Hahaha!
No way man! Mush makes you so aware of everything. It's as though it slows down time to let you see and appreciate every little detail.
Seriously: if I get the chance, I'll try it out in a live game! hahaha

We should try to host a drug induced live game, where each player takes a different drug with one sober person as a control

Say: Alcohol, Pot, Coke, LSD, Shrooms, and Heroin

Only problem is that half the board may CD in 1901.....

if all people in the server smoked some weed, the games would probably end in a draw by 1902 :p

Fall 1901 negotiations

"Hey man, why don't we all just get our neutrals, and call it a draw? Everyone goes home happy, man"

like 7 switzerlands.. talking serious, some of the best move/diplomatic tactics I made work, was when I was high as a kite.

@Putin33: The problem is not about people who buy, but about people who sell. So if you want to stop narcotraffic, legalize. People will still consume pot, no matter what.
If not, take a look at history ... the dry law (same idea on different drug: alcohol) didn't solve the alcholism problem. On the contrary, it generated narcotraffic.

"If not, take a look at history ... the dry law (same idea on different drug: alcohol) didn't solve the alcholism problem. On the contrary, it generated narcotraffic."

I already went over this. See my numerous links about the effectiveness of prohibition.

Everywhere pot has been remotely "legalized", usage has skyrocketed and cartels have been affected. If anything they have strengthened.

Never tried it and only been drunk twice in my life. The why is I just don't have a desire to kill braincells or alter my perceptions in any way.

Portugal has legalized all drugs, they seem to be doing ok

Question: Isn't sex the ultimate drug? Shouldn't we be making that illegal too?

"Portugal has legalized all drugs, they seem to be doing ok"

No, they haven't. And no they're not.

"Question: Isn't sex the ultimate drug? Shouldn't we be making that illegal too?"

You're the one who whined about this thread being "politicized".

hey putin, a discussin on internet is a lost discussion from scratch (doens't matter how right you are, it's completely in vain). You won't convince people that prohibition is right no more than they (we) will convince you it's wrong. You put your posture, like the other people did, that's the end of it. I know that you feel like you need to answer every msgs sent to you. I almost felt like answering to you, looking for numbers to tell it's wrong, the difference between places in which is legalized and places in which is only decriminalized the use, etc, but it just don't make sense.

Putin, would you consider trying homegrown pot? Perhaps baked, to avoid the adverse health effects from smoking.

homegrown pot is the end of narcotraffic. Man you put a seed on the grass and in 5 moth you have your personal marihuana to consume it in the way you want.
and for fuck sake, who in his right mind would porhibit the growing of a plant?! It's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. That plant existed before the man even get together and form civilizations with it's laws. It's like saying: bananas are bad, extra potasium increases chances of Hyperkalemia, we are encarcelating any person who tries to grow a banana tree (Banano in spanish, not sure if there's a transaltion for it... anyway i made my point)

@Putin

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization

Dipshit

"hey putin, a discussin on internet is a lost discussion from scratch "

Oh I'm painfully aware.

Yes I've gone over the Cato report multiple times in other threads. It's not serious and is done by a libertarian think tank dedicated to legalization.

http://saude.sapo.pt/noticias/saude-medicina/consumo-de-heroina-cresceu-57-5-nos-ultimos-anos.html

"You're the one who whined about this thread being 'politicized'. "

When the hell did I say that?

Putin....King Atom....FAIL THREAD!

Here's an old post on this very subject.

"I'm glad you all know better than students what is in their interest when it comes to drug laws.

Massive decriminalisation and addict treatment in portugal has reduced addictgion rates and probably lowered use. The money saved on enforcement can be thrown at treatment - even without regulation and taxation at the point of sale..."

Not really true.

“Portugal keeps on being the country with the most cases of injected drug related AIDS (85 new cases per one million of citizens in 2005, while the majority of other EU countries do not exceed 5 cases per million) and the only one registering a recent increase. 36 more cases per one million of citizens were estimated in 2005 comparatively to 2004, when only 30 were referred ” (EMCDDA - November 2007).

- Since the implementation of decriminalization in Portugal, the number of homicides related to drug use has increased 40%. "Portugal was the only European country to show a significant increase in homicides between 2001 and 2006."
(WDR - World Drug Report, 2009)

"With 219 deaths by drug 'overdose' a year, Portugal has one of the worst records, reporting more than one death every two days. Along with Greece, Austria and Finland, Portugal is one of the countries that recorded an increase in drug overdose by over 30% in 2005".
(EMCDDA – November 2007)

The number of deceased individuals that tested positive results for drugs (314) at the Portuguese Institute of Forensic Medicine in 2007 registered a 45% raise climbing fiercely after 2006 (216). This represents the highest numbers since 2001 – roughly one death per day - therefore reinforcing the growth of the drug trend since 2005.
(Portuguese IDT – November 2008)

- “Behind Luxembourg, Portugal is the European country with the highest rate of consistent drug users and IV heroin dependents”.
(Portuguese Drug Situation Annual Report, 2006)


- Between 2001 and 2007, drug use increased 4.2%, while the percentage of people who have used drugs (at least once) in life, multiplied from 7.8% to 12%. The following statistics are reported:

Cannabis: from 12.4% to 17%
Cocaine: from 1.3% to 2.8%
Heroine: from 0.7% to 1.1%
Ecstasy: from 0.7% to 1.3%.
(Report of Portuguese IDT 2008)

- “There remains a notorious growing consumption of cocaine in Portugal, although not as severe as that which is verifiable in Spain. The increase in consumption of cocaine is extremely problematic.”
(Wolfgang Gotz, EMCDDA Director - Lisbon, May 2009)

- “While amphetamines and cocaine consumption rates have doubled in Portugal, cocaine drug seizures have increased sevenfold between 2001 and 2006, the sixth highest in the world”.
(WDR - World Drug Report, June 2009)

Also, for a case closer to home, marijuana-related crime has risen significantly since 'de-criminalization' was implemented in Massachusetts.

http://thecrimereport.org/2010/11/16/pot-related-trafficking-violence-rises-after-ma-decriminalization/

Sorry, I meant to tag Hugo for that.

Maybe, but the war on drugs is still an epic failure.

Also, it's not really a war on drugs, its a war on personal freedom

Putin is *very* selective on the "facts" he chooses to report. We all know this. Liars lie. Putin is a liar. Putin is a person that believes in denying freedom for his perverted version of Utopia (i.e. do what he wants you to do, now what you want to do). Putin is a Hitler-wanna-be....a Stalin-wanna-be....because YOU are TOO STUPID to have freedom, and Putin knows best.

Funny thing is....if Putin is so smart....how come we have never heard of him In real life?

Ohhhhh....because he is a moronic asshole, that's why. Becuase he lies about topics, he skews statistics, he quotes "Studies" that have been bought and paid for to achieve a goal. Putin is the first and foremost fraud of whatever topic he promotes.

+1000 Pantera

If by "epic failure" you mean that drug use has declined from 25 million users (in 1979) to 15 million (in 2005) then sure, it's a "failure".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBnaA3LpZ4

my doctor added Abilify to my anti-depressants and now i feel better.....