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tendmote (100 D(B))
26 Jan 14 UTC
Is Communism a form of religious belief?
Is Communism a form of religious belief, where instead of seeing God’s hand at work in all things, one sees the class struggle? When historical events are re-interpreted from a Communist viewpoint in a discussion with non-Communists, is the effect the same as when believers re-interpret historical events as divine intervention, in a discussion with atheists?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Jan 14 UTC
Assholes of the world unite!
Let's get another asshole game going, this time on the world map!

FP, WTA, 50 D, World Map, non-anon, must not be a thin-skinned fucktard.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 Jan 14 UTC
On homeless-ness
http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jan 14 UTC
Making a comeback
I have actually played any diplomacy in quiet a while.

So for my comeback special, i'd like to invite all interested parties!
gameID=134328 (wta, non-anon, full-press, classic)
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tendmote (100 D(B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
BEEF GAME Needs one more!
I'm setting up the best Beef Game ever gameID=134413: tendmote vs. strauss, michiganman, lando calrissian, putin33, krellin, and one special guest
If you want to be the final player just let me know and get me or one of the other players to give you the password, "mutethemods"
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
18 Jan 14 UTC
Live Full Press
Details in a moment

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=133895
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LSseckman (100 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
Is this a record?
gameID=132855

Credit to Frenchie 29 being a good sport about prolonging the game to make this happen
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Moderator Team Updates
Congratulations to goldfinger0303 for your promotion as the sites newest admin. Captainmeme will be stepping down as an admin due to time constraints, but will still be staying on the team as the vDiplomacy guest moderator to help our two sites stay in contact.
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tendmote (100 D(B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
ADVERTISE YOUR LIVE GAMES HERE
Utilize this thread by posting new live games here and only here.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Wisdom or Rubbish? A Thread for Evaluating Famous One-Line Nuggets of Advice.
Post your favorite--or most hated--one-line maxim or saying or quote or *insert another synonym here.*

The next person to post will then say what they think of your posted saying, ie, Wisdom or Rubbish and why, and post their own little one-liner. Repeat until hell freezes over (or we get bored...or we devolve into a name-calling contest...whichever comes first...ha, as if it's a question which will come first...)
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versanshie (283 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Rank falling dramatically
So, one day my rank said that I was in the top 62% and I was considered a member... but then randomly it fell to the top 92% and now I'm a casual player. I didn't draw, win, lose, survive, or resign any games in between this period. Why did this happen?
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Deutschland97 (227 D)
20 Jan 14 UTC
ATTENTION ALL LIBERALS...
If you had to go conservative on any subject of debate, what would it be?
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
Draws in PPSC
I was wondering to myself why the pot is split evenly in a PPSC draw. I thought it would make more sense, and make things more interesting, if the draw ended the game and dealt out the points each player is currently "worth" in the game.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jan 14 UTC
SoW for gunboat players
Hamster...have you thought about opening a school for gunboat as it is almost entirely a different strategy?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
24 Jan 14 UTC
LOL Funny!
At least for Star Wars geeks like me it is. Completely safe for work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyqfHvoUtkU
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
19 Jan 14 UTC
Surely not another religious retard
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

David Cameron causing floods by supporting legislation on gay marriage ..... what a nasty bastard he is !!
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
23 Jan 14 UTC
Woman Gang Raped in India
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-25855325

