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MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
I missed a turn because of the server error.
Hi, This morning I could not log in.
"Apologies for the downtime, the server ran out of disk space. Our new disk will be configured this weekend. All games have been given extra time to compensate. Thanks for your patience."

As the result, one of my game missed a turn. Everyone else moved excepted me. What do I do now?
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MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
I will refuse to cancel the unpause.
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Same here
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Please email the mods with the gameID.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
You are a man among men, when your fellow players do not want to play with you again remind them of this, I'm sure it will help.
datapolitical (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
nicely executed Nigee. Very dry.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
@Gen

Can you email the mods with which of your games didn't process correctly?
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Yes after I cook dinner
MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Yeah, what is the mod's email?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
@Gen

Any chance you could spend the 10 seconds it takes to send an email now, so we can get this problem resolved quickly?
MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Alright, I will send an email. While the serve was down, I was very upset and look at other online Diplomacy, and this Webdiplomacy is the best. So, I am back here. LoL.
CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
I recommend deducting a point from yourself because your orders were not marked as ready before the deadline. Or did I get the wrong thread?
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Damn, sorry about that. We do have code which is supposed to detect when processing has failed for a certain length of time and pause it from then on, and I've never seen it fail before.
Ill look into how processing continued while the system was down for everyone else, and put some new measures into place to keep it from happening..
MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Alright, I sent the email with the time stamp when I log on, when the turn supposed to turn, and when I relogged on again.
MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
I checked two other online game sites, none of them have the game play-back feature like this site. It puzzles me why other folks don't do it. Once I have it here, I will refuse to play in any site without this feature. You got to see how the game progress and learn what's going on, step-by-step. It's a no brainer.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Yes, it is very nice being able to look through the turns. It does also consume a lot of database space though, perhaps that is why other sites do not do it.
MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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Ah hah, that's why the diskspace runs out. LoL.
The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
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What's the worst that could happen? It's not like the server is going to run out of disk space.
MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Let see, 40, 000 games are archived, each game had no more than 20 players and each player made no more than 20 turns. Total turns to be saved is: 40K * 20 * 20 = 16 Millions saved turns. Each turns need no more than 1k bytes to be saved (100 bytes for location, and 900 bytes for chat texts). Hmm...That is only 16M * 1k bytes = 16 Gig of hard drive.

A typical hard-drive is at the order of hundred of Gig. Is my calculation off?
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
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Sorry abge wife was yelling at me from the other room to get the burgers going, I apologize I didn't see your response.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
I had two games run ar exactly 7:45 (when the server returned?) Luckily I had orders in but was playing with them in one when it crashed and stabbed my ally cause I couldn't change the orders back before it ran. I think any game that had turns pending and should have run during the downtime auto executed before the time was added.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
@Draug

It's not exactly clear what happened with those games. Luckily, it was very few.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
@Meep

There are 5 turns per year and 20 years per turn, so it should be 40K*20*100.

Also, keep in mind along with chat, there are also PNG images. I do not think they are rerendered every time (although I could be wrong).
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
*20 years per game.

You are posting too frequently, please slow down.
You are posting too frequently, please slow down.

Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Well I think my two are OK. I explained it to my ally and hope he understands.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Meep you assume too.much in your assessment. With all the messages plua the forum and registration records and images from game files and PMs... You severely underestimate the MySQL requirements. Add in the OS and Apache and MySQL software and it starts to get up there. Finally, The site is hosted by a hosting company at a remote facility. It isn't sitting in Kestas' basement where he can just take a donation amd go buy a hard drive. He got what he could afford based on our donation levels (guess that extra $100 I sent was timed just right).
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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And before you whine, try fucking donating. I consider most on here ipstanding people even if they don't donate but someone who complains about down time.yet jasn't given a fucking cent or hour of his time is a fucking freeloader.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Oh amd each location on the board needs to know what unit is there and who owns the SC so more than a byte per location.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
My much more informed estimate is around 100 gig not counting.cached images and OS and forum and PMs and registration records.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
"And before you whine, try fucking donating. I consider most on here ipstanding people even if they don't donate but someone who complains about down time.yet jasn't given a fucking cent or hour of his time is a fucking freeloader"

Come on guys, don't supersize or KFC or Taco Bell yourself to death, US$100 is less than $2 a week, less than 30c a day or 1c an hour.

1c an hour =
24c a day
$1.68 a week
$87.36 a year

Is this game and this website worth 1c an hour to you?
If not then what is it worth?




