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krellin (80 DX)
21 Aug 12 UTC
George W Bush on Race Reltions
GWB made Coding Rice one of the MOST powerful BLACK WOmen in the world. NOW she breaks the Mae barrier at Augusta.

THANK YOU George W Bus fo appointing 'Condi?...for FIRST elevating er to power!!!
Onjd
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President Eden (2750 D)
21 Aug 12 UTC
How I feel about politics all the time
http://reason.com/archives/2012/08/20/the-wrong-side-absolutely-must-not-win
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
14 Aug 12 UTC
For profit prisons?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/13/681261/mississippi-schools-sending-kids-to-prison-for-misbehaving-in-the-classroom/?mobile=nc

When you put private companies in charge of prisons they make a profit, can you do the same with education and pay for it with public money? i mean prison is free for the user right? Why not run schools on this basis too??
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
21 Aug 12 UTC
Vote in the Presidential Poll!
Attention! Everyone is invited to vote in the Sbyvl Presidential Poll. Four parties, Democratic, Republican, Libertarian, and Green are up on the poll. Make sure to vote by September 30, when the site will endorse the poll's winner.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
20 Aug 12 UTC
business hours only
I just want to know, who the hell does this: www.freakonomics.com/2012/08/20/this-website-only-open-during-business-hours/
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slyster (3934 D)
12 Aug 12 UTC
GameID=696969 EoG
Really enjoyable game guys. Will post more later.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
20 Aug 12 UTC
gunboat
500 D gameID=97765 48 hours wta
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The_Pessimist (112 D)
18 Aug 12 UTC
Live games , lots of live games!
I love live games and was wondering if there are any regular live game players who might want to take part in a series of regular live games together, just simple full press non-anon games . We could turn it into a tournament of some kind but mostly i just wanna play a whole bunch of live games soon
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
20 Aug 12 UTC
Weekly Press EOG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=88327
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WarLegend (1747 D)
17 Aug 12 UTC
New Full Press Game!
I've been looking for a game in which people actually write and its not a hassle to have the most basic communication with your neighbor, and.. well I havn't had much luck.

So hopefully starting a game on the forums will help me find a game like that!
So if you wanna join, just sign up. What is everyone's preferred length/bet amount
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
20 Aug 12 UTC
Boys of Summer
Since the old thread is locked/buried
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
19 Aug 12 UTC
Sbyvl.webs.com now has a purpose
My website, Sbyvl.webs.com, now has a purpose. It is now a non-partisan election blog, with projections for each state.Just go to the main page and click "2012 coverage".
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 Aug 12 UTC
Putn33 on Churchill: "Genocidal Maniac If There Ever Was One"...Fact or Fiction?
Putin, you're free to comment, freer to drop one of your clever cries of "jackass" or "doofus" below for my daring to disagree.
I don't think Churchill was "a Genocidal Maniac If There Ever Was One."
But maybe I'm wrong...am I? Have I missed a key memoir where Winston vows to expunge the Catholics or Jews or threatened to murder someone for saying the bar was empty or something? Or...is Putin being Putin?
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achillies27 (100 D)
19 Aug 12 UTC
WTA-GB-170
Whew! Glad I got that draw!
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
19 Aug 12 UTC
EoG: gun 101 fun
gameID=97706 and it was going so well in 1903...
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
29 Apr 12 UTC
Daily Bible Reading
Wherein the ancient story of God and man, heaven and hell, life and death, love and hate, sacrifice and murder, the fall and the rescue, and angels and demons, continues.

(This thread will replace the previous Daily Bible Reading threads, so let's continue the conversation in this one instead of the previous ones.)
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Today's Bible reading is Luke Chapter 4
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=4&v=1&t=NLT#1
in which we see the devil, disbelief, a demon, a miracle, and more demons.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Full text from http://www.blueletterbible.org/tools/printerFriendly.cfm?b=Luk&c=4&t=NLTP&x=1&y=9

