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SYnapse (0 DX)
29 Apr 14 UTC
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Keep putting webdiplomacy on the map
http://oi57.tinypic.com/akec6e.jpg

good job guys
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Albion (100 D)
30 Apr 14 UTC
Having trouble support moving
Hi guys I'm having trouble support moving, I'm clicking support move, to,the land that the first destroyer/tank is moving from, and then pressing the place where I hope to take over (where my other unit is attempting to move into)
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
28 Apr 14 UTC
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A second baby girl
This is probably irrelevant to most of you, but my second daughter just came into the world. Where do I go to share this news? Webdip.
In any event, she's healthy and I am one happy papa.
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President Eden (2750 D)
02 Apr 14 UTC
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MAFIA I: WEBDIPLOMACY INVADED BY MULTIS?!?!
As above below
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Do I have a 'Phone a Friend' left?
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
You have friends?

BOOM, MAFIA BURN!

K back to being dead. I hate you Thucy.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
No, it actually seems I've lynched all my friends.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
sigh...
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
I don't want to kill you abge....but I have to.

##VOTE Abgemacht, the Brilliant, the Conniving, the Devious, the Glom-on, the Mafia Man.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Noooooooooooooo.....I can't do it yet...

##UNVOTE

(whew...)
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
Um...

Would you be willing to provide a bit more justification?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
Lol

OK, take it easy there, krellin. : )
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
"Would you be willing to provide a bit more justification? "

Yeah, you are smarter than Vash, and have blended in so well (to me) that I don't suspect you. I think if you are the mafia, you have specifically not killed me because I have been your ally, and you don't fear me. You have used the cover I have provided extremely well...and thus I think you are mostly likely the mafia.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
If Vash is mafia, he is just so bad at it, making himself the brunt of suspicious in so many ridiculous ways. He's just too ridiculous to be guilty.

Abge - it's a compliment that I want to kill you. It really is! :) Plus....you know...krellin having a deciding hand in killing abge....god, what more could I want for my webdip experience to be utterly complete. I might retire from the site.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
(And just to be clear, I've felt this way for days...not a sudden change of heart.)
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
If you were me - be honest - and looking at you versus the utterly ridiculous Vash, who would you think is the sly, devious mafia man hiding out in the open?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
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So, I get all that. But it's going to suck when we lose this game just because you think I'm clever.

Honestly, the mafia have been playing pretty poorly. They couldn't find the doctor, even though it was pretty clear it was Fasces. They missed several kills in a row for no reason. And they went around role blocking people seemingly at random. It accomplished nothing and proved a bunch of people innocent.

If I'm as clever as you think I am, then wouldn't the mafia have already won if I was guilty? : )
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
If I was you, abge would have been the first person I investigated. You didn't though and it's because you trust my judgement and believe I'm innocent.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
/\ So, you are saying go with my day one gut on this one, huh?

Vash's only positive is his yebellz defense - where he quotes yebellz defense of him with the sudden save, etc...it's one of those "the mafia had 2 votes on him and it was only by a sudden vote switch of someone that later turned up townie that he didn't die..."

I Vash hadn't pulled that defense out from yebz, I would have zero reason to trust him.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
Yeah, I get that defense, but I don't find it that convincing. Again, if you think I'm so clever, why didn't I kill Vash, knowing that would be an issue for me down the line?
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
You're clever, not psychic. Who would have figured an insane man would make it this far.

errr...Vash the insane, not krellin the insane (because that's questionable, too)
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Apr 14 UTC
Well, do what yo gotta do. Fasces has pretty much checked out, so I don't think anyone will blame you if you mess up.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Well its tough, for the first few days, Abge and Vash where the two I was most suspicious of, now I know only one of them is mafia.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
So who do you want to vote for Fasces?
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
I don't know, when is the deadline?
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Just what is your gut feeling - right now?
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
I think Deadline is tomorrow at 7 CST
Okay, time to make my argument. The main basis for this argument will be the voting record, as i do not feel like going through 118 pages to look for quotes.

The First I would like to say is Fasces, I perfectly understand why you thought me and abge were mafia, especially since one of us definitely is mafia. However, I would like to point out that you never found me suspicious until I defended abge, I now know your suspicions were correct. At that time I did have a suspicion of abge, but the conclusion I reached was that he was definitely not a vanilla townie, but could just as easily be the cop or the vigilante as well as mafia. When krellin and Thucy were outed I did not jump to the immediate conclusion he must be mafia, but I was certainly willing to vote for him, but I also did not want to be proven wrong, lest I be the next one lynched.

Over these rounds abge has lobbied hard for the lynching of townies, and only townies. Like I said before he has voted for the following: Chaqa, Sevyas, Alex, yebellz, pj, Sevyas. The votes I would like to ring attention to are the ones for Sevyas, yebellz and Sevyas again, as I, like most people voted for everyone else on that list.

