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MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
I missed a turn because of the server error.
Hi, This morning I could not log in.
"Apologies for the downtime, the server ran out of disk space. Our new disk will be configured this weekend. All games have been given extra time to compensate. Thanks for your patience."

As the result, one of my game missed a turn. Everyone else moved excepted me. What do I do now?
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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WebDip vs VDip
Not sure if this has already been posted here, but Gen Lee suggested a tournament between the best players here and the best players on VDip, including Classic games and variant games to give both factions some home ground to fight on.
Any of you up for it? We've already got a small team together and hopefully some of the other top VDip players will volunteer soon.
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twinsnation (503 D(B))
14 Apr 13 UTC
vite 2 needs one player
game starts in 5 minutes one more required
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
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Corée du Nord (That means North Korea)
A statement I heard today:

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blankflag (0 DX)
14 Apr 13 UTC
The Problem of Money
I just jumped from being in the 15th percentile of wealth to 5th because of some market shorting - that was because of luck mostly.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
14 Apr 13 UTC
MODS - Game stuck
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=111195

Loading order...
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
The Future of Tournaments webDip
As webDip grows, we need to relook at some of our old policies. The Mods have decided that it's time we rethink how Tournaments are done. I'm currently sitting in while most of the Mods are away, so I figured I'd get the community's input now, for them to consider when they get back.
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dannysparkes (397 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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V Web diplomacy ego's
When the site went down last night i signed up to the v web diplomacy site and checked the forum and one thread suggests that the players in the top forty are better than the top 400 here. What a bunch of tosh they are really up on themselves :(
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Halt (270 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
The Problem of Points
I just jumped from 15% to 5% because of a gunboat game - that was won because of luck mostly.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
13 Apr 13 UTC
Just came up with an opening for Italy I've never heard anyone about...
It probably has been discussed/done before but I don't think I ever heard/saw it...
Ven-Tyr, Rome-Nap, Nap-Ion.

It's not really offensive at all to Austria and it leaves open a load of possibilities... What do you think?
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
Circle Triangle Square
Aïkido concepts in the strategies of Diplomacy play.
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JoSo (291 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Has anyone seen a game glitch like this;
Newly built fleet in Moscow in World version of game, can not move to Ukraine or Arminia, can not support to hold anything, can support to move only units going to Black Sea. It's as if Black Sea is the only recognized adjacent area. by can not I mean drop down menus of locations only have Black Sea or are blank. Nothing currently in the Black Sea.
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Tagger (129 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
How do i set up a tournament?
How do i set up a tournament?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Thatcher's Funeral
Since the "Maggie Thatcher Dead at 87" thread has turned into a debate about the IRA specifically, I wanted to voice my opinion about a seperate issue relating to Mrs. Thatcher's death.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Maggie Thatcher Dead at 87
http://news.sky.com/story/1075292/margaret-thatcher-dies-after-stroke
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mendax (321 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Let's not try to glorify her here. After all, she:
called Mandela a terrorist and supported apartheid
helped give aid to Pol Pot
left millions unemployed
supported Pinochet and thanked him for “bringing democracy to Chile”
amongst other things - those are simply her most egregious abuses of decency.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
There's a difference between respecting someone and being respectful of them.
While I don't hold many of her policies in high regard, the lady is dead, and I respectfully wish the best to those who will miss her.
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
@Invictus: I said I considered it, which I did. I decided against it, due to the fact we have never had a conservative martyr. Didn't really want to start a trend. Martyrs are always bad news.Still "watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants" (Jefferson) is a very good quotation. Thanks. Might use it sometime when addressing a rabble-rousing mob intent on the destruction of the power of inherited wealth and the inequity of the present social economic imbalance. Nice line, Mr J.

Mute me as you wish, Invictus. Closing your ears is usually a sign of stupidity and/or weakness, in my humble estimation.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@Timur,
Be careful what you admit to. This is the 21st century, when considering things will be prosecuted to the full extent of the Patriot Act.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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That's what it has in common with considering to assassinate a democratically elected head of government.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
That was re:Timur "Mute me...humble estimation"
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
@hecks: "I respectfully wish the best to those who will miss her."

No disrespect for the dead, but, percentage-wise, how many of those do you think are going to find this post on Webdip?

Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Man, none o' yous seem to have much of a sense of humour.
The bitch is dead: long live the witch.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
I can wish whatever I want for them. The fact that they're not going to see this in no way impacts my wishes.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
"The linked paper would disagree with your hypothesis that salaries for the poor grew during the 1980s.
http://www.econ.umn.edu/~fperri/papers/uk2.pdf"
Thanks for the link, this is what I was hoping for, actual statistics rather then bogus claims. I glanced over the paper, and assuming that the data they used are reliable, I would still argue in favour of thatcher.