The Temptation of Jesus
1 Then Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan River. He was led by the Spirit in the wilderness, [fn1] 2 where he was tempted by the devil for forty days. Jesus ate nothing all that time and became very hungry.
3 Then the devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become a loaf of bread.”
4 But Jesus told him, “No! The Scriptures say, ‘People do not live by bread alone.’ [fn2] ”
5 Then the devil took him up and revealed to him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 “I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them,” the devil said, “because they are mine to give to anyone I please. 7 I will give it all to you if you will worship me.”
8 Jesus replied, “The Scriptures say,
‘You must worship the LORD your God
and serve only him.’ [fn3] ”
9 Then the devil took him to Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple, and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! 10 For the Scriptures say,
‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you.
11 And they will hold you up with their hands
so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’ [fn4] ”
12 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the LORD your God.’ [fn5] ”
13 When the devil had finished tempting Jesus, he left him until the next opportunity came.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
14 Then Jesus returned to Galilee, filled with the Holy Spirit’s power. Reports about him spread quickly through the whole region. 15 He taught regularly in their synagogues and was praised by everyone.
16 When he came to the village of Nazareth, his boyhood home, he went as usual to the synagogue on the Sabbath and stood up to read the Scriptures. 17 The scroll of Isaiah the prophet was handed to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where this was written:
18 “The Spirit of the LORD is upon me,
for he has anointed me to bring Good News to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim that captives will be released,
that the blind will see,
that the oppressed will be set free,
19 and that the time of the LORD’s favor has come. [fn6] ”
20 He rolled up the scroll, handed it back to the attendant, and sat down. All eyes in the synagogue looked at him intently. 21 Then he began to speak to them. “The Scripture you’ve just heard has been fulfilled this very day!”
22 Everyone spoke well of him and was amazed by the gracious words that came from his lips. “How can this be?” they asked. “Isn’t this Joseph’s son?”
23 Then he said, “You will undoubtedly quote me this proverb: ‘Physician, heal yourself’—meaning, ‘Do miracles here in your hometown like those you did in Capernaum.’ 24 But I tell you the truth, no prophet is accepted in his own hometown.
25 “Certainly there were many needy widows in Israel in Elijah’s time, when the heavens were closed for three and a half years, and a severe famine devastated the land. 26 Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them. He was sent instead to a foreigner—a widow of Zarephath in the land of Sidon. 27 And there were many lepers in Israel in the time of the prophet Elisha, but the only one healed was Naaman, a Syrian.”
28 When they heard this, the people in the synagogue were furious. 29 Jumping up, they mobbed him and forced him to the edge of the hill on which the town was built. They intended to push him over the cliff, 30 but he passed right through the crowd and went on his way.
Jesus Casts Out a Demon
31 Then Jesus went to Capernaum, a town in Galilee, and taught there in the synagogue every Sabbath day. 32 There, too, the people were amazed at his teaching, for he spoke with authority.
33 Once when he was in the synagogue, a man possessed by a demon—an evil [fn7] spirit—began shouting at Jesus, 34 “Go away! Why are you interfering with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!”
35 Jesus cut him short. “Be quiet! Come out of the man,” he ordered. At that, the demon threw the man to the floor as the crowd watched; then it came out of him without hurting him further.
36 Amazed, the people exclaimed, “What authority and power this man’s words possess! Even evil spirits obey him, and they flee at his command!” 37 The news about Jesus spread through every village in the entire region.
Jesus Heals Many People
38 After leaving the synagogue that day, Jesus went to Simon’s home, where he found Simon’s mother-in-law very sick with a high fever. “Please heal her,” everyone begged. 39 Standing at her bedside, he rebuked the fever, and it left her. And she got up at once and prepared a meal for them.
40 As the sun went down that evening, people throughout the village brought sick family members to Jesus. No matter what their diseases were, the touch of his hand healed every one. 41 Many were possessed by demons; and the demons came out at his command, shouting, “You are the Son of God!” But because they knew he was the Messiah, he rebuked them and refused to let them speak.
Jesus Continues to Preach
42 Early the next morning Jesus went out to an isolated place. The crowds searched everywhere for him, and when they finally found him, they begged him not to leave them. 43 But he replied, “I must preach the Good News of the Kingdom of God in other towns, too, because that is why I was sent.” 44 So he continued to travel around, preaching in synagogues throughout Judea. [fn8]


Footnotes:
4:1

Some manuscripts read into the wilderness.
4:4

Deut 8:3.
4:8

Deut 6:13.
4:10-11

Ps 91:11-12.
4:12

Deut 6:16.
4:18-19

Or and to proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD. Isa 61:1-2 (Greek version); 58:6.
4:33

Greek unclean; also in 4:36.
4:44

Some manuscripts read Galilee.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
1 Samuel 15:3

'Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.'