she did a right to appeal ...... I guess not !!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
23 Jan 14 UTC
Computer Issue
Anyone know how to fix msvcr80.dll missing errors? I tried re-installing the C++ 2005 Microsoft pack which has it to no avail.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
22 Jan 14 UTC
Screw Football, This is more important
Warren Buffet is handing out $1 billion to whoever picks a perfect March Madness Bracket
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Dec 13 UTC
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NFL Pick 'em--PLAYOFF EDITION...12 TEAMS, 1 GOAL...IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!
The Chargers are the last team standing in that crazy race for the 6th seed in the AFC. Aaron Rodgers rained all over Da Bears' parade, leading the Pack to victory and setting up another classic Niners/Packers clash...only this time, at Lambeau Field. A typical Cowboys/Eagles clash ended in the typical Cowboy way...but it was Orton throwing the season-ending pick this time. The NFC: SEA, CAR, PHI, GB, SF, NO. The AFC: DEN, NE, CIN, IND, KC, SD. The Playoffs...PICK 'EM!
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
23 Jan 14 UTC
Racism? Biology and Culture.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/about-thinking/201312/four-simple-reasons-smart-people-shouldnt-believe-in-races
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kaner406 (356 D)
22 Jan 14 UTC
Mars mystery:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-22/mars-mystery-white-rock-appears-on-rover-camera/5212640
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tendmote (100 D(B))
20 Jan 14 UTC
Anyone here ever Master anything?
Anyone here ever Master anything? Top of your profession at something?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
21 Jan 14 UTC
The 7 Deadly Biases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prPXSRKYi6Y
funny story... the status quo has doomed use all!
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
23 Jan 14 UTC
English Defence League
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK-vRo9ux9o&feature=youtu.be

brilliant......
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thehamster (3263 D)
30 Sep 13 UTC
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The Official Thread for The School of War: Fall 2013
gameID=126887
This is the official thread for professor commentary. This is also a place to ask the professors questions in response to their commentary.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Hey bas, good to see you again, welcome back! That's a great point you make, and I will talk about that in my next post. Everyone should have a long term on how they could get to 18 centers.
uclabb (589 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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What do the professors thing about France's build in Brest?
RAZ000 (272 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Bump
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I think it was an interesting choice, and highlights France's caution to the possibility of an England stab. It also puts him in a difficult position against Italy, who is clearly in a position to make France's life difficult without the extra fleet to help him out. In a game with more experienced players I think it would be more indicative of next turns moves, but at this stage, with everyone still feeling out how endgames work I think next turn will be a lot more telling then the builds.
A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Would you share what moves the builds could indicate in an experienced game? (Perhaps after the turn has passed)
RAZ000 (272 D(G))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Bump.
Spring 1907 retreats are done, moved to Autumn 1907 diplomacy.
It's an interesting new game :D
mendax (321 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Bump
thehamster (3263 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
Spring 1907

There were 3 neat and clean ideas that were floating around about how this season would have gone. I thought that England, France, and Turkey would work to eliminate Italy and draw. Some may have thought that England would continue pushing his positional advantage to aim for a solo. Others figured that everybody would stop fighting each other, and everybody would attack England. None of those things happened.

This game might go on for several more weeks. Nobody has a draw vote up, so apparently everybody has intentions to keep on playing. As long as you keep playing, I'll keep commenting.

1. England. You were stabbed by France, but apparently you expected it. England is positionally so strong that there wasnt much damage to be done. Nonetheless, England managed to make some big blunders. Moving a fleet into the Gulf of Bothnia rather than westward towards the action earns him a wag of my finger. He had a shot at taking munich outright. The good news is that England is likely to manage a build or 3, so he may be able to drop some much needed fleets in the northwest waters. On the plus side for England as well is the fact that he has stranded Italy in Livonia. Cute. Gosh, that Bothnia fleet would look so much nicer in Kiel. I hope youre kicking yourself for that one.

2. Italy. This could be a chance to scrape up higher in the rankings for Italy, but its really only a chance right now. France is facing the other way to take on England, and nobody is paying much attention to what the Italian is doing. There might be some disbands this season, but its not all bad for Italy.

3. France. Stabbing the Brit was bold, but it would have been a million times better if he was able to secure support from the Italian. Instead, France signaled his lack of goodwill by sliding into Tuscany. France can wiggle himself into a nice position in the fall, but he has to lose an enemy. Fortunately, he gave england a scare and shook the board up. Although that may be a bad thing.

4. Turkey. Despite not being the target of any attacks, Turkeys position is awkward. He should have expected that Moscow would be unable to support hold Sev, allowing Armenia to slide in with Black Sea support. Instead, Turkeys pieces are terrible and uncoordinated (a fleet in the south coast of Bulgaria... Awful). On the plus side, his only sworn enemy is about to die.

