for-the-1950s-when-they-werent-such-victims-of-reverse-discrimination/

We used to have it so easy. Now we still have it easy, but so do some others, though it's still not as easy for them as it is for us. I don't like it. Let's go back.
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trip (696 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
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Greedy Oceans Discriminate Against Deserts!
They won't share any of their water even though they're already teeming with life.

I DEMAND JUSTICE!!! #fuckoceans #DLM
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BlackJackP74 (263 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
New World Game....Join Now!
Hello, everyone! I'd like to inform everyone of a World Diplomacy game. As of this moment, it requires 6 more people to make a full game. I'd appreciate it if we could mae a full one...as World games are always fun and chaotic at the same time. Thanks, and have a great day!
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
NHL All-Star Game
So the NHL has announced a 3-on-3 format for the All-Star Game this season. I believe this format devalues defensemen in that, in a 3-on-3 match, both sides will field a center and 2 wingers to increase scoring chances at the cost of solid defensive play. The NHL has a long history of great defensemen, so I don't believe it is fair to devalue them by devaluing their usefulness in the All-Sta Game (ergo, less All-Star appearances for defensemen versus scorers).
Thoughts?
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Hipe99 (100 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
New Player Game
Hi, I'm doing a game for new players, anyone want to join?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=170048
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brainbomb (290 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
Modern Diplomacy favors Turkey

I've looked at most of the active games, including a few i'm in. I noticed that in almost every single one of them on Modern Dip II, Turkey is always winning at the end of the game. Has anyone ever seen Turkey get wiped out?
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brainbomb (290 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
Who is the sorest loser?
An Italy that doesnt get is way
Or a Russia that gets triple ganged
Share your experiences here
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
Droids rights
With the upcoming release of Star Wars 7, a question occurs to me. Are droids in facts slaves and if so is this okay?
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Ogion (3882 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
turkey needed for gunboat
Well apparently some players in a game entitled to encourage a lack of CDs want to play on with a banned player, so we need a replacement turkey. The position is more decent if you consider the necessary allegiances in place given the position. It'd be a fun challenge to make something of this and far from impossible.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169256#gamePanel
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brainbomb (290 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
Anyone interested in taking over a Fantasy Football team?
im LM for a 14 team league on ESPN and the Standings are crazy. We had 2 people both completely fail at managing teams the problem is theyre both playoff contenders as 8 teams advance. Heres the standings.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
03 Nov 15 UTC
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Mafia XIV Game Thread
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Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
My worry right now is this. Wjessop you are targeting me and know that I will respond. Anything I do you can say is scummy. I do truly believe that you are town right now and seeing me for what I am doing, being scummy, but you could just as easily be scum trying to manipulate me. I was highly trusting of bo in M11 and am highly trusting of him as well, he defended me and still keeps his options open to lynch me d2, that could be buddying and trying to get me to believe in him as I did in M11. Yoyo comes in and out, doesn't really say a lot but appears to be around. That makes a good scum team. vecna is acting confident for being so new to the game, but was also switching votes to the popular one which is scummy, although right now he has an excuse that he is at a tournament, D1 and N1 he wasn't that active. Guak has a meta for lurking a lot, so he could be doing it to lie low or because he is scum and not wanting to get caught or give evidence. Jeff/Meme have been in an out just like Yoyo but they have done less, obviously scummy and the fact that so many people want them dead while there is also a big town read on them worries me. DL is less active then I expected him to be, pops in and out and still doesn't say much. Maniac is also not that active although he made an excuse, if this excuse is real his activity is understandable, if not he could be trying to reverse our scum reads on him so that he can survive, he also town read me which could be him thinking he has won me over.

That is my current thought on everyone in the game. All of which doesn't really connect any possible scum-teams.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@bo hi bo. Please tell me if I am acting crazy right now. I don't know if wjessop and yoyo were trying to set me up or being genuine.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@bo what did Maniac lie about in his reads? For my percentages it was the closest I could describe my reads on people. I asked WJ about his ghug comment already and he has been avoiding answering.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@bo: I thought ghug might die because he's generally regarded as a strong player. Mafia use NKs to remove players they see as threatening, so I was expecting ghug, you, or myself to be NKed.

Perhaps there was no "need" for me to say it -- there's probably little "need" for us to say much on anything at all. This is game where we talk to each other, and I like talking.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
"You straight up lied in your reads. Explain yourself. $$VOTE Maniac "

@Bo: Be specific. What "lies" did Maniac provide?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Nov 15 UTC
The lie, in his read of guak:

"His (guak's) playstyle really suited a town PR last game but we also know that mafia guak likes to keep a low profile."

