Trump is best president in modern times. MAGA

It might not be exactly the same to be a 'perver' than a 'macho'

If you think that statement renders someone to be "macho" rather than a sick pervert then you yourself have a problem

Well DemonOverlord that whole exchange with Billy Bush is a good example of his lack of respect for women, but I think the better example that he is a pervert is him bragging about going into the dressing rooms at the beauty pageants he owned. Some of the girls in the Miss Teen USA pageant were 15, 16, 17 and in the dressing room they would be in various stages of undress. That is more in line with the actions of a pervert.

well I won't deny I'm a pervert, but even if it's just to have something about to really discuss, my point was, it would have been nice that G G explaing HIS inspiration for that word. Or maybe he was just insulting?

Or maybe it's common knowledge why Trump is a pervert and explaining it is generally unnecessary

and then stating it would be equally generally unnecessary...

any way, just curios, your definition for 'pervert'?

I imagine because being a pervert is generally considered a negative quality and so having a pervert as the country's most public representative many people would consider reflects poorly on the country. So the question is why was a pervert elected? Because it is unusual. At least for the president to be blatantly and openly perverted. I mean, past presidents may have had what are considered perverted tendencies, but they kept them under wraps so we do not know about them.

Perversion can mean many different things to different people, but in general sexual attraction to underage children by middle aged people is deemed perverted.

are you saying that Trump is sexually attracted by underage children?

no, seriously, it's certainly noticable that a guy that said what DO quoted was elected, but, when you say 'blatantly and openly perverted', what exactly you mean?

You mean in addition to walking into a dressing room to ogle underage girls.

Well some of the things that he has said about his daughter are disquieting and creepy, some might call them perverted.

Yeah, but in the past week or so Ted Cruz, Jon Snow, and Daenarys Targaryen all proved that incest = wincest, so that's no biggie.

Right. Was it 17 women who had come forward after being molested by Trump? Yeah. bill was so much worse. Yeah. Right.

All the webDip libertarians on board with Trump's recent Screw yous to the Freedom Cuckus? (That's spelled right, yeh?)

Personally, I'm glad I didn't have to vote for either of them.

But wait, no one else HAD to either.

Trump won because of
a) the lack of a credible alternative,
b) the vagaries of the US electoral system (which you don't hold a monopoly on) and c) because whilst individuals are generally quite intelligent, electorates are collectively quite thick.

@"As opposed to a Trump who literally stole a Purple Heart? Again, people complaining about Clinton being dishonest when Trump lied far far far far more is simply not credible"

@"So the question is why was a pervert elected? Because it is unusual. At least for the president to be blatantly and openly perverted."

So there is a feeling that Trump is more 'honest' based not on his facts, but his openess about racism and his misogyny. Other politicians are too politically correct and Trump is a refreshingly honest shit stain of a human being. I suspect the 'Hillary is dishonest' comes with uears of her being very political - trying to say the right thing to get her desired policy implemented. And Trump as a businessman has only got a history of honest fraud to his name.

Also, this: https://theintercept.com/2017/09/13/the-clinton-book-tour-is-largely-ignoring-the-vital-role-of-endless-war-in-the-2016-election-result/

An about that sniper fire business, she was entering the most dangerous theater any member of the first family has gone into since pretty much the civil war. They had all kinds of precautions against sniper fire and everyone there was pretty clear about the assault take off and landing protocols, the fact that they were told to rush because of the risks. Long story short, she'd taken more personal risk than anybody in the white house (could you imagine Shrub or Ivanka oing this? hahahaha!). So, she misspeaks ("coming in under risk of sniper fire" would certainly have been true, one time, and she becomes "dishonest" despite objectively telling the truth more than any other candidate and several TIMES more often than Trump does. Again, no objective accounting for reality supports that notion, so an different explanation must be the reason. Pretty clear that the double standard here has to do with some pretty rampant sexism.

And the notion that the MOST experienced, most credible candidate to run for the office in decades (George HW Bush came close) wasn't a "credible candidate" is very telling about your attitudes, Dippy. Very very very telling

Note that Principians is apparently of the opinion that men who engage in sexual assault aren't perverts unless their victims are underage. Think about how incredibly disgusting that attitude is. Unfreaking believable.

Typical American savage.

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Ogion, BS there had not been any sniper fire anywhere near there for months, and 6 SF teams were deployed weeks in advance of the landing, and had everythign outside a mile secured.

Take it from the people who were THERE that there was not any credible source for that fear, and she exactly said "we landed under sniper fire" This is a flat out LIE.

You can call it whatever you like, but a s a Vet and someone who did time there, it was honestly disgraceful.

And they did not rush either. They were greeted on the ground by children, exchanged some pleasantries with the locals....there was not any rushing thru involved. Trust me, you were not there.

That's nonsense. I AM relying on people who were actually on the flight. One of the reporters who was on that flight said that they had taken measures out of concerns about snipers. So, yeah, I'll take the word of someone who was there over someone with an agenda to push. Thanks.

And you weren't there either, Bucko.

And you still have to translate one statement eight years early into a long record of tens of thousands of statements. One misstatement doesn't outweigh tens of thousands of false statements made by Trump. The fact that you equate those tells us about your double standards

@Ogion

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/23/recalling-hillary-clintons-claim-of-landing-under-sniper-fire-in-bosnia/?utm_term=.769c62760cfe

watch that video. at the VERY LEAST she exaggerated it.

unless if the WashingtonPost is now right wing propaganda

HRC was a horrible, corrupt candidate. How many times did she get caught lying? Like the time she gave a speech to Goldman Sachs and called us all rubes and said she will say whatever she needs to say to get votes. But when push comes to shove, HRC will support the fucking banks? That's your candidate, Democrats? I am not a misogynist because HRC as a candidate made me sick. I voted for Jill Stein. Get a better candidate, Democrats.

That's a pretty good link by orathiac.