lol dude middle school is not a training ground for anything. middle school doesn't even count at all

middle school is diapers, high school is the sandbox, undergrad is the training zone, grad and beyond is real life

@invictus: Well where else am I supposed to go for help?

Don't care. This is getting creepy.

@PE: Most people who weren't losers had boyfriens/girlfriends in middle school. That was how they learned to interact with girls. Even if isn't a training ground for life, it's a training ground for high school, and that is training that I missed.

no they didn't

they had buddies of the opposite sex who would go watch movies and hold hands with them

that's not a relationship

Gabby? You mean my Sister Gabby? Who is in 8th grade and is 14 or 13 (I forget). talks to a 15 year old when she goes to church all the time? You whack off to her? IM GONNA KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look, it's CM...with another thread...

CM- Go to the library, take out a book entitled "The Game" read it, practice it, and then enjoy your superficial relationships like the rest of your peers.

@santa: Someone mentioned that on the last thread. I hdespise pickup artists, so obviusly I despise that book.

@PE: There was alos generally kissing involved. Anyway, it is still some sort of relationship. I NEVER said it was a romantic relationship. It's just a relationship. I have a relationship (friendship) with all my friends who are guys. It doesn't mean I'm in love with them. The relationship between these middle schools boys and girls is a bit more than friendship. And it's practice for high school relationships, which are a bit like romantic relationships, and those relationships are in turn practice for the real romantic relationships of adulthood. But I missed out on the first set of practice relationships. I don't have the experiences the majority of guys my age already have, which puts them a step ahead of me in getting girls.

Con Man- You are not 25, you are 15, it is perfectly normal for you to start dating right now shut the hell up and go talk to some girls

or a shrink, key thing is to shut the hell up

CM, you know how I was against teen dating before you dissapeared. Well I met this girl and all of a sudden it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. DO NOT FALL DOWN THIS TRAP! My grades are suddenly slipping, I'm all out of money, and I'm up all night (for a different reason than what you're thinking). Girls will give you all kinds of things, but in the end it's not worth it to start this early.

@SC: But it's harder for me to start dating right now because I don't have the experience most guys have.

Uh... dude, the only way you're going to get experience is by *dating people*. You've gotta start somewhere.

@TB: I know, I'm just afraid girls will choose someone else over me because they have more experience than me (or, the guy with more experience than me will be able to flirt with the girl better and more effectively and she'll choose him over me.

Christ, I'm glad the web wasn't invented until after I finished puberty (although I think I would have had the good sense not to vomit forth my emotions in a forum full of people I had never met).

and mute.

Did CM just ignore me, or does he have me on mute? I wouldn't be surprised either way...

@Abge "@CM I feel we've given you advice on this subject ad nauseam."

What's the matter Abge? Seems I called this little pervert out about a month ago, and you idiots (not you alone, but ALL of you!) keep feeding this fucking demented pervert's fantasies. He is probably jacking off to all of your replies by now.

Again....if this fucking little retard ever got anywhere NEAR my daughters, he would find the unpleasant end of a gun shoved up his fucking nose. He is a creepy fucking pervert and he needs ***serious*** mental therapy. He is *obsessed* with sex and need to seek some help.

krellin/Centurion: Which ever one of you posted, you know I have you muted right?

And for all of you IDIOTS telling him to profess his love, ask her to date, etc.....she is fucking *13* you morons! If you think any rational father is going to let their **13** year old daughter date, let alone *exclusively* date some horny demented fool,....then you are either not a parent, or are the most horrible parent ever.

SHE is *13*! Thsi fucking pervert is masturbating to her, and you idiots think he should confess his love, date her, etc??!?!?! Do you have ANY fucking idea what you are saying????

I am 16 here, again as mentioned before, but Krellin definitely has a point (I can't believe I am going to say this, but I have to agree with him) Fathers of 13 year old daughters are in no way going to let a 15 year old take them on a date. I mean, unless you consider a date being watched by security camera's sitting on a couch watching PG movies. (trust me, I've been there, and never went back). Parents aren't like they used to be, they are protecting their kids until 19-20. They don't want them getting pregnant in high school, and getting their lives ruined because of 1 bad choice.

So that's what he was saying. I'm afraid I must agree here.

It's not even just the idea of "dating" a kid. It's the insight we have into THIS particular kid. CM is **obsessed** with possessing a girl, with being her first, with having her obsess over him and need him, he has sexual fantasies about being her first...and please, we are not taling about her first kiss, but her first dick. ConservativeMan is the complete ANTI-THESIS of a Conservative, because his desires for sexual interaction go against everything a "Conservative" would profess. In truth, ConservativeMan ought to be renamed "Porno-Man", because he previously has professed the good inherent to porn, and he is of the mindset that a smile and a wink ought to get him some 13-year-old ass. He is a disgusting, perverted pig.

Again.. Agreed. My current GF and I know that doing that shit would just ruin both of our school lives. We both Average A's in every subject. I mean, CM, your really more of a creeper than someone that the girl would love. You need to realize that girls aren't a sex toy. You don't need to beat off to her, you need to realize if you actually like her for her, not her appearance. And to start, you should talk to her, and not get a hard-on. Because that is the creepiest shit ever. And if you wack off to her, you probably do that too. Man, you've got to get yourself under control before you want to make a move on getting a GirlFriend.

@schmoo: I DO NOT THINK GIRLS ARE SEX TOYS, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THAT! THAT'S WHAT MY DAD THINKS, AND I AM NOTHING LIKE MY DAD!

okay, screaming over. Now, are you telling me it's abnormal for a guy to masturbate to girls he likes? That makes no sense to me? I've always assumed that that's completely normal. It feels perfectly natural to me. I don't have her right now, but I really want her, so I fantasize. And as I said before, half of my fantasies of her were about falling in love with her, not sex, so how is that treating her like a sex toy?

Actually this is weird. Your a fucking creep. Nuff said.

Conservative Man has DADDY ISSUES!!!!! LOL How fucking hillarious/ OBVIOUS was that. He probably masturbates over Daddy, too...

And, jackass, it isnt' about whether you do "normal" things. It's about whether you obsess over having sex with a *13* year old, you fucking pervert. And you don't just want to have sex with her; you have been obsessing over her for weeks, and not just about lustful things, but about *controlling* her. You have ABNORMAL desires....just like your Daddy apparently.

Scmoo....he needs to get himself under control before he rapes someone, honestly. the shit this idiot says over and over and over again are all the signs of an obsessive stalker/rapist. This jackass scares the hell out of me. If I had *nay* idea who he was in real life, I'd be half tempted to turn his fucking forums posts over to the authorities....or at the very least his church Pastor. this kid **seriously** needs help.

The idea that he professes to be such a good christian conservative, and only 'knows" this girl from seeing her in passing in church (but never really talking to her) and yet is **so** sexually obsessed with her is truly fucking demented.

He's the worst kind of hypocrite. A dangerous, sexually obsessed pervert....