The reason I believe abge voted for Sevyas in the second round is because Sevyas voted for him in the first, now this may have been a move of emotion, but as krellin has stated abge is a rational guy, why would he let something like Sevyas voting for him get under his skin, unless it was that suspicion that would get him caught as mafia.

The most important vote for me is his vote for yebellz. During that round I was one of the strongest people lobying for captainmeme, if I was mafia this would be a downright stupid move as I would be unecessarily causing the death of one of my allies. If I had quietly piggybacked on the votes of others, like TMW, abge might have a point with me voting for captain to divert suspicion, but i did not do that. I would also like to point out that abge voted with both y2k and captainmeme for yebellz. Now why would I not only lead a vote (with Thucy) against one of my partners when TMW and I could save him by voting for yebellz, especially when we could do so by saying we were upholding the block. I may be crazy but not stupid.

Now i believe abge has been supporting the block to hide. I have sometimes been reluctant to vote with the block (like with Alex) but I would like to point out those people I did not want to vote for were innocent.

Anyway, I would like to point out that i was very vocal against the lynching of Sevyas late in the game. I could have supported it to avoid suspicion, but instead I wanted to vote for TMW. In fact I tried to convince abge to switch, and he refused. Also both TMW and abge wanted to end it on Sevyas, and both expressed the same false surprise when he turned up innocent. It was almost like they were working together, oh wait, they were.

I would like to ask you two both a question? Does it really make sense that i was working with y2k capt and TMW all this time, or working against them? I may be crazy, but I am not stupid enough to not know I should protect my team whenever I am able to. If I was mafia, would I not be the first person they would want to sacrifice, as opposed to captain? And even if they did that, doing something like that so early would cause a horrible numbers disadvantage? If I was mafia, I would have to be the worst mafia ever, and yet at the same time I would have outlasted all my allies, does that even make sense? It doesn't.

I would like to remind you i came so close to death on day 2 with capt y2k and TMW voting against me. The only reason abge didn't join in is because he did not have the time to. And I was saved at the last minute not by mafia, but by a townie.

Also krellin, I think maybe you are just not adapted to my style of deduction. I like to throw science against the wall and see what sticks. After all, when when life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade! You make life take the lemons back! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man whose gonna burn your house down - with the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that'll burn your house down!

Anyway, I think that is the best argument I can make. My defense is that the mafia tried to kill me early, and if I was mafia, it would make no sense that I managed to get this far. Abge on the other hand, has cleverly manipulated the vote to get townies killed and hidden well, despite the suspicion of numerous townies. Also #MafiaConspiracy.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Vash ... you have too little faith in me.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Vash has the voting history on his side, but I do sorta agree with Abge's logic.

I thought it was pretty obvious that I was doc after I was saved, Vash was the only one who publically made it clear that he believed I was not doc. I do believe that if abge was mafia, I would have died on n3.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Also can we have an unofficial vote update? While I know Vash voted for Abge and Abge voted for Vash, which vote came first? ie in the case of a tiebreaker who gets lynched?
krellin (80 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
How was it clear you were the doc? Refresh me, because I never got the impression that anyone was obviously the doc.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
28 Apr 14 UTC
CASPER THE FRIENDLY VOTEGHOST:

VashtaNeurotic votes abgemacht
abgemacht votes VashtaNeurotic

abge (1): Vash
Vash (1): abge

Votes outstanding (2): Fasces, krellin

Votes to end: 0/3: no one

Currently, ABGEMACHT is set to be lynched.

Approxamitely 29 hours remain in the day
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Apr 14 UTC
1. I was saved
2. A few times I accidentally gave insight into who the save was before the save was made.
3. I thought it was pretty obvious that Warden's doc was clearly a fake claim, but then again that might be because I knew it was fake.

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krellin (80 DX)
29 Apr 14 UTC
What "White Male Privilege"???
http://www.theonion.com/articles/white-male-privilege-squandered-on-job-at-best-buy,35835/

<throws hook...>
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Apr 14 UTC
It's Maple's Alter Ego! (But Seriously--Should Serling Be Forced to Sell the Team?)
http://nba.si.com/2014/04/29/donald-sterling-adam-silver-nba-owners-reaction/ To be clear--this is HYPOTHETICAL. There's nothing in the NBA Constitution that gives the commissioner the right to do this, so this is more just a thought experiment--say that power existed, and Adam Silver COULD force Serling to sell the team based on his repeated racist comments over the years, with this last doozy being the kicker. If the power existed, SHOULD the man lose his team over this?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
27 Apr 14 UTC
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TIL how to spell Heligoland Bight
Apparently it isn't Helgoland, it's Heligoland.

