@ Lando: I had the sign-up set to start Sept 1st, so I'm going to close them on the 7th. I'd be pleasantly surprised if everyone comes back. We have 7 already though, so it looks like a large majority may be defending their seats.

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley

Entrants:
1. acmac10
2. thatwasawkward
3. Riphen
4. AlexNesta
5. pjmansfield99
6. Sargmacher
7. Yonni
8. TAYLORNOTTYLER
9. Undercover

Id like in. Not sure i understand the entry process though...what do i have to do?

Would there be seats reserved to reward performance in the current tournament?

I'm in.

Then add yourself to the list, JP.

This tournament won't be starting for about a month, and will take multiple months to complete. Keep that in mind when signing up.

Right now, entrants will be chosen by Ghost's Peak Rankings:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AseR-H0M2Ru3dHl0M3VPMUIxTGxic1N6X2RCeFVxb2c&output=html

Info on the tourney can be found here:

http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/gunboat-tournament

^ That's not all set in stone. I may tinker with some things before the end of the August.

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396

*** To join, copy and paste this post, then add your name and rank in the appropriate place ***

O.o

Ghost rating is hardly a fair way to judge entrants :P

I'm sure Sargmacher feels otherwise, but frankly that is based more on normal games yeah? I would argue that my ghost rating per gunboat games would be higher than theirs.

You are right in that GR isn't a good reflection of gunboat games, but it is a system designed in that it promotes desirable play, which is all what you can ask for in a tournament.

Not when the system of play is a different system than what you're playing :P

Just because it's the same board doesn't mean the game can be represented by the same rankings, ie, chess and checkers.

I'm just butt hurt about possibly not being allowed to participate :P

@ tnt: I agree that GRs don't accurately reflect gunboat ability, but there's no other ranking system, besides the total points one used here, to go by. If someone has a better way to rank players that is not too complicated, I'm alll ears.

Ghost Ranking explicitly devalues gunboat games relative to regular games. I love the system but it's a terrible way to establish priority for entry to a gunboat tournament.

@ PE: It's not terrible or unfair to reward players with high GR with a tournament where they get to play against others with the similar credentials. It's also not unfair for me to choose how I want to go about selecting entrants. Both of those things being said, it is unfair to base gunboat ability on GRs, but like I said above, let me know if you have a better way.

Well, I never used the word "unfair." I said it was terrible because it weighs gunboat games with less value than standard games. If Player A and Player B have the exact same record, except all of A's games are in full press and B's are in gunboat, A has the higher GR without playing a single game.

Though I suppose it could also be said that it weighs gunboat losses less... And ultimately, I admit I have no alternative. I just hope that we don't boil it down to a comparison of a single number here, much though I again love that number and the system that produces it. (It's certainly served me well. ;D)

One could argue that the order in which people registered shows a certain level of enthusiasm and eagerness which may benefit the tournament.

That being said, I have obvious biases.

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry
9. gramilaj

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396

Also, I'm tossing my hat in the ring. Apologies if this disrupts anything.

Then add your name and rank, Mr. President.

The current All-Time Rankings are just to get an idea of where people are. The rankings from Sept will be used to pick and rank players. <--- this will be noted on the tourney page shortly.

I know some people are not going to make the cut, and be upset about it, but there's no system besides including everyone to keep that from happening.

Please don't take this the wrong way, my intent is not to be callus, but anyone who doesn't get in can start up another tourney. If someone wants do another one with the next 28 players, I'd be all for it. With two or three tiered tourneys, this could run like the leagues, and players could move up or down depending on where they finished the previous year. Then, next year we wouldn't have to worry about using a system that doesn't fit to pick players.

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry
9. gramilaj

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
President Eden - 9
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396

Alright, thanks trip. Pending the turnout, maybe I'll try set up a relegation league.

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry
9. gramilaj

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
President Eden - 9
rdrivera2005 - 21
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry
9. gramilaj

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
President Eden - 9
rdrivera2005 - 21
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
TrustMe - 469
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry
9. gramilaj

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
President Eden - 9
rdrivera2005 - 21
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
TrustMe - 469
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
rkane - 1965
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396

What even is Ghost rating

Because im interestd I just want to know what it is

" What is Ghost-Rating?

Ghost-Rating is an unofficial rating system developed by TheGhostmaker as an alternative to points. It intends to provide a more accurate measure of the ability of players, and also to give a better idea of how well people are doing compared to previously. The original version was developed in 2008, and based on the Elo used in chess, however the algorithm has been improved several times since then."


http://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist

PeakRatings? Why....now I have even less chance..wtf!!

Automatic Qualifiers:
1. trip
2.Gobba
3. Frank
4. Lando
5. Troodonte
6. The Czech
7. TBroadley
8. JesusPetry
9. gramilaj

Entrants - Peak Ranking:
President Eden - 9
rdrivera2005 - 21
Sargmacher - 27
thatwasawkward - 302
TrustMe - 469
Cockney - 592
Riphen - 730
AlexNesta - 1154
acmac10 - 1877
rkane - 1965
Yonni - 2071
Trooth - 2282
undercover - 3554
taylornottyler - 3895
pjmansfield99 - 24396
Maniac - unknown