For starters figure 2.4 uses household income, rather then individual income. The problem with this is that household size has steadily decreased over the last 50 years, due to fewer marriages, more divorces and an overall decline in fertility. This means that your looking at the income of a smaller group, and are stunned to see the result be a lower income.

Its typical politics mind you. Politicians who want to attack opponents policies will blame them for the decreasing or stagnating household incomes, while politicians who want to talk about how great their policies have been will talk about the increase individual incomes. Its how you spin it.

I personally prefer individual income because, for reasons stated above, it is a more reliable source that is less volatile to social changes.

The second point I want to make is that it points out that 10% of families got poorer during the 80s, that means that 90% of families got richer. While this doesn't mean I endorse stealing from the poor to give to the rich, if a policy benefits 90% of those that are effected, and the amount they each benefit is twice as great (saying double because incomes did double) as the amount the 10% loose, then it was probably a successful policy.

@Invictus: Synapse kind of has a point, Hitler was democratically elected and maintained popular support for most of the war. Also he didn't oppress everyone, just the jews, blacks, gypsies, gays, handicapped, muslims and communists.
So by your own logic, unless your one of the aforementioned groups, you would have no right to assassinate Hitler.

"Let's not try to glorify her here. After all, she:"
I agree, she was human, like everyone else. But she was still a good human and great leader.

"Called Mandela a terrorist and supported apartheid"
While Mandela was certainly better then the apartheid, to be fair, had Mandela been anything like Mugabe, which most Europeans thought would be the case, then I would have endorsed the apartheid as well.

In this case the devil you know is better then the devil you don't. This is why I also endorsed Mubarak, Assad etc. during the Arab Spring. Mubarak is way better then Morsi, and the next Syrian leader could be another islamic extremist that turns out to be worse then Assad. I don't want to take the risk.

"helped give aid to Pol Pot"
Not sure the circumstances of this, but it was probably inexcusable. Again she was human, I don't deny that she made mistakes.

"left millions unemployed"
Let the free market correct itself. Unemployment was lower when she left office then when she started.

"supported Pinochet and thanked him for “bringing democracy to Chile”"
Well he did bring democracy to Chile. After 16 years of a military dictatorship, he somehow held the belief that he was popular enough to win an election, so held a free election and was stunned when he lost.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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@Fasces
"Thanks for the link, this is what I was hoping for, actual statistics rather then bogus claims."

Any time. I try to always find the stats. Belief without evidence is religion, which has its place, but not in my political life.
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Her voice, posh, arrogant, patronising tone, ancient granny platitudes, made my teeth grate. Almost led to TV destruction quite a number of times.
Patronising is the keyword here.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@Fasces,
Your point about it being household income rather than per capita is a fair one. I'd bet that you'd see a similar trend in per capita income. But again, that's just a hypothesis, not a belief.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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You can destroy your TV by grating your teeth?
Holy hell Timur.
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Thank the laud, laudie, laudie.
We ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Maggie must be happy she lived so long with these mad skills
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Ignoring the very poor grammar in the first half of that statement, (which I guess is excusable because I have had really poorly written statements in the past) hating on someone because of the way they speak is sort of pathetic.

Listening to her speak, I agree that she wasn't the easiest on the ears, but for me, when it comes to politics the implication of the message is far more important then how charismatic the person saying it is.

I don't make fun of Obama's big ears when I'm talking about his bad policies, or when I'm arguing against them I don't constantly say, "Now, Let me be clear".

Politics should be about policy, and in Thatchers case, I supported most of her policies and most of them did have successful results, as mentioned before.
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
@redhouse: You don't want to know what a well-directed fart can do.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Lol "Now, let me be clear", someone should compile that in a youtube video (knocking wood, probably been done already)
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
"@Fasces,
Your point about it being household income rather than per capita is a fair one. I'd bet that you'd see a similar trend in per capita income. But again, that's just a hypothesis, not a belief."
I'd disagree, median household income has stagnated or declined in every single developed country over the last 50 years, while individual income has risen by at least 20% in every country.