God supports genocide. full text available on the interwebbs.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
@ Ora, yeah, God can wipe out a nation if he wants, and has done so.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
It's pretty hard to understand.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
16 May 12 UTC
^Enlighten us Mujus. I don't claim to be a morally superior being than your God, but I don't see myself wiping out a nation.

Unless I play England in Diplomacy and feel like a good convoy show.
Mario4Ever (100 D)
16 May 12 UTC
Mujus, I think that pales in comparison to flooding the earth.

5 Then the devil took him up and revealed to him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 “I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them,” the devil said, “because they are mine to give to anyone I please.
7 I will give it all to you if you will worship me.”
8 Jesus replied, “The Scriptures say,
‘You must worship the LORD your God
and serve only him.’"

Anyway, concerning the above, I don't understand why Jesus refuses Satan's offer. I understand that canonically, Jesus, as the so-called "son of God" and, according to some, the human incarnation of God, is incapable of sin, but if, canonically, Jesus is to have dominion over all of the kingdoms of the world and smite Satan and his forces anyway, what does he have to lose? What sort of punishment could he possibly incur upon himself (or would you consider it a punishment incurred upon humanity, since the only thing I can think of is that Jesus's status as man's savior is possibly rescinded if the offer is accepted, which would mean, according to the Christian worldview, that man is in effect screwed)?
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Redhouse, I guess before you can understand that, you'd have to know something about God's character, and to know that, you'd have to search/seek for that knowledge and wisdom. I have read that at that time, the Amalakites were sacrificing babies to Dagon, an iron statue that they would stand in the fire with outstretched arms on which they would lay their sacrifices.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
So I figure that God wanted to wipe out that practice and that nation as a signal to others not to do the same kind of thing.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Dominion over the earth might destory free will to be enforced, which clearly isn't part of God's plan. ie to grant free will and then punish us for using it - i don't know, are we taking a literal or symbolic reading of genesis? Or does it not matter?
redhouse1938 (429 D)
16 May 12 UTC
@Mujus
Hmm... Why didn't God just turn some water into wine or walk on water to show that he was a lot more powerful than the statue and didn't ask for infants to be sacrificed in his honor (or at least, hadn't asked that for a long time).
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Orathaic,obviously you are not seeking any truth other than what you already believe, since as you state, you already know God's plan: "God's plan. ie to grant free will and then punish us for using it." So why the continued dialogue?
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Redhouse, even when Jesus came and was doing miracle after miracle, many people refused to believe, some believed the miracles but rejected who Jesus said he was, and others set out to destroy him. Also, if there's one thing I have learned from teaching, it's that some people don't learn until they have a failure experience.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
@Mujus, perhaps i believe that it is only through dialogue that we can come to a better understanding of our different positions. I'm not claiming that this is definitely God's plan, but that is my understanding of Genesis. At least a fairly simplified version of it.

And this is the thread you created for discussing 'reading(s)' of the bible, right? If that is what i read into the meaning of Genesis, then perhaps that says a lot more about me than anything else. How and Ever, I believe you invited this conversation.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Orathaic, I'm glad to hear you're not claiming that is definitely God's plan and that dialogue is still possible. :-)
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 May 12 UTC
Hey, if i definitely knew Gods plan i think i'd be out on the streets selling it, not here talking about what i don't know... Unless of course i knew the plan and it required me to be here... Which i find highly suspect ;)
Mujus (1495 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
So... you'd be... telling others about it. :-)
@ orathaic

I believe that you are right we did invite this conversation, however, I'm curious. You seem to be ignoring the ongoing discussions in favor of quotes and stories that have one single theme. For instance you brought up Job, and I appreciate your apology, I really didn't attribute that attitude to you as much as the creator of that cartoon and I was using it as a springboard into a critique of the "better" interpretation that he was espousing of the story. I tend to like Job and I think we could shed a lot of light on the story if we contained a discussion to that one book that you suggested. Mujus tends to like the New Testament, but I don't mind the Old Testament stories that you're bringing up.