Been playing for 8 years!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
25 Mar 14 UTC
In search of the Holy spirit
A daily log of YJ's journey to find joy and unity with the Christian God. Strap yourself in kids, this might take awhile.
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sanctacaris (556 D)
28 Apr 14 UTC
Gunboat game for the reliable but poor
I'm tired of the NMRs and CDs that are far too common i the low-bet games I can afford to play. I'd love to play in the big-pot games with the best players, but I don't have the $ (and, hey, I'm not that good anyway). If there are other middle of the road players who feel the same way, perhaps we can organize a password-protected game (or two if there's enough interest) of reliable gunboaters. More below.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
26 Apr 14 UTC
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Evolution at work?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/virginia-christians-prepare-for-40-day-hunger-strike-against-same-sex-marriage/
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Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Apr 14 UTC
Epic Win
Before you follow link, guess how many SCs the winner has? It's a ancient med game...

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=139925#gamePanel
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
26 Apr 14 UTC
Phase length for FTF games?
I've been thinking about putting together a face to face game for some new players (friends who don't play diplomacy.... yet). But, I've never played FTF myself - so:

What kind of phase lengths do people use? I assume that there's also a time or turn cap too (eg game ends in 1910)?
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ShaolinNinja (341 D)
27 Apr 14 UTC
Need an England, Not a bad spot at all
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
27 Apr 14 UTC
Colm Feore as Lear in Stratford.
We're going May 17 or 24, as per Mrs. maple.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
25 Apr 14 UTC
The redefinition of sexual assault
This is a problem to me.
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
26 Apr 14 UTC
Going to see the Iron Sheik today.
Respect the Legend, Bubba!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Apr 14 UTC
Underage Drinking
Two IU players busted for underage drinking, one I know well. I guess the shocking part of their arrests is that the police in B-town are such assholes that they go around hunting for underage drinkers on Little 500 Day.

Please tell me no one on webDip suffered until 21 before their first drink.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Apr 14 UTC
Bought a new pet today...
A veiled chameleon. He's a little older (adolescent, not juvenile) and really cool. Already he is getting used to me and will hang out on my shirt sleeve and such.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Apr 14 UTC
Is... Is This... A Joke?
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/national/Driver+fatal+collision+with+cyclists+suing+dead+teen/9772606/story.html

She's just got a sick sense of humor, right?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
23 Apr 14 UTC
Statute of Limitations
Dear Staff:

What is the statue of limitations for prosecuting people who have broken the site rules, cheating specifically?
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WardenDresden (239 D(B))
24 Apr 14 UTC
Woody Allen, child molestor[?], given a lifetime achievement award.
So, one of my courses this semester is about "contemporary issues" and one of the issues I'm supposed to debate during our final is whether Woody Allen deserved the lifetime achievement award given to him by the Golden Globes. I've been assigned to argue on the side that he should not have gotten the award. And I want to hear what the people of WebDip think. Source links in the thread.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
25 Apr 14 UTC
So I should be dancing in about 5 hours from now...
But I can't dance. How do I make sure that it's decent enough to not look ridiculous?
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Cpt Steve Zissou (140 D)
24 Apr 14 UTC
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Grammar Nazi
Hi all, I'm new here but have been playing Diplomacy for years and years. Apologies if this post carries the stigma of any WebDip forum taboos...
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President Eden (2750 D)
26 Apr 14 UTC
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NY Cop Accidentally Shoots Partner During Drunken Gun Show-And-Tell
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/apparently-accidentally-shot-partner-sources-article-1.1767458

"I wasn't drunk, just had a couple of shots!"
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krellin (80 DX)
25 Apr 14 UTC
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God Is Disappointed In You
YJ -- Here you go buddy Go buy this and let me know what you think. In fact, I think I might have to go buy this and let you kow what I think. Best Title for "God's Word" I can think of, too -- after all, front to back, page 1 to last, that's pretty much what the whole thing is about. God is Disappointed In You:
http://boingboing.net/2014/04/02/god-is-disappointed-in-you.html
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Apr 14 UTC
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Because the NFL Season NEVER Ends...NINERS! SEAHAWKS! THANKSGIVING NIGHT!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-schedule--2014-campaign-kicks-off-with-packers-at-seahawks-001858591.html
The schedules for each NFL team is out...we begin with Yellowjacket's Packers looking for revenge for the "Fail Mary" against the Seahawks...and come Thanksgiving...mark my words, it's gonna be one of the biggest and biggest-hyped Thanksgiving games ever...the Seahawks! The Niners! By the Bay on Turkey Day! :D
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Apr 14 UTC
Paglia on the Drinking Age: Discuss
http://time.com/72546/drinking-age-alcohol-repeal/
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
24 Apr 14 UTC
Reason for Putin33's absence
Why did our number one Russian apologist disappear roughly around the time Crimea was annexed
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Maniac (189 D(B))
22 Apr 14 UTC
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I envy the USA
In sleepy UK our police officers arn't allowed to shoot and kill people for aggressive use of a pen
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27106445
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Apr 14 UTC
Flappy 2048
So, you think you're cool for beating 2048?

http://flappy2048.com/
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