I feel the only way to end this properly is with an MS-paint with a big brawl with all characters involved

Wow

Shut the fuck up Chaqa. I invested a lot more time and effort than you early game. Same as HR, I stopped giving a shit when I realized mafia was giving the game away to the bio. We were at a point in which all we could do was ensure mafia lost as well. Not very motivating.

Lets be honest. Guak played poorly because I wasnt in the game to take his shot. Lol

@Jamie

I tried for two days; which is longer than you managed ;)

@Vecna

If the Bio had died I'd probably have reverted to that earlier scumread on you and gone after you; yes. But sadly that never appeared likely.

And Chaqa, your play was downright awful. Fakeclaiming infection was the worst idea ever and only made you look more like bio than anyone else.

No, you just decided to sheep a fucking mafioso and ignore this game for the last three or four days. I seem to remember you saying something like "Vecna is the Inventor, stop fucking trying to discredit him."

LOL

"Guak I agree but you're the top sucker, Chaqa comes in as a good second with the rest of town in a well deserved third place."

Hey...I was decent for a day or two. Hell I fucking nailed the mafia and got teacon lynched. Also Flood was pretty decent too. Also Vecna, you were not MvP everyone else was just bad. Your claim had more holes than swiss cheese and I regret not posting a huge case before I died (mainly cause I wasn't expecting to die until the next night).

If I hadn't fake claimed infection we would have had 0 chance of winning thanks to you guys sheeping Vecna. Flood, Vash, and I tried to make a winning situation FOR TOWN, not hand the game over to the mafia.

"I feel the only way to end this properly is with an MS-paint with a big brawl with all characters involved " - then suddenly dying on ebola [here, i fixed it] ... [runs away in a hurry]

Guak is right about that infection fake-claiming making you look very much bio though Chaqa.....And actually making it harder for mafia to NK bio.

At any rate, im surprised you didnt use this image to discredit my fake-claim.

http://imgur.com/a/vqJA0

I had actually drawn you as the tank, so my logic that I had instructed Guak to shoot Ikaneko was dodgy as shit as well. Thinking that Guak was the vig after that to vest him didnt make much sense either.

Chaqa, you werent creating a winning situation for town.....You literally worsened towns chances to win by going against me and HR.

You blame Guak for sheeping me.....but you were the one sheeping Gold.

Um...Nope we didn't. Like Vecna, I think you and HR are the only ones who think correct town move was to not lynch infected mafia in that game. In fact Vecna if darg had not claimed, lynch you, have gold misfire and lynch gold was a win for town. Or if you had killed Bio at any point and realized it was gold....

Aye... I see I shouldn't have claimed. I actually saw it ten minutes later and THOUGHT about claiming I was lying... but didn't see any good result from that. Sorry, town.

I had no reason to join you guys. You were advocating to lynch rdrivera and then dargo. I knew that both were pretty likely to be town, and therefore were bad lynches.

I had at that point narrowed bio down to either Goldie, Flood, or krellin. We lynched krellin, who flipped mafia, so the next day, when presented with a mafia lynch or a town lynch... why would I join a town lynch?

I would have jumped on a goldie wagon had one ever been formed by town members, but the only time we got close was Day 6, and by then we realized the Stalker (peter) was spreading the infection.

Cue my comment about hoping peter might just night kill himself, because it was obvious to me the mafia was letting the infection spread out of control.

If the Stalker hadn't been so indiscriminate, we could have taken a day to lynch the bio, but mafia were basically turning it into a Cold War.

Yeah, like...do you not know how exponents work?

If you fucking quarantined the infection, town probably would be like "okay little risk to killing Bio right now over mafia" instead you put us into a game of chicken.

oh btw, peter wasnt spreading infection. We roleblocked Guak, since we knew bio was likely to infect the unkillable town regardless to make a statement.

Peter stalked Guak as well to get infected in case he were to die, so that my claim wouldnt go down the shitter.

I never back down from a good game of chicken.

Source: I play Reinhardt in Overwatch. STANDOFFS

And Chaqa, cmon. We were advocating to lynch ANYONE in that pool of 5 people, but we didnt have a magical rod that gave us more information than you. We wouldve joined on anyone in that pool, which i stated repeatedly.

And I did make it very clear that Krellin wasnt the bio. Heck I even gave you the entire scumteam on a platter just to go and help lynch the bio but still you refused.


Thats the thing that bothers me the most. Town played while only looking at their own perspective and interest, not even thinking about what their choices would mean to scum - while there was a clear common interest. Diplomacy players should know better in that regard

The only person who thought that was a "good" game of chicken was goldfinger.

You trying to get town to win guaranteed town lost. If you didn't think darg or rdrivera were Bio, you should've pushed on the person you did think was Bio. Instead, everyone ignored me and went after the (fairly obvious) mafia. Fairly obvious mafia were the best ones to keep alive because it'd have given us an easy time post-bio death.

You can't play a setup with a third party that is essentially Reverse Cult like a normal setup. Everyone who did cost us the game.

I can sympathize with guak. Vig is the hardest role. Your either a hero or everyone judges every decision.

Chaqa you insisting to hunt scum all time, made it very uninteresting for us to go after the Bio with the night kill. We were few to start with and you killing us off one by one forced us to force town to spend your lynch kill to kill the bio. How messed up is your mind failing to see such a simple connection?

Every vig should be the vig-role that I played a few games ago. If you suck, you die instead yourself.

it was like that last game vecna kind of, that desperado is crazy. you were MVP right?

There was no MVP that game (according to the GM at least, but in my mind im MVP in every game I play)

The thing that Vecna fails to acknowledge here is that he was privately planning to infect every member of the town the entire time whether the bio got lynched or not. For fuck's sake, he was debating on who was bio last night and intending to kill Chaqa in either case. Doing what he wanted town to do was a certain loss for town once you acknowledge that Vecna never had any intention of acting in good faith, which was obviously more obvious to us in the God thread than others, but was also somewhat apparent based on the threats he and Teacon were making.

What town did actually gave both teams a chance to win if the bio was shot by mafia. Town was worse off, so scum needed to kill the bio more than town did.

yea vecna, there was a bad one you had in there, M17... ;)

ehehe

Yes, I had no illusions about mafia's intent. I knew that for mafia to win, they HAD to kill the bio. For town to win, we COULDN'T kill the bio after a certain point.

The only scenario town won is if mafia killed the bio.

Mafia just needed the bio to die.

So if town wouldn't, couldn't kill the bio... they SHOULD have done it themselves.

They didn't, and the bio won.