##vote xorxes as previously agreed

I have zero stated reason. dont give a fuck what anyone has to say about it either. going with my gut here

Okay, Jamiet, that responses makes sense. I'm not 100% on how I missed that before.

Brainbomb - What?

Im off work now and ready to defend town should a blitz happen.

Mafia XVIII Day 1
Official Vote Count 10.0:

y2kjbk (3): DemonRHK, Yoyoyozo, krellin
captainmeme (4): WardenDresden, Jamiet99uk, Vecna, brainbomb
Chaqa (3): trip, OB_GYN_Kenobi, MoscowFleet
xorxes (3): y2kjbk, goldfinger0303, Hellenic Riot
teacon7 (1): VashtaNeurotic
MoscowFleet (4): ghug, Chaqa, Maniac, captainmeme
OB_GYN_Kenobi (1): reedeer1
krellin (1): xorxes

Unvoted (2): ND, teacon7

Currently NOBODY is set to be lynched!

You have 12 minutes remaining until the end of Election Day 1!

Warden - I don't think I'm going to get HR lynched today. I'd prefer to ensure one of my townreads doesn't get lynched instead.

Mafia XVIII Day 1
Official Vote Count 10.0:

y2kjbk (3): DemonRHK, Yoyoyozo, krellin
captainmeme (4): WardenDresden, Jamiet99uk, Vecna, brainbomb
Chaqa (3): trip, OB_GYN_Kenobi, MoscowFleet
xorxes (3): y2kjbk, goldfinger0303, Hellenic Riot
teacon7 (1): VashtaNeurotic
MoscowFleet (4): ghug, Chaqa, Maniac, captainmeme
OB_GYN_Kenobi (1): reedeer1
krellin (1): xorxes

Unvoted (2): ND, teacon7

Currently NOBODY is set to be lynched!

You have 11 minutes remaining until the end of Election Day 1!

##vote xorxes

Sorry, that last one should be @OB not Warden.

@meme: move to xorxes if you don't want to die... I don't think you're scum but I'm fine with xorxes or Moscow.

You can tell it to Charon when you cross styx bud. I dont buy the bullshit sinister way your behaving. AT ALL

##Call GM

Can you agree for only one of you to do the vote counts for the rest of this phase please because there's been more vote counts than posts in the past couple of pages...

@xorx: Claiming PR would be a terrible town play. You've probably posted more than I have, sure. My read on you "laying low" has to do with the little response to the votes currently cast on you. Silly votes, perhaps, but votes nonetheless. Then again, it's not like you're in danger of a lynch, so I'll be happy to let it drop for now. If you get more votes, I'd expect you to defend yourself, right?

@HR: Ugh. If you're right, then my system is screwed. I guess we'll see what I get or don't get.

So capt. I made my response to you. Are you going to respond at all?

I took a look at the quote that was suggested: “Just a question about the game: Are the mafia discussing in a separate thread right now? Or do they only talk during "night"?” (MoscowFleet, 21)

I wish I had been present today for this second half of the day because quite a bit appears to have happened. I will be writing more comments later combined some of my thoughts on the first half of the phase. I do think that MoscowFleet is acting suspicious because look at this quote: “A big thanks to the mods for setting this up, as well as Prez Eden for the how-to guide and the other people who have given advice to newbies like me.” (MoscowFleet, 18)

I saw this in my catch up and it spiked my interest, but I haven’t quite gotten to page 27 yet. Still this does look like a scumslip to me. On 21 he is ‘clueless’ regarding how the mafia interact, yet he mentions the President Eden mafia guide. Obviously he is familiar with the game if he has read the guide.

##VOTE MOSCOWFLEET

Brainbomb, that's scummy as hell. You had me as a top townread early on in the game, and never properly explained why, and now you move to vote for me for no reason also? How are my voting habits imitating those last game?

Also, did nobody read this?

"Okay, I don't like the Xorxes lynch very much now. Him switching off Y2k when Y2k is looking like a safe(ish) lynch doesn't make a massive amount of sense if he's scum, unless he's scum with MoscowFleet and is trying to save them by moving the Moscow voters."

Riot - your response just reiterated your own argument for lynching him. It didn't point out any flaws in my argument against it whatsoever, which was what I was looking for.

I think you underestimated xorxes. I rate him pretty solidly and I think he could see that the y2k lynch had stalled (which it has). Admittedly krellin was a pretty odd person to change to, but given I had just rebuked people for only considering the top wagons, it was possible he was pandering to me to stop me rolling onto him.

##vote moscow

This is fine too.

And in case it's not clear, no, I'm not going to vote for Xorxes.

If we can get a last minute wagon going on brainbomb I'd be okay with that. His recent play has been scummy as hell.

@captain: clarify: YOU'RE saying that if xorx and moscow were scum, xorx would change votes at the end to try to protect each other? or did someone else say that?

##VOTE MOSCOW

I still think y2k is scum, but of the 2 up I think MF has been pushing the newbie card even harder than I did last game, and that's saying something. I don't like the tone of his posts, it seems like forced ignorance.

Chaqa has skillfully dodged several questions directed towards him about his many different votes.

And in my defense, which I feel like I'm repeating and no one is listening, I asked one question. In hindsight, it was a mistake. Now I've got 5 voters on me? Was it that big of a mistake? Easy pickings for Mafia? Little reasoning has been provided by ANYONE, yet here we are.

Teacon - I'm saying that there was no reason for a scum Xorxes to switch from a safe lynch *unless* he was trying to use it to pull off my vote from a mafia comrade (Moscow). I think either they are scum together or Xorxes is not scum.

##call gm: votecount?

i think xorxes is being protected right now with the moscowfleet votes.

Mafia XVIII Day 1
Official Vote Count 11.0:

y2kjbk (2): Yoyoyozo, krellin
captainmeme (4): WardenDresden, Jamiet99uk, Vecna, brainbomb
Chaqa (3): trip, OB_GYN_Kenobi, MoscowFleet
xorxes (3): y2kjbk, goldfinger0303, Hellenic Riot
teacon7 (1): VashtaNeurotic
MoscowFleet (6): ghug, Maniac, captainmeme, ND, Chaqa, DemonRHK
OB_GYN_Kenobi (1): reedeer1
krellin (1): xorxes

Unvoted (1): teacon7

Currently MOSCOWFLEET is set to be lynched!

You have 4 minutes remaining until the end of Election Day 1!

It's not like your argument is all that long.

"I don't think WD is scum again. His pressure on me seems more townie than anything, because he was in the last game they tried to policy lynch me so knows that any kind of lurker-lynch effort on me is not an easy one because I will start upping my game as town, and if he were mafia then that's not something he would want to do." - Subjective. I pointed out that I disagree his pressure on you is townie because he isn't pressuring you; he's outright and utterly tunnelling you. Which means he can (and has) been lazy everywhere else - he doesn't need to get you lynched, he just needs to tunnel you to get away with doing fuck all else.

"In general, I'd agree with the assertion that going for lurkers immediately, especially pushing on a specific one early, is scummy because it's an easy mislynch, but Warden knows I am not an easy player to get lynched for something like that." - I don't find lurker-lynch pushing especially scummy because it's so widespread. I do find that doing it without considering anybody else at all to be scummy. I said this. Sure, you're harder than a total noob to lynch. Big whoop - it makes no difference whatsoever to my read of Warden.