If any combination of Maniac, goldfinger, or myself ever claims that mafia guak likes to keep a low profile, it is a scum slip. In fact, guak's low profile is exactly why I have townread him so far (though if he keeps it up, that may change). In M7, guak bussed me ridiculously hard on D1, followed by each of his partners. In my opinion, guak's play in M7 was the most aggressive and, as I said in the god thread after the game, best game as mafia that I had ever seen to that point.

This is Maniac looking for an easy target that is unlikely to be lynched, just as he did when he went after me back when I went back-and-forth with Espi. Note how he has backed off of both Espi, who he passively attacked on D1, and myself since we started coming after him. Note that he continues to lurk and claim that he is busy, but he never once felt the need to claim he was busy until people started pressuring him over it. And, of course, note that he blatantly lied in this read in pursuit of an easy target that is not likely to get lynched. He's hiding in broad daylight.

I'll respond to other things and talk more tomorrow evening. I'm busy until then.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@wj Good, that is you acting like a town again.

@bo we still have a problem about not knowing who Maniacs partners are.

##VOTE Maniac
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@Espi: maybe you see yourself as "acting". I'm not acting, I'm just town.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@wj bad choice of words, does not tunneling work better?
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@wj I also didn't see you voting for Jeff after I did when you asked me to vote for him.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@wj you also didn't read my post and comment if i was right about how the chain of events would likely go.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
"@wj I also didn't see you voting for Jeff after I did when you asked me to vote for him."

Why on earth would you think I should vote for Jeff just because you did?

Your vote lasted less than an hour before you switched back to Maniac.

Also, you declare that you've been putting on a pretence, and now you're doing it again.

You're completely untrustworthy.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
@Bo: After I pushed him, Espi has finally admitted to putting on an act in this game, an act that he knows he can't keep up.

Why do you ignore this? Surely this is another reason to vote Espi?
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
This is not be putting on a pretense. This is me waiting for your contribution. I just suggested a very plausible chain of events that you can't deny is what is going to happen. You should be telling me if I am completely off the mark about it, or if I am right. If I am right then we need to do something about it, if I am wrong then I am untrustworthy and putting on a pretense and you can ignore me.

Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Fine Wjessop, this is my joking around at your expense.

I am scum.

But now I am a known scum that can be lynched at any time. Please find my 2 scum buddies to win this thing. I believe in you. ND believes in you. Blood and ghug believe in you.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Now can we get back to winning this thing? Does my post above make you happy?
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Thanks for another helpful contribution, Espi.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
No problemo.

Thank you for ignoring every helpful contribution I have tried to give.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
The Espi Paradox.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
So wjessop, what will it be. You have either won and I have confessed to being scum, or I am just trying to get you to stop tunneling. Will you find my 2 buddies now?
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Find them and I will vote for myself.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
My guess is Jeff Kuta and Yoyo.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
And what is your case on them?
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Already outlined.

Not repeating myself now for your pleasure. I'm going to bed very shortly.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
You also have 4 options right now.

1) I am scum and you caught between 1 and 3 of us. In which case congratulations. I will follow your vote onto any of us 3 as long as you build a case on us as a team.
2) I am scum and you did not catch either or both of my teammates. I will also follow your vote onto any of us as above.
3) I am not scum and you just caught 2 people who could be town but who I feel aren't the ideal lynch candidates. I will follow your vote onto any of us as above.
4) I am not scum and you just caught 2 people who might be scum. I will follow your vote onto any of us as above.

Does that make you feel any better about yourself? I don't think it should. Is it scummy of hell of me to do, yes. It is my having fun with you because being honest isn't enough.

I am either having a laugh at you right now, I think you are onto us, or I think you are a stupid town who is going to lose the game for us.

Make your call.
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Your reasons for thinking of us as targets are as follows, correct me if I am wrong

Espi- I am scummy and scumslipped a lot, I also acted
Jeff- Was on Espi and is likely bussing
Yoyo- Wasn't on Espi but is likely just the third of the team.

That is no case. Build a case. Convince not only me but the rest of the town that you are right. Also do you want me to vote for myself, because I will if it pleases you.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
I've already stated my reasons on Jeff. You're just being self-centered, yet again.
wjessop (100 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
I'm off to bed. Good night! :)
Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
This is your case, or as much of it as felt like a case, from the last 10 pages. You haven't tried to compile anything together as a case, you just left jumbled bits here and there. That is not a convince case. Please tell me if I missed anything, or if you feel I am misrepresenting your case in anyway. Also you forgot Vecna.