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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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WebDip vs VDip
Not sure if this has already been posted here, but Gen Lee suggested a tournament between the best players here and the best players on VDip, including Classic games and variant games to give both factions some home ground to fight on.
Any of you up for it? We've already got a small team together and hopefully some of the other top VDip players will volunteer soon.
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twinsnation (503 D(B))
14 Apr 13 UTC
vite 2 needs one player
game starts in 5 minutes one more required
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
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Corée du Nord (That means North Korea)
A statement I heard today:

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blankflag (0 DX)
14 Apr 13 UTC
The Problem of Money
I just jumped from being in the 15th percentile of wealth to 5th because of some market shorting - that was because of luck mostly.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
14 Apr 13 UTC
MODS - Game stuck
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=111195

Loading order...
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
The Future of Tournaments webDip
As webDip grows, we need to relook at some of our old policies. The Mods have decided that it's time we rethink how Tournaments are done. I'm currently sitting in while most of the Mods are away, so I figured I'd get the community's input now, for them to consider when they get back.
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dannysparkes (397 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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V Web diplomacy ego's
When the site went down last night i signed up to the v web diplomacy site and checked the forum and one thread suggests that the players in the top forty are better than the top 400 here. What a bunch of tosh they are really up on themselves :(
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Halt (270 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
The Problem of Points
I just jumped from 15% to 5% because of a gunboat game - that was won because of luck mostly.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
13 Apr 13 UTC
Just came up with an opening for Italy I've never heard anyone about...
It probably has been discussed/done before but I don't think I ever heard/saw it...
Ven-Tyr, Rome-Nap, Nap-Ion.

It's not really offensive at all to Austria and it leaves open a load of possibilities... What do you think?
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
Circle Triangle Square
Aïkido concepts in the strategies of Diplomacy play.
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JoSo (291 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Has anyone seen a game glitch like this;
Newly built fleet in Moscow in World version of game, can not move to Ukraine or Arminia, can not support to hold anything, can support to move only units going to Black Sea. It's as if Black Sea is the only recognized adjacent area. by can not I mean drop down menus of locations only have Black Sea or are blank. Nothing currently in the Black Sea.
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Tagger (129 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
How do i set up a tournament?
How do i set up a tournament?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Thatcher's Funeral
Since the "Maggie Thatcher Dead at 87" thread has turned into a debate about the IRA specifically, I wanted to voice my opinion about a seperate issue relating to Mrs. Thatcher's death.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Maggie Thatcher Dead at 87
http://news.sky.com/story/1075292/margaret-thatcher-dies-after-stroke
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SYnapse (0 DX)
11 Apr 13 UTC
Art variant
You may only speak to other players through a piece of art of your choosing posted to the forum
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blankflag (0 DX)
13 Apr 13 UTC
adam gadahn, seriously?
as low as my credibility for the cia and corporate media are, how was adam gadahn on msnbc? american must be the joke of intelligent people everywhere at this point.
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Is this the new web dip record?
Is this the fastest solo on web dip ever?
gameID=114948 just finished,very interesting game,congrats to the winner!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
11 Apr 13 UTC
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Creating an EOG periodical
I got the thought that it may be nice to create a collection of some of the sites best EOGs. I figure that people could point me in the direction of some of their favourites. I could give them a quick edit (to conform their styles at least) and then release them periodically as a collection. Ultimately, it would be cool to have them stored on a navigatable website. This is just a thought though so all action, of course, is pension my laziness.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
11 Apr 13 UTC
Does anybody here really understand 'Quantum Theory'?
Do you?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
Mall shooting announce before hand on 4chan
Well, this is rather horrific...

http://gawker.com/5994549/the-virginia-mall-shooting-was-announced-in-advance-on-4chan
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
10 Apr 13 UTC
Want Turkish fleets in the Tyrrhenian Sea?
An object lesson in why the Crusher is a poor gunboat opening for Italy.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114834
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Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Apr 13 UTC
The non-variant series...
I am thinking of starting a new series (passworded) wherein the buy-in is irrelavent because the points at the end of the game go back to the original polayers and the winner/drawees get nothing extra. This would eliminate the PPSC vs. WTA arguments and their issues as it wouldn't matter (although it would still affect GR, nothing I can do about that).

Anyone up for trying this out?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
FACE TO FACE DIPLOMACY TOURNAMENT SIGNUP
Come on guys!
https://sites.google.com/site/boroughsdiplomacy/
Register at [email protected]
May 18-19
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datapolitical (100 D)
11 Apr 13 UTC
My favorite war is...
I would like to say WW2 because its the war I've read the most about. But tbh it's the Six Day War. A small country dominating a much larger enemy through superior tactics. How can a diplomacy player not love that!
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SYnapse (0 DX)
10 Apr 13 UTC
Huxley or Darwin?
Frans de Waal describes two conflicting ideas of evolutionary ethics, Darwin’s “evolution of ethics” and Huxley’s “veneer theory.”
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erist (228 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Press tactics
What tactics do you use in your press to sow dissent, confirm rumors, get other people to move the way you want them too, etc?
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datapolitical (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Google plus hangout game?
So who's interested in a public press live game on google plus? (obviously it'd be gunboat on the site, because all communication would be done over video chat). We could broadcast the game so observers could see the conversation in real time.

I'm thinking 10 minutes per turn, Sunday afternoon at around 2PM PST.
How does that sound?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
12 Apr 13 UTC
MASTERS TOURNAMENT
Weirsy and Couples, the two biggest beauties on tour.
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FlemGem (1297 D)
31 Mar 13 UTC
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Grant or Lee
Who was the better general? Discuss.....
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