@Bo: ok, I'm on my phone atm but in the next hour I'll post a reiterated case for a Day 1 lynch of OB

The vote is horrifically split right now

Twelve of nineteen players have votes on them.

wjessop's play is reminisant of mafia wj when he mocks offence, at ghug swearing, at me for questioning his day of work and now at ob - fake is fake - i've vote him off if yoyo wagon stalls (edit also krellin stuff in m10)

Aight, so the deal with bo is pretty much entirely a tonal thing. When bo is town, it's clear in everything he's saying, even though he's still a dumbass. I'm not sure that I can put my finger on exactly what it is, but town bo is always very obvtown. Scum bo is similarly an ass and an idiot, but it isn't immediately obvious that he's town, and he does little things (like the "Ohai ghug" post after I accused him) that have an awkward calculatedness to them we only see from scum bo. It's frustrating not having more than that, as bo's play is always so awful that his actions are going to appear similar on the surface regardless of his role at least until we get some flips, but it's actually a read I'm more confident in than I usually am on day one. I know that's enough to get him lynched, and I don't really have the time to write up a bona fide case before EoD, so I was hoping to see if anyone else had noticed anything similar and was willing to push with me.

Does anyone have any thoughts on my Damian case from my reads list?

What page ND I'm on mobile

Maniac, what are your thoughts on Yoyo previously being anti-lurker in MX?

Page 19.

@ND: I'm with you on the damian case -- but I think it deserves the benefit of the doubt. I don't think damian is now the Day 1 priority.

I think you should switch to OB if you agree; the Damian vote isn't going anywhere and a no lunch would be a disaster with a scumteam this strong.

M13 Day 1 Vote Count 3 fixed
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Balki Bartokomous (4): guak, DemonOverlord, y2kjbk, bo_sox48
Yoyoyozo (3): captainmeme, Maniac, ghug
OB_Gyn_Kenobi (3): Deathllama9, wjessop, Toemato
DemonOverlord (2): Balki Bartokomous, damian
captainmeme (1): SaladinSmith
damian (1): ND
Espi (1): uclabb
y2kjbk (1): OB_Gyn_Kenobi
Deathllama9 (1): Yoyoyozo
SaladinSmith (1): Hellenic Riot

Unvoted (0):

No vote (1): Espi

Currently NO ONE Is set to be lynched.

3 hours 37 minutes remain.

The (1) who has not yet voted must vote before end of phase or be mod killed or replaced.

I don't understand how people can't think wjessop is mafia this is exactly what he was like last game. I'm super frustrated but I value my grades over webdip rn #srynotsry

Wj - your play here is very bad for town. If you are town, why do you go to great lengths to construct cases that require such large leaps of logic? You paint these complex pictures of scummy motivation behind players' statements and you act as if it's clear as crystal what's going on. In reality, you have no idea what you're talking about. Please explain to me how you come to the conclusion that I'm desperate to attack you when I've explicitly stated that I have read you as town.

@Maniac: calling someone obnoxious is rude, in my book. I don't think you'd be casting around such insults over a game in real life.

Bo does feel off to me, but his defense is non-sucky enough so that I don't think he's a d1 priority.

Consolidate, guys!

@damain
People i would consider to are Balki, y2k (probably not happening), and OB.

The scummiest thing I think Balki has done is propose that VT claim PRs, but I'm having a hard time understanding why scum would say something like that.

OB has done remarkably little, compared to his previous games and to everyone in the thread. Then he comes on and defends himself and not much else so far. I expect more. ##VOTE OB

Off to reread OB and see if he's done anything town-y

@DO
If you think wjessop is scum, why don't you post an official case on him? why aren't you at least voting for him?

@WJ: I will re-read OB. In the meantime explain: "@ND: I'm with you on the damian case -- but I think it deserves the benefit of the doubt."

@DO: "exactly what he was like"

...do other Playets normally change their play quite obviously between town and scum? I'm not sure what you want from me.

"I just had balki on my mind because I hate PR talk soooooo much."

<never follows up OR suspects me despite saying "BB and DL9, looking at you">

@OB - explain pls

God, he speaks for himself I don't even need to.

From memory I would have to disagree that Damian has shied away from criticism and accusations. Quite the contrary, I found he stepped up to explain himself fairly well when I reread him. Balki and DO are the ones that shied away, but I think DO had a legitimate come-back into the game. OB I'm torn on right now, he was silent then came in with that abysmal reads list, but I'm actually buying his explanations now for why he thinks what he does. I seriously prefer a Balki lunch to an OB lynch right now.

@wjessop yes or we'd never catch scum would we?

Right. Ok.

OB seems nicer than the game he called me a drunk four-year-old

@DO: that's seems like a dumb thing for you to agree to -- because then it would be obvious every time.

Like, maybe not too obviously but you seem dead on the same.

There's an overlying theme with OB's defense, which is that you don't really need solid evidence because it's d1. I still feel like OB is scum