While I do readily admit that her policies benefited the middle and upper classes more then it benefited the lower class, I would be surprised to see individual incomes decrease as much as household incomes did, assuming they actually decreased.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
I live in a part of the UK which is still struggling to recover from the damage Thatcher's policies did. She caused immense hardship and suffering in many parts of this country and had some truly odious views. I do not mourn her passing.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
News Update: Hell has just been privatised.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
"Lol "Now, let me be clear", someone should compile that in a youtube video (knocking wood, probably been done already)"
Suprisingly, one hasn't really been made. This is the closest I could find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSbl_uvtNSE
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
"the implication of the message is far more important then how charismatic the person saying it is."
The trouble here is that the implication of the message was always in synch with the patronising tones.
Jasbrum (100 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@ fasces349 "an overall decline in fertility" what? I missed that, and my CSA operative will attest to that :)
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Hey, Jamiet99uk. Glad to have a (seemingly) kindred spirit here. Been getting beleaguered by true blue toerags.
Jasbrum (100 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@ jamie99uk News Update: Hell has just been privatised.
It's been a long time coming, 87 years to be precise
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@ Timur:

No seemingly about it, mate. I'm with you. She was a horrible bitch who didn't give a shit about ordinary people.
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Since Hell was privatised today by the mighty M, the Big Red Man with the horns is losing his groundswell. He's losing souls. They all want to go her way and buy some real estate on the banks of the Styx. Condos with a view of the incoming. Reasonable rates right now. Bound to appreciate. (Reuters)
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Hell recently started capitalising on its tourist revenue.
http://www.economist.com/news/christmas/21568591-hell-steadily-losing-adherents-infernal-tourist-board-chief-field-researchers-dante

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SYnapse (0 DX)
11 Apr 13 UTC
Art variant
You may only speak to other players through a piece of art of your choosing posted to the forum
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blankflag (0 DX)
13 Apr 13 UTC
adam gadahn, seriously?
as low as my credibility for the cia and corporate media are, how was adam gadahn on msnbc? american must be the joke of intelligent people everywhere at this point.
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Is this the new web dip record?
Is this the fastest solo on web dip ever?
gameID=114948 just finished,very interesting game,congrats to the winner!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
11 Apr 13 UTC
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Creating an EOG periodical
I got the thought that it may be nice to create a collection of some of the sites best EOGs. I figure that people could point me in the direction of some of their favourites. I could give them a quick edit (to conform their styles at least) and then release them periodically as a collection. Ultimately, it would be cool to have them stored on a navigatable website. This is just a thought though so all action, of course, is pension my laziness.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
11 Apr 13 UTC
Does anybody here really understand 'Quantum Theory'?
Do you?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
Mall shooting announce before hand on 4chan
Well, this is rather horrific...

http://gawker.com/5994549/the-virginia-mall-shooting-was-announced-in-advance-on-4chan
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Bob Genghiskhan (1228 D)
10 Apr 13 UTC
Want Turkish fleets in the Tyrrhenian Sea?
An object lesson in why the Crusher is a poor gunboat opening for Italy.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114834
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Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Apr 13 UTC
The non-variant series...
I am thinking of starting a new series (passworded) wherein the buy-in is irrelavent because the points at the end of the game go back to the original polayers and the winner/drawees get nothing extra. This would eliminate the PPSC vs. WTA arguments and their issues as it wouldn't matter (although it would still affect GR, nothing I can do about that).

Anyone up for trying this out?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
FACE TO FACE DIPLOMACY TOURNAMENT SIGNUP
Come on guys!
https://sites.google.com/site/boroughsdiplomacy/
Register at [email protected]
May 18-19
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datapolitical (100 D)
11 Apr 13 UTC
My favorite war is...
I would like to say WW2 because its the war I've read the most about. But tbh it's the Six Day War. A small country dominating a much larger enemy through superior tactics. How can a diplomacy player not love that!
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SYnapse (0 DX)
10 Apr 13 UTC
Huxley or Darwin?
Frans de Waal describes two conflicting ideas of evolutionary ethics, Darwin’s “evolution of ethics” and Huxley’s “veneer theory.”
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erist (228 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Press tactics
What tactics do you use in your press to sow dissent, confirm rumors, get other people to move the way you want them too, etc?
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datapolitical (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Google plus hangout game?
So who's interested in a public press live game on google plus? (obviously it'd be gunboat on the site, because all communication would be done over video chat). We could broadcast the game so observers could see the conversation in real time.

I'm thinking 10 minutes per turn, Sunday afternoon at around 2PM PST.
How does that sound?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
12 Apr 13 UTC
MASTERS TOURNAMENT
Weirsy and Couples, the two biggest beauties on tour.
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FlemGem (1297 D)
31 Mar 13 UTC
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Grant or Lee
Who was the better general? Discuss.....
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