5. Russia. In your final moment, you managed to trap Italy in Livonia. Thats cool.

Comments and questions? I'm sure I missed plenty.
uclabb (589 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
How is France's position possibly better than Turkey's?
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
22 Nov 13 UTC
S 1907

Like the end of a good movie, we're finally starting to see all the main plot lines start to intersect and decisions made earlier in the game will come back to haunt our players.

Unlike Hamster, I don't think England was prepared for this stab at all. The bounce in NAO looks entirely coincidental to me - if anything, it was merely a precautionary move by England that bought him some time after France chose NAO over IRI. Personally, I think a move to IRI would have been more productive in an English attack, but with a serious dearth of French armies to convoy, I think its a tossup here. I think France surprised England based on the movements of the English armies. England went and created a massive logjam of units in eastern Germany. In particular, the move from Kie-Ber makes no sense to me. Likewise BAL - GoB. Units can only push so far east before it gets counterproductive. No, France caught England entirely off guard, and a failure to attack France last year now has England's units so far out of position as to be entirely useless.

1. ENGLAND - You dodged a bullet from the French stab with the NAO bounce, but you still have some reasons to sweat. You need units on the west, but your armies are so far out of position that its going to take several turns to maneuver them into a useful position. I have no idea why you thought it was a good idea to create that logjam in Germany, but now you have a choice - do you cover London, support Holland, cover Kiel, try for Munich, eliminate Russia, or something entirely different? The fastest way to cover Liverpool is to get a build, but at the same time, you probably don't want Russia hanging around for long. It would be very nice to have that Baltic fleet in Denmark right now, instead of GoB. Good luck this turn.

2. ITALY - I thought for sure that A Ven was going to Pied, which would have been my move, which would have also put you right into Marseilles and changed your outlook entirely. Your outlook improved tremendously with the French stab - your survival chances just went up dramatically and would have even more if you had moved to Pied. Depending on whether you choose to work with England or not, things are looking up if you can keep Turkey in check.

3. FRANCE - This is an excellent example of why France needs to maintain a healthy balance of armies and navies. MAO is a serious chokepoint for fleets, while having three fleets in the south but only two in a position to attack England hurts your chances of doing much against England in the immediate future. However, its the lack of armies that really hurts you right now. If a more experienced player were playing as France, he would likely have no fewer than four armies right now. If France only has seven centers but has enough fleets to engage both England AND Italy, that's a good sign you have too many fleets. Now, Munich is threatened, and you likely won't get a much needed build this year if you lose Munich. The move to Tuscany was utterly useless, and not moving to IRI means that the MAO chokepoint killed any chance of getting the jump on England. You can get Holland, but its a small victory if you also lose Munich while still having Burgundy and Piedmont entirely undefended.

4. TURKEY - You're a worse flipflopper than John Kerry in 2004. You should have taken Sev three turns ago, so this year you would have taken Rumania already. Italy only has a single support on Rum - there is no reason at all why you couldn't be at seven centers and threatening Italy's eastern flank. Instead, you're only now breaking out of your corner, with a fleet in Bul impeding progress against Italy.

5. RUSSIA - Nice game.

jmo1121109 (3812 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
I'll try and get a write up in tomorrow, but I might be delayed till Sunday. There's a lot I want to cover so I'll need a lot of time.
thehamster (3263 D)
24 Nov 13 UTC
After looking at the board on a screen larger than my phone, I'll have to agree with 2WL. England was, indeed, caught off-guard by France. Fortunately, I'm in the professor's union, so my job isn't in danger despite the lousy analysis.

