It was less of a lynching and more like when you take your really really sick dog to the vet one last time. Brainbomb went to live on a farm where he can chase rabbits outside all day and they feed him his favorite food every night.

So, yeah, I strongly believe that if HR scanned Chaqa and he turned up town, there HAS to be a Godfather, so clears can be viewed as really mostly clear. But this also guarantees that guak and Vash are scum. If Chaqa turns up scum in a scan, though, then he's an obvious lynch.

Brainbomb belonged on a farm anyway. The funny farm.

Both chaqa and prado pushing for guak and vash.

We could lynch chaqa next if angel survives. Gives no extra information to scum to make the angel hunt easier. However id say trprado is more likely scum in my eyes

In case I am nightkilled I'll give some updated reads:

Chaqa - Claims to have been roleblocked but I am not persuaded of the truth of this statement. Still not as involved as I'd like to see, but has behaved in a more helpful and town-like way in the last day or so. NULL.

DemonOverlord - SCANNED INNO. However if one of the scanned people is actually scum I'd say DO is the most likely candidate.

guak - Slight town but I'm finding him hard to read.

Hellenic Riot - CLEARED TOWN 100%

jamiet99uk - CLEARED TOWN 100%

Maniac - SCANNED INNO and was a townread for me until he started behaving strangely around the time he outed my role (although not my identity) however I'm inclined to believe his intentions were good.

sammitchgamgee - SCANNED INNO and probably town. Was a bit distracted by brainbomb especially at first but has contributed constructively lately.

OB_Gyn_Kenobi - CLEARED TOWN

TrPrado - Fairly sure TrPrado is SCUM

Vecna - CLEARED TOWN 100%

VashtaNeurotic - I agree with sammitch's read and find Vashta PROBABLY SCUM


My guess at the scumteam right now is TrPrado, Vashta and A.N. Other, possibly DO but also possibly Chaqa.

Whether I survive the night or not, I strongly advise town to lynch TrPrado.

##End

Where is everybody?

Sleeping

Hi Hellenic. You should post your updated reads in case you get horribly murdered in your bed.

There's an Angel. I'm invincible. As is OB.

Angel can't be rb'd?

The "roles" document specifically says:

"as long as you are alive and have not been roleblocked" the protected people cannot be killed except by lynching.

So, yeah, the Angel can be roleblocked.

They'll have to find the angel and roleblock them first. The only thing they know for sure is I'm not the angel, so they have a low chance of finding him.

He can, but mafia probably won't risk trying for angel because they need to RB HR

They'll probably just role block Chaqa again, amirite?

On that note, do we have a good theory as to why Chaqa would have been roleblocked twice? Is there a decent reason not to simply assume that Chaqa is lying?

as ob was saved the night b4 if chaqa is town, scum must have thought chaqa was cop - but then why not kill him? also copchaqa doesnt push vtghug the way he did and it was obv to me (and i assuwme mafia that hr was cop. all in all rb chaqa makes little sense

Hmm. I agree with drunk phone-posting Maniac.

Consider my above list of reads modified to read Chaqa as SCUM.

i suppose i should qualify my hr read. as i knew he wasnt visited by fh until at least n3, hr's certainty on vecna had to come from cop knowldge. as mafia dont have mine and jamie knowledge then hr's being cop maybe not so obvious - not drunk btw

##GM NOTE

Night will end at 7pm EST tomorrow (Friday 11th).

Why would scum Chaqa fake-claim RB? That's what I cannot figure out, since it means that the mafia either held their RB or RB'ed someone who is unwilling to counterclaim the RB. I can't see scum holding their RB when there are all of the PRs still alive in the game. Killing me was likely a test to see if Angel or Doctor was in play, which makes sense. Maybe they thought Chaqa was Doc?

##CALL GM

Isn't that longer than the normal 24 hours?

@ OB_Gyn: Why would they think Chaqa was the doc?

##GM NOTE

If the day phase is ended early, then the night phase is extended to maintain the correct deadline time, unless all PRs/Mafia members agree to end it early which they haven't.

I don't know, I'm trying to figure out why they would RB him. But you're right, he couldn't be doc (based on his RB claim) because HR and I were saved even when he was RB'ed.

They could only have thought he was the cop. But scum couldn't have thought that he was cop with his "I know for a fact that ghug is scum". A cop wouldn't say that unless he had a scan, and mafia knew ghug was inno.

1 TOWN PROTECTIVE (Angel/Doctor/Jailer) - Unknown, but cannot be Chaqa if RB claim is true.
1 TOWN KILLING (Vigilante/Marine/Gunsmith) - That's me, known since D4
1 TOWN INVESTIGATIVE (Cop/Lazy Cop/Tracker) - The only possible role that would be RB'ed by mafia and Chaqa would be a very unlikely candidate to hold this role.
1 TOWN SUPPORT (Friendly Headmaster/Monitor/Bomb) - Identity here was known before Chaqa's RB claims, right?

Maybe mafia is desperate to get a member as close to town-cleared as possible, and holding the RB while Chaqa fake-claims it is the best plan they could come up with.

What would Occam say?

ts wasnt 100% known but hr had said it was vecna

rb tends to draw suspicion and kills in our games - but it might be hail-mary play?

By the time of Chaqa's *second* RB claim I think most people had worked out that the FH was me.