How about we discuss Job and save the Amalekites for the next discussion after that one? TO the best of my ability, I won't shy away or hedge my bets, but I'm a bit concerned as we're going now (so, far two stories Job [unfinished] and the introduction of Saul and the Amalekites) that I'm to be caught up in an endless defense of every verse that you might find suspect without being given much of an opportunity to really analyze and engage you in conversation about any of them. Basically if we're going to discuss Job, let's have the discussion and compare interpretaions side by side and see what we come up with. Are you game?
@ Mujus & Redhouse

The Temptaion of Jesus is a great story. I think it's a good observation redhouse that the consequences for Jesus gaining the kingdoms of the world in exchange for worshipping Satan may not be severe for Jesus (he's the Son of God) but they could be disastrous for humanity. I can't say that I ever thought of it that way. Luckily we don't have to find that out.

The thing that strikes me in the story is that Satan uses Scripture to back up his temptation. Christ, immediately responds with another Scripture to show the error in Satan's reasoning. So it is implied in the story that it's possible to base a spurious argument on Scripture and that the best way to counter that tactic is to study the Scripture. There is also the theme of Jesus rejecting earthly power when it is offered.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
Today's Bible reading is Luke Chapter 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=5&v=1&t=NLT#1
which includes miracles, teaching, forgiveness of sin, opposition, and a quiet time to pray.
One of my favorite parts is this one:
17 One day while Jesus was teaching, some Pharisees and teachers of religious law were sitting nearby. (It seemed that these men showed up from every village in all Galilee and Judea, as well as from Jerusalem.) And the Lord’s healing power was strongly with Jesus.
18 Some men came carrying a paralyzed man on a sleeping mat. They tried to take him inside to Jesus, 19 but they couldn’t reach him because of the crowd. So they went up to the roof and took off some tiles. Then they lowered the sick man on his mat down into the crowd, right in front of Jesus. 20 Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the man, “Young man, your sins are forgiven.”
21 But the Pharisees and teachers of religious law said to themselves, “Who does he think he is? That’s blasphemy! Only God can forgive sins!”
22 Jesus knew what they were thinking, so he asked them, “Why do you question this in your hearts? 23 Is it easier to say ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or ‘Stand up and walk’? 24 So I will prove to you that the Son of Man [fn4] has the authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then Jesus turned to the paralyzed man and said, “Stand up, pick up your mat, and go home!”
25 And immediately, as everyone watched, the man jumped up, picked up his mat, and went home praising God. 26 Everyone was gripped with great wonder and awe, and they praised God, exclaiming, “We have seen amazing things today!”
Mario4Ever (100 D)
17 May 12 UTC
"I think it's a good observation redhouse that the consequences for Jesus gaining the kingdoms of the world in exchange for worshipping Satan may not be severe for Jesus (he's the Son of God) but they could be disastrous for humanity. I can't say that I ever thought of it that way. Luckily we don't have to find that out."

Either there's some sort of glitch or some miscommunication, since the point was mine, not redhouse's.