Page 26- "The votes for ND came in think and fast at the end; clearly scum did in fact decide to jump on ND and get a townie lynched.
ND, 7 votes: ghug, wjessop, Espi, Vecna, Yoyoyozo, Maniac (and DeathLlama)
We have to assume that at least 1 of the voters here is scum.
Maybe even 2 of the voters."

"Let's analyse the final vote count, assuming that scum would have split themselves somehow.
I've removed ND's solo-crusade vote on me, so that (as BloodWolf has also gone), we have the list of everyone left in the game and who they votes for:
ND (7): ghug, wjessop, Espi, Vecna, Yoyoyozo, Maniac, DeathLlama8
Espi (2): guak, Jeff Kuta
Maniac (1): bo_sox48
Look at the list again and assume that scum split their vote at least between two people:
ND (7): ghug, wjessop, Espi, Vecna, Yoyoyozo, Maniac, DeathLlama8
**1 or 2 potential scum in this group**
Espi (2): guak, Jeff Kuta **1 scum potentially here**
Maniac (1): bo_sox48 **1 scum potentially here**
Essentially, this means that we can break our scum search between players in to 2 categories:
Category 1, ND voters: ghug, wjessop, Espi, Vecna, Yoyoyozo, Maniac, DeathLlama8
Category 2, non-ND voters: guak, Jeff Kuta, bo_sox48 "
""wjessop, you and I are obvious scum reads from that, probably me more than you. We were 2 of NDs scum reads and we lead a lynch against him when he turned out to be cop."
I think Maniac is soft-cleared. I also think DeathLlama could get a tentative softclear for bringing up the quotations from captainmeme, which almost certainly implicate a scum player now that we know the actual cop is dead.
This leads me to think that the scum team is Jeff Kuta + 2 of Espi/Yoyo/Vecna. "

Page 31- "@Jeff: Captainmeme made 2 clear breadcrumbs for the role of investigator.
The investigator is dead -- meme was fake breadcrumbing.
This is almost certainly scum indicative.
you replaced captainmeme, so I'm voting for you."

"Everyone take note: ND made himself viable as a target at the right moment for mafia to take the heat off of Espi.
Jeff Kuta + Espi are almost certainly 2 of our scumteam.
Maniac is being pushed by them both, because Maniac has become an easy punch bag. "

"@Yoyo:
Ok, I can provide the list of players rated as you set forth. Here's my list
1. DeathLlama - 60%
2. Maniac - 55%
3. guak- 55%
4. bo - 50.1%
5. Vecna - 49.9%
6. Yoyo - 30%
7. Jeff Kuta - 5% - on the basis of the fake breadcrumbing, and his entire Day 1 contribution.
8. Espi 0% confidence -- lovely guy, but in this game he is utterly useless and very scummy."

"Yes, thanks for making everyone aware of that.
Of course, you will try and bus each other at this point.
Espi, you and Jeff are the two scummiest guys in the game, in relation to what you've contributed -- you're both extremely likely to be lynch candidates today -- the only other likely candidates for lynch are Maniac and myself.
Maniac/wjessop = town
Jeff/Espi = scum
Your attempts to reignite the Maniac/wjessop candidacy hasn't taken off yet, so right now it would make sense to put your votes on each other, in an attempt to gain credibility if you're part of the wagon that lynches a scum player. "


Page 32- "SCUM SLIP ALERT.
Espi says above: "So, you think ghug was wrong about Jeff and I, and that him thinking Maniac was scum was wrong? I think he is a much better player than that wjessop."
This looks like a scum slip to me.
Explanation: It is clear that Espi is exploiting ghug's town read here, because ghug was town reading both Espi and Jeff Kuta.
Slip: One reason mafia kill town players is that dead townies can't change their minds.
Slip: Espi is trying to do exactly this right now by saying "hey look, dead ghug said Jeff and me are town, can't argue with that". It's a standard scum tactic and Espi is being FAR TOO BLATANT about it.
Verdict: This is why Jeff and Espi would have NightKilled ghug in Night 1 -- a) removes a good player; and b) ghug's final read gave clears to our two main scum targets."

"THIS IS CLASSIC SCUM TACTICS.
"DEAD TOWNIES CAN'T CHANGE THEIR MINDS".
It's one of the things I learnt when I played M9."

Espi (338 D)
07 Nov 15 UTC
Night night, I should be off as well.

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KingCyrus (511 D)
18 Nov 15 UTC
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New Forum Etiquette Rules
From now on, all members of the forum shall be placed under scrutiny while debating. We shall rely on citizens of the forum making sound judgment calls. The necessary tools to perform these duties are here:

http://tinyurl.com/ou4p4t5
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