For those curious, Turkey is ranked last among the nations not named Russia because, despite having the luxury of being nestled in a safe corner, the horrible placement of his pieces and the general laziness of his attacks indicates that his diplomacy and future prospects are meager. When you count the players who have already been eliminated, Turkey is 4th out of 7, so that's not too bad, really.
RAZ000 (272 D(G))
24 Nov 13 UTC
Bump. Phase ended.
Things are getting messy :D
thehamster (3263 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
Bump
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
bad news, I've been sick this weekend and didn't write anything up, good news I'm taking a sick tomorrow and will be writing something up. lol
Scoggle (234 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
Feel better jmo. :-)
duckofspades (170 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
Bump and ehh bump
exninja (100 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
Bump
A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
Bump, retreats are in.
RAZ000 (272 D(G))
26 Nov 13 UTC
Bump
thehamster (3263 D)
26 Nov 13 UTC
Fall 1907

This game has gotten so messy that I'm surprised nobody has thrown up their hands and voted Draw yet. Apparently, the players think that this game still has a lot of life. (I'll look back with great surprise upon this game when it's 1917 and Russia has solo-ed).

1. England. England has managed to withstand the loss of one of his home supply centers without much anxiety. The movements this turn have honestly left me bewildered. England managed to convince Italy not to bounce him in Munich, which ensured that England got a build and France did not. But at the same time, England invested 3 of his pieces to pop Italy's isolated army in Livonia. What's the relationship with Italy exactly? I'm not so sure, but I hope it's mostly positive, because everybody-against-England will be hard to stop. Fortunately for England, he has a nice bloc of armies, which outnumbers France's land force by a lot. I'm still questioning the benefit of having a fleet in Livonia, when 5 of France's fleets are sailing towards the island. My advice to England is to get a clear plan in place to gain advantage and to clear up the messy relationship with Italy. In builds, France built an army in Liverpool to defend his home.

2. Italy. Through some combination of diplomacy and Turkey's own ineptitude, Italy has managed to keep his own losses mitigated. True, Italy's unit in Warsaw got dislodged and popped this year, but he wasn't making much of an effort to hold it anyway. I'm questioning Italy's decision not to bounce England in Munich. If Italy wants to help England, he should be sending armies into Piedmont to squeeze France. If he wants to help France, than he should have bounced Munich. What is Italy doing?

3. France. The path to attacking England and making progress is getting harder and harder. It would have been fantastic if Italy had bounced England in Munich, but who can expect him to help the French cause when an enemy fleet was sitting in Tuscany? At the moment it looks like 2 separate battles are forming: England versus France, and Italy versus Turkey. If I were France, I wouldn't be too happy to let that happen.

4. Turkey. It's just amazing that you don't have Rumania. Italy is most certainly defending against you, and sometimes, if somebody is expecting you to attack them, you might as well just attack them, because they certainly won't be your friends anyway. If Turkey was expecting Serbia to support-hold Rumania, he could have bumped Serbia with his army in Greece, and used the Black Sea to support Sev to Rumania, while moving Armenia to fill in Sev. Instead, Turkey has an army in Ukraine (why?) and a terrible position. The awful fleet in Bulgaria may be replaced with an army soon, since Turkey built an army in Constantinople during the winter adjustment. Lots of green armies are coming Turkey's way, and I don't expect them to be friendly.

5. Russia. Still hanging on with one dot.
thehamster (3263 D)
26 Nov 13 UTC
Bump
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
26 Nov 13 UTC
F 1907

I'm going to go out on a limb and make a prediction. This game will end in one of two ways. Russia will be killed off and there will be a four way draw after the upcoming build turn. The other option is a prolonged mess of a game where Italy and Turkey mess around with Greece and Rumania, France continues to bumble his stab of England, and we end up with a four way draw, but not for another two months.

Its frustrating as a supposedly "impartial" observer to watch a game with beginners. My own GR notwithstanding, its a lot like watching a youth basketball game. How did you miss that wide open layup? Don't pass to the other team! Why are you sitting down in the middle of the game? Ultimately, this is a learning process, and I hope that our players have actually benefited from this game and the commentaries.

By the way, there will be a test after class.

At this point, I don't know how much more I can add to my running commentary, so I'll be brief.

1. ENGLAND - Yeah, you lost London, but France has left himself in such a vulnerable position that you can't possibly be upset. Plus, you still got a build, which is fantastic. Holland is easily retaken, and Munich is easily defensible. Getting rid of that pesky Italian army in Livonia will also save you a headache in the long run. France has found himself sandwiched between you and Italy, and right now, you should be begging Italy to join your cause.

2. ITALY - Like hamster mentioned, I'm not sure how you still have Rumania, but at this point in the game, a Rumania for Greece trade is probably the best outcome you can hope for in your fight with Turkey. Much like you and France traded Tunis, taking Greece and losing Rumania puts you and Turkey at a deadlock, and unless England jumps in to intervene, which is unlikely, you've got Turkey well bottled up and can focus your efforts elsewhere. With Turkey taken care of, you should be drooling at the lack of southern defenses in France.

3. TURKEY - Please, for the love of all that is good in this world, take Rumania. Then sit back and consider whether it was really worth it. The answer is no. Feel free to sit back in your corner and enjoy Rumania, because its probably the last center you'll take. For all intents and purposes, your game is finished unless you and Italy can come to some kind of agreement and help each other out in the north.

4. FRANCE - Of all the positions a player can find themselves in during a game, the absolute worst is being expendable. You've grabbed London, which is a positive step, but your home centers are almost laughably unguarded. Again, let me emphasize what I said last turn - France, above all other countries, needs a balanced attack. A 2 army France in 1908 is ultimately doomed. At the end of the game, every player wants to turn themselves into an necessary piece of the endgame, whether than endgame is a draw or solo. A good player will put their units in positions that are so integral to the outcome of the game that no other player would dare disrupt that position. Right now, you're in the worst possible spot - stuck between two large powers who have no reason to keep you alive to see the end of the game.

England, if he chooses, can take this game to 16 or 17 centers. He'll probably lose Munich and won't be able to take Warsaw, but with good diplomacy he can convince Italy to cut you out of the draw. A 3 way draw is a much more desired outcome than a 4 way draw. Right now, Italy holds your destiny in his hands. By splitting up your forces for the stab, you've violated the most important of the seven principles of warfare - mass. Now, instead of one large combined fleet in the south or north, you have two smaller and inherently less effective forces that are both fighting losing battles. Your best (and only) hope right now is a mercy draw after Russia is killed.
Scoggle (234 D)
27 Nov 13 UTC
Bump
uclabb (589 D)
28 Nov 13 UTC
@jmo- That is France's only hope? I can think of one other.
mendax (321 D)
28 Nov 13 UTC
bump
RAZ000 (272 D(G))
28 Nov 13 UTC
Bump.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
28 Nov 13 UTC
Bump. I'll add commentary tomorrow.
Scoggle (234 D)
29 Nov 13 UTC
Bumpness
RAZ000 (272 D(G))
29 Nov 13 UTC
Bump

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redhouse1938 (429 D)
22 Jan 14 UTC
Syria convention in Montreux
I wonder if there is sufficient unity between outside powers to be able to influence the Syrian actors. This and more: discuss.
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krellin (80 DX)
21 Jan 14 UTC
Jobs for Dance Monkeys...
Hey all you fine, well-meaning Libtard Dance Monkeys and welfare bums (and you know who you are...). Have we got a deal for YOU! J-O-B-S...that's right, employment fully suited to your intellectual capacities. Step right up...

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/24506147/kentucky-bill-would-let-service-monkeys-help-paralyzed-people#axzz2r3wv8WwA
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krellin (80 DX)
21 Jan 14 UTC
"I love Bill clinton"
http://news.investors.com/Politics-Andrew-Malcolm/012014-686774-barbara-bush-bill-clinton-cspan.htm?ven=rss

Awesome -- there's a woman of integrity. I totally agree with her - have always thought Clinton would be an awesome guy to hang with...even if his politics sucked.
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tmchandler5 (100 D)
21 Jan 14 UTC
Need a few more, new Classic Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=134130
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