Anyway, I'm not sure I understand this. Putting aside my biases toward this and other scenarios, Jesus heals a paralyzed man, and that's somehow proof that he can forgive sins (is the passage implying that paralysis is a product of sin)?
Mujus (1495 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
Mario, it's not implying that at all. The deal is that the miracle is evidence of who he is, namely, the promised Messiah of Israel. It's like saying, "Oh, so you don't believe I can forgive people? Watch me do something much more dramatic then." With his miracles giving him credibility, people were more likely to believe his message.
Mario4Ever (100 D)
17 May 12 UTC
I see, but how does the performance of a complex action prove that one is capable of performing an unrelated, less complex action? After all, we don't assume that a person can sing, for example, after listening to him or her recite /The Iliad/ in Latin.
It's the impression of authority that went along with the miracle. It has nothing to do with skill required to forgive sins, but the right to forgive sins. Jesus was going around healing the sick, lame, and blind, in God's name, so it seems reasonable that he could forgive sins in God's name without blasphemeing.
kind of like, I plan, implement, and assess lessons for a middle school, therefore I can send someone to the principal.
or choose not to.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Today's Bible reading is Luke Chapter 6
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=6&v=1&t=NLT#1
in which Jesus chooses the 12 apostles from among his disciples, teaches the disciples, heals many people, and makes enemies by doing so. It ends like this:
47 "I will show you what it’s like when someone comes to me, listens to my teaching, and then follows it. 48 It is like a person building a house who digs deep and lays the foundation on solid rock. When the floodwaters rise and break against that house, it stands firm because it is well built. 49 But anyone who hears and doesn’t obey is like a person who builds a house without a foundation. When the floods sweep down against that house, it will collapse into a heap of ruins.”
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
'Basically if we're going to discuss Job, let's have the discussion and compare interpretaions side by side and see what we come up with. Are you game?'

A fair game, i'm not sure i have the time or inclination. But if i do come back to you i will play by these rules.
Mario4Ever (100 D)
18 May 12 UTC
"When the floodwaters rise and break against that house, it stands firm because it is well built."

That or the homeowner's confidence in the structure of the house blinds him or her to its inner flaws, causing him or her to thereby perceive it as well-built.
I'm a little confused, when the floodwaters rise and break against the house, it isn't the owner's confidence that keeps it standing frim.

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game anonymous experienced players
I would really like to play a game with some of you more experienced players for a bit of a challenge if some of you are up for it!
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rpzrz (417 D)
18 Aug 12 UTC
possible bug?
In the game i was playing me and Russia had a good alliance until suddenly it said he had muted me. On the global chat he said on his end it said i had muted him, there was no reason for betrayal as we needed each other and the game ended up having an annoying 5 way draw, how do i report this to a mod or someone, or do you think he just randomly muted me?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
18 Aug 12 UTC
What's happening with Putin33?
A few months ago he developed a sense of humor, now he's omitting punctuation, something I thought he was pretty precise about. Anybody else notice this?
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Socialgenius78 (0 DX)
16 Aug 12 UTC
Making map variants (mac)
Hello everyone, I know how to make a map variant on windows but my current computer is a mac, does anyone know a mac equivalent to mapmaker for windows? As I have some good variant ideas that ifs like to have in online playable form
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diplomacy_seeker (178 D)
19 Aug 12 UTC
anyone just get an error? or just me?
The message said:
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Sandgoose (0 DX)
16 Aug 12 UTC
Am I cool enough?
I don't get it with webdiplomacy...here I am hovering at a 75 GR...play a pretty fun and exciting game with people but nobody wants to play a game with me....am I doing something wrong? How does one up the cool-o-meter to want to play games with you?
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dubmdell (556 D)
18 Aug 12 UTC
Romney wishes to cut funding to PBS, Arts, Humanities
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-says-will-eliminate-pbs-and-arts-funding-will-invest-war-technology?CID=examiner_alerts_article
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Aug 12 UTC
Diplomacy World Articles...
Message from Diplomacy World's Doiglas Kent (see inside)
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
17 Aug 12 UTC
"Not right now, Lumbergh. I'm kinda busy.
In fact, I'm going to have to ask you to go ahead and just come back another time. I have a meeting with the Bobs in a couple of minutes."
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TheWizard (5364 D(S))
10 Aug 12 UTC
wdc, bitches
World diplomacy championships in chicago.

Awesome crowd, tournament has started, the who is who in diplomacy is here, alan calhammer coming, it is already a blast.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Aug 12 UTC
Diplomacy .... a metaphor for life
The way we play Diplomacy is just a metaphor for life ..... discuss.
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Mapu (362 D)
17 Aug 12 UTC
Why do people
not finalize and leave it with the gray check all the way to the limit? Is it some kind of strategy or just oversight?
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flc64 (1963 D)
18 Aug 12 UTC
Paradoxical Quote of The Day From Ben Stein
"Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to
prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen."

Now add this, "Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens."
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Putin33 (111 D)
17 Aug 12 UTC
Favorite artists; period of art
Surely the high culture types will have